Pakistan Naval Aviation - Updated

[Pakistani Fighter]

I think p3Cs are better then the ATRs in this regard.

They are not comparable. PN's next gen LRMPA program is going to replace P3Cs

 

[Nomad40]

How many is PN willing to buy?

 

[syed_yusuf]

How many is PN willing to buy?

Some of us have an idea but it must not shared

 

[Nomad40]

Some of us have an idea but it must not shared

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[GriffinsRule]

How many is PN willing to buy?

Will have to be a 1-1 replacement for the Orions, including the two we lost in the attack.

 

[Yasser76]

Will have to be a 1-1 replacement for the Orions, including the two we lost in the attack.

No, it does not have to be 1-1. 5 Modern platforms can have the availability and effect as 7 old ones.

 

[Syntage]

They are not comparable. PN's next gen LRMPA program is going to replace P3Cs

LRMPA must have enough weapon capacity as well.

 

[Blacklight]

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Merlin is used by Royal Navy to serve as an Early Warning Radar for their aircraft carrier groups, they are not utilized by traditional combat ships. And btw RN operates them because of their inability to launch large fixed-wing aircraft by their ACs, if they had the chance of operating anything closely resembling P-8 they would trash these helicopters in a heartbeat in favor of more capable, easier to maintain fixed-wing aircraft.

That being said, unlike RN, Pakistani Navy is littoral. There is simply no doctrine for a Merlin in PN when the combat mission you described above can be handled by a patrol aircraft taking off from the Pakistani heartland. They are simply more effective, as they offer better range and more carriage capacity.

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Well what the RN does not mean PN has to do as well. PN was interested in AW101, and once we get the frigates under order, it might still happen in limited numbers.

Btw, to call PN a littoral navy is an insult. It is not a true blue water navy, but certainly much better than a brown water navy.

Some interesting pics of Merlin Crowsnest with its ***km radar.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

It is not a true blue water navy, but certainly much better than a brown water navy.

I would say getting 4 Type 052Ds and some more frigates and corvettes than we can say its better than brown water navy

 

[Fighting Falcon 01]

I would say getting 4 Type 052Ds and some more frigates and corvettes than we can say its better than brown water navy

Too expensive to procure 052Ds why not enlarge MILGEM to carry 16 anti ship missiles and a 32 cell VLS which can be used for any missile type better radar sensor fusion and spam them we can have two or maybe 3 modified MILGEM in price of one 052D and that combined with effective ASW helo will be a big punch and the LRMPAs are already on the way .....

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Too expensive to procure 052Ds why not enlarge MILGEM to carry 16 anti ship missiles and a 32 cell VLS which can be used for any missile type better radar sensor fusion and spam them we can have two or maybe 3 modified MILGEM in price of one 052D and that combined with effective ASW helo will be a big punch and the LRMPAs are already on the way .....

Milgem can carry HHQ 9 LRSAM?

 

[Arsalan]

Too expensive to procure 052Ds why not enlarge MILGEM to carry 16 anti ship missiles and a 32 cell VLS which can be used for any missile type better radar sensor fusion and spam them we can have two or maybe 3 modified MILGEM in price of one 052D and that combined with effective ASW helo will be a big punch and the LRMPAs are already on the way .....

IF that was the requirement wont it make more sense to do this with the Type 54 we are getting from China?

Anyway, this is not the thread for this. Please stick to Naval Aviation discussion.

 

[Armchair]

What's wrong with the P-3Cs they aren't that old. Why such a premature replacement?

Also, I never understood why the Lynx were retired so early.

 

[syed_yusuf]

What's wrong with the P-3Cs they aren't that old. Why such a premature replacement?

Also, I never understood why the Lynx were retired so early.

Lynx - operating cost and unavalibility of spares. also lack of local expertise to maintain them. UK was not playing very friendly.

 

[Yasser76]

What's wrong with the P-3Cs they aren't that old. Why such a premature replacement?

Also, I never understood why the Lynx were retired so early.

P-3C Airframes are around 40 years old yaar.