Pakistan must grasp the moment

[Musings]

I was only having a little fun at the expense of PDFs “evidence man”. He is always asking for specific evidence for any statement that doesn’t agree with his narrow world view while never providing any sort of evidence for the outlandish things he says himself.

no single family or person is responsible for the problems we are facing currently. And no single person will solve it for us. The answer is not to murder people but to build up institutions, slowly over time. Nobody has the patience to do that.

You seem to have acquired a great amount of knowledge about a member in a few weeks?

I never suggested it was a single family - i meant the feudal types that stand up in parliament that were given the land - those that have embezzled - those that have committed crimes against the nation - i regard theft of the national coffers as one of the biggest crimes possible punishable by the ultimate sentence.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You seem to have acquired a great amount of knowledge about a member in a few weeks?

I never suggested it was a single family - i meant the feudal types that stand up in parliament that were given the land - those that have embezzled - those that have committed crimes against the nation - i regard theft of the national coffers as one of the biggest crimes possible punishable by the ultimate sentence.

He is a multiple ID indian false flagger who has been banned several times before. He has returned with a profile that includes a Pakistani flag. I have reported him.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Pakistan must grasp the moment

Pakistan history is scarred from day 1 when land reform should have been implemented – instead of creating feudal laws that on the whole have not had the interest of the nation at heart. They have created a huge void in our history resulting in the poor getting poorer and the rich simply not caring a damn apart from personal gain.

The Bhutto clan is a perfect example – acquiring 40,000 acres of Sindh to do as they please. Did the forefathers of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto work their fingers to the bone to gain this land??

I am no supporter of Imran Khan but the time was right for a change – Pakistan has been in a quagmire not being able to break the shackles of feudalism and raw corruption to the core. Any leader coming into power with the Sharif and Bhutto clan have actually treated the countries coffers as their personal slush fund – and no one had the balls to question or stop. Now there is potential for real change. Has he got what it takes – or will he slide round the challenges?

Pakistan needs change. Pakistan needs not to allow the culprits of the last 70 years to depart into “political asylum” – Pakistan must not allow them to sit in a jail.

Pakistan needs the rivers to flow of blood. Im afraid to remove the cancer – the nation has to rise and punish those responsible of systematic rape of the nations coffers.

I see Hassan Sharif and his brother Hussain have – amongst other assets 4 flats worth in the region of 200 million pounds. This is clearly property belonging to the state of Pakistan. We cannot wait for court orders – we cannot wait to follow judicial procedure – we cannot wait for extradition of these scoundrels in the normal way – it could take years. We need a leader to take control and grasp the moment. He may in the short term create enemies and uproar – but in the long term Pakistan WILL thrive.

Get them back – deal with them speedily and hang those responsible along with their henchmen – get it done and let it be an example and lesson for all that Pakistan has a new dawn arising.


Pakistan and the present international climate must be ready to change as the world nations start jostling for a new world order. No longer should Pakistan be the “yes sir” “we are at your service” nation as the USA desperately try to hold onto their superpower status. The world is a changing and its changing rapidly.

It used to take decades to see shifts in power changes – not anymore. Saudi Arabia has shown their intent for example in the last 72 hours with the loan repayment demand. They seem to have short memories and this stance will backfire guaranteed.

Pepe Escobar has been saying it for about 10 years now. China Russia Iran Turkey Pakistan will be automatically pushed together and its time to grasp the moment. Its time to have the creative willpower to make the leap forward to take advantage of these changes.

For China to achieve its goals – it needs a healthy Pakistan free from the shackles of the likes of Saudi and the USA. Pakistan leadership must grasp the moment and show the necessary drive and subtle political intellect to place Pakistan in pole position to control regional strategy.

India – self combusting in its policy selection – is clearly backfiring and will aid Pakistans policy changes – thank you professor Modi for your actions. Their policy of “bullying the Kashmiri people” will not pay dividends. Having hundreds of thousands of troops hasn’t isolated or broken he Kashmiri spirit – what makes you think you will do anything but stir more resolve and hatred – resulting in the biggest slap down in world history? Only a matter of time

We need patience. We have had 2 years of IK. Dont expect miracles overnight. His heart is in the right place – lets give him another term because it will need this time. Im prepared for the long haul. Hell i have waited long enough not to see Zardari or Sharif humiliating the nation – let this man at least try.

We have a lot to be grateful for. Our nation is fantastically placed to grasp a fulcrum position in the new world order. We must thank Jinnah and his supporters for giving us the opportunity - we have incredible potential ready to be leashed and need to pick our allies and friends carefully.
I may live in the UK but i live breathe and eat thinking of my fatherland and my heart is with the soil of the nation and hope one day Pakistan will grasp the moment....

Quality of institutions is going down and down. Who will read, who will write, who will lead..

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Quality of institutions is going down and down. Who will read, who will write, who will lead..

EXACTLY!

Pakistan either needs to drastically reform or rebuild all our institutions from scratch and strive for excellence. That will help the Pakistani cause immensely.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I was only having a little fun at the expense of PDFs “evidence man”. He is always asking for specific evidence for any statement that doesn’t agree with his narrow world view while never providing any sort of evidence for the outlandish things he says himself.

Khallas.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The key for Pakistan's progress is to drastically reform all our institutions and then to combine those reforms with the huge infrastructure projects happening all over Pakistan thanks to CPEC and other related programs, into a meaningful entity.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

This happened in 2018 but gives a small glimpse in to the potential of CPEC:

https://www.rferl.org/a/chinese-sil...h-6-percent-fastest-in-13-years/29195100.html

 

[Musings]

Quality of institutions is going down and down. Who will read, who will write, who will lead..

I agree with you but there comes a time when the nation should attempt to give a leader the support it needs - the time it needs - and the opportunity to restructure institutions. This cannot happen in haste. Rome - as they say - wasnt built in a day.

There are long term problems alongside short term. We must realise we are living through extraordinary times where the whole worlds economies have taken a nose dive with corona. where our exuberant neighbor is attempting to troll in Kashmir and then we have internal issues too. Im not saying an unlimited time but lets be patient with him.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I agree with you but there comes a time when the nation should attempt to give a leader the support it needs - the time it needs - and the opportunity to restructure institutions. This cannot happen in haste. Rome - as they say - wasnt built in a day.

There are long term problems alongside short term. We must realise we are living through extraordinary times where the whole worlds economies have taken a nose dive with corona. where our exuberant neighbor is attempting to troll in Kashmir and then we have internal issues too. Im not saying an unlimited time but lets be patient with him.

One way that Pakistan's economy can improve massively and quickly is to fully integrate the Pakistani economy into the Chinese economy. This will also result in Pakistan having world class infrastructure all over the country. The only problem with that is that our institutions will not fully develop or mature if this happens.

 

[Musings]

One way that Pakistan's economy can improve massively and quickly is to fully integrate the Pakistani economy into the Chinese economy. This will also result in Pakistan having world class infrastructure all over the country. The only problem with that is that our institutions will not fully develop or mature if this happens.

A few months ago there was a big presentation and visit by the Saudi - as usual the fanfare was made very loud and the relationship was made to be a ground breaker and mother of mothers when it comes to relations - look at the result of the statements released last week.
Pakistan must be prudent and attempt civil relations with all but must at the same time realize these short term fixes must be balanced up with long term interests. China without doubt has an avid interest in having a "strong " Pakistan which is mutually beneficial - Pakistan must also balance strengthening its institutions too and focus on itself. Something we can only do OURSELVES.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

As far as the sharif and zardari/bhutto families are concerned with the well being of Pakistan, there is only one solution:

Murder DEM Pussies

Reminds me of what Imran Khan said if any harm comes to him when he was planning his long march.

He said, "Agar meray saath kuch hogaya, to inke nokar bhi na chaddo."

Simply put, we cannot have change without blood. Sacrifice is required to gain anything substantial in this world.

You seem to have acquired a great amount of knowledge about a member in a few weeks?

Lol. He is a false flagger, so bitter at @PAKISTANFOREVER

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

A few months ago there was a big presentation and visit by the Saudi - as usual the fanfare was made very loud and the relationship was made to be a ground breaker and mother of mothers when it comes to relations - look at the result of the statements released last week.
Pakistan must be prudent and attempt civil relations with all but must at the same time realize these short term fixes must be balanced up with long term interests. China without doubt has an avid interest in having a "strong " Pakistan which is mutually beneficial - Pakistan must also balance strengthening its institutions too and focus on itself. Something we can only do OURSELVES.

EXACTLY! We need to continue our work with China but also improve and strengthen ourselves and our institutions as well. It will be a win win for all concerned. I hope we seize this opportunity.

 

[Musings]

Lol. He is a false flagger, so bitter at @PAKISTANFOREVER

I find the obsession incredible. I cant imagine a Pakistani going onto an India forum brandishing Indian flags so he or she could troll? Its beyond my scopes...... then his father comes along encouraging him - thanking him - have nothing substantial to say but a 1 word post to try to get under @PAKISTANFOREVER skin?

Lets focus on releasing the incredible potential spirit and passion the Pakistan people have. Let us try to grab the moments coming our way.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Reminds me of what Imran Khan said if any harm comes to him when he was planning his long march.

He said, "Agar meray saath kuch hogaya, to inke nokar bhi na chaddo."

Simply put, we cannot have change without blood. Sacrifice is required to gain anything substantial in this world.



Lol. He is a false flagger, so bitter at @PAKISTANFOREVER

There definitely needs to be sacrifices for Pakistan by our ruling elite. We also need to neuter and make the sharif and bhutto/zardari families sterile and powerless. Much like what the Iranians have done to the former Iranian Royal family the Raza Pahlavis.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Pakistan must grasp the moment

Pakistan history is scarred from day 1 when land reform should have been implemented – instead of creating feudal laws that on the whole have not had the interest of the nation at heart. They have created a huge void in our history resulting in the poor getting poorer and the rich simply not caring a damn apart from personal gain.

The Bhutto clan is a perfect example – acquiring 40,000 acres of Sindh to do as they please. Did the forefathers of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto work their fingers to the bone to gain this land??

I am no supporter of Imran Khan but the time was right for a change – Pakistan has been in a quagmire not being able to break the shackles of feudalism and raw corruption to the core. Any leader coming into power with the Sharif and Bhutto clan have actually treated the countries coffers as their personal slush fund – and no one had the balls to question or stop. Now there is potential for real change. Has he got what it takes – or will he slide round the challenges?

Pakistan needs change. Pakistan needs not to allow the culprits of the last 70 years to depart into “political asylum” – Pakistan must not allow them to sit in a jail.

Pakistan needs the rivers to flow of blood. Im afraid to remove the cancer – the nation has to rise and punish those responsible of systematic rape of the nations coffers.

I see Hassan Sharif and his brother Hussain have – amongst other assets 4 flats worth in the region of 200 million pounds. This is clearly property belonging to the state of Pakistan. We cannot wait for court orders – we cannot wait to follow judicial procedure – we cannot wait for extradition of these scoundrels in the normal way – it could take years. We need a leader to take control and grasp the moment. He may in the short term create enemies and uproar – but in the long term Pakistan WILL thrive.

Get them back – deal with them speedily and hang those responsible along with their henchmen – get it done and let it be an example and lesson for all that Pakistan has a new dawn arising.


Pakistan and the present international climate must be ready to change as the world nations start jostling for a new world order. No longer should Pakistan be the “yes sir” “we are at your service” nation as the USA desperately try to hold onto their superpower status. The world is a changing and its changing rapidly.

It used to take decades to see shifts in power changes – not anymore. Saudi Arabia has shown their intent for example in the last 72 hours with the loan repayment demand. They seem to have short memories and this stance will backfire guaranteed.

Pepe Escobar has been saying it for about 10 years now. China Russia Iran Turkey Pakistan will be automatically pushed together and its time to grasp the moment. Its time to have the creative willpower to make the leap forward to take advantage of these changes.

For China to achieve its goals – it needs a healthy Pakistan free from the shackles of the likes of Saudi and the USA. Pakistan leadership must grasp the moment and show the necessary drive and subtle political intellect to place Pakistan in pole position to control regional strategy.

India – self combusting in its policy selection – is clearly backfiring and will aid Pakistans policy changes – thank you professor Modi for your actions. Their policy of “bullying the Kashmiri people” will not pay dividends. Having hundreds of thousands of troops hasn’t isolated or broken he Kashmiri spirit – what makes you think you will do anything but stir more resolve and hatred – resulting in the biggest slap down in world history? Only a matter of time

We need patience. We have had 2 years of IK. Dont expect miracles overnight. His heart is in the right place – lets give him another term because it will need this time. Im prepared for the long haul. Hell i have waited long enough not to see Zardari or Sharif humiliating the nation – let this man at least try.

We have a lot to be grateful for. Our nation is fantastically placed to grasp a fulcrum position in the new world order. We must thank Jinnah and his supporters for giving us the opportunity - we have incredible potential ready to be leashed and need to pick our allies and friends carefully.
I may live in the UK but i live breathe and eat thinking of my fatherland and my heart is with the soil of the nation and hope one day Pakistan will grasp the moment....

I am glad you dealt with the issue of feudalism, as I believe it is at the heart of the whole issue.

We are trying to become a modern power, while having a system like Czarist Russia, Medieval Japan, and Ottoman Turkey.

Dr. Israr Ahmad seems to be one of the only Islamic leaders and scholars to have dealt with the feudal issue.