Pakistan lost $50 million from airspace restrictions: minister

[Nilgiri]

@Nilgiri The 100/50 million dollar equation is nonsense. And I don't have to pore over the maths for that. Are we supposed to believe that Indian air traffic volume is only twice bigger then Pakistan? Are we supposed to believe that Bangkok, Kaula Lumpur and Sydney are traffic hubs for Pakistan outbound flights?

I'm just going by the numbers that have been reported by the respective govts. The registered airlines of both countries are publicly listed I assume, so people can do end of year analysis there too.

A huge amount of traffic in India is domestic compared to Pakistan and also gulf oriented....not to mention lot more cities spaced far away so were completely unaffected (Bombay, Calcutta, Chennai, Bangalore, Hyderabad etc).....Delhi (IGI) was the only one with international (westbound) flight diversions. None were cancelled as far as I know....so the extra burn time/operating costs came to 100 million in the period.

But if you cancel a flight altogether and can't run it....that adds lot more cost in the end....because the plane is literally sitting there not earning money (rather than taking a 10% - 20% "hit" per flight...you effectively lose 100% of the flight revenue). How much of that kind of thing impacted PIA, someone else will have to analyse.

 

[xyxmt]

Why did Pakistan open the airspace?

India can still refuse to use these enemy air spaces, why would Indian planes use Pakistani air space? India should commit to their words of inflicting maximum damage to Pakistan by not flying thru Pakistan and cause us $50 million a year losses...do that for few years and Pakistan will come begging

 

[Serious Carrey]

India can still refuse to use these enemy air spaces, why would Indian planes use Pakistani air space? India should commit to their words of inflicting maximum damage to Pakistan by not flying thru Pakistan and cause us $50 million a year losses...do that for few years and Pakistan will come begging

India use Pakistani airspace because it saves time and money. India can find other ways to inflict damage to Pakistan.

 

[war&peace]

Indian traffic volume is around 8 times more. Flights from New Delhi and other central and north-western airports of India were severely affected. Most of A320s and B737s of Indian airlines that could fly direct from those north/western Indian airports could directly fly over Pak airspace without the need for refuelling but after the ban, they needed refuelling which increases the time of travel and costs tremendously since each airport charges a hefty fees.

 

[xyxmt]

India use Pakistani airspace because it saves time and money. India can find other ways to inflict damage to Pakistan.

like Pulwama

 

[jericho]

Pakistan based ISI asset bombed and killed indian 40+ soldiers and injured almost 100 in one strike.

If this is referring to Pulwama attack, then shame on you because Pakistan has denied it and you are giving bad name to Pak by implying it is behind whatever happened there

 

[ziaulislam]

Lol give me one source that tells India accepted this ridiculous demand ,who are u to dictate that we move our aircrafts from FOBs , airspace was closed for 2 years from 2002 to 2004 between the countries , so its not a much problem

Zee news and tribune.com

 

[MilSpec]

To Global Aviation Industry

Try again for India: https://www.livemint.com/news/india...8-crore-to-indian-airlines-1562254701059.html

@MilSpec

meh, as one user mentioned; this is a win for Pakistan.

I had envisaged this long time ago when Pakistan had denied Indian land access to Afghanistan, that one day it will use its airspace as an embargo tool.

The OP mentions 8 billion PKR, but in the next posts the Pakistani members do not seem to ind the losses, So it's all good.

Losses to Indian operators are losses nevertheless tragic and we need to ensure there is provisioning for such situations going forward as this will probably happen quite often again.

 

[313ghazi]

Why did Pakistan open the airspace?

To disarm Trump who would have bought it up as a negociating point. We were never going to keep it closed forever. This airspace opening - the arrest of Hafiz Saeed (yet again) - all designed to distrupt the pre-planned Trump narrative for the IK visit. This way we get to set the agenda.

 

[hussain0216]

To disarm Trump who would have bought it up as a negociating point. We were never going to keep it closed forever. This airspace opening - the arrest of Hafiz Saeed (yet again) - all designed to distrupt the pre-planned Trump narrative for the IK visit. This way we get to set the agenda.

Indians were crying everywhere and its a easy move for us...

Alot to discuss with the U.S and we needed to take out distractions

 

[xyxmt]

Yet another blow to Pakistan by RSS Modi, forcing Pakistan to close their air space and loosing $50 million.

 

[American Pakistani]

Why did Pakistan open the airspace?

Because your govt was begging.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Samjh lo Pakistan ne sadqa diya.

 

[KhanBaba2]

@Nilgiri The 100/50 million dollar equation is nonsense. And I don't have to pore over the maths for that. Are we supposed to believe that Indian air traffic volume is only twice bigger then Pakistan? Are we supposed to believe that Bangkok, Kaula Lumpur and Sydney are traffic hubs for Pakistan outbound flights?

Or that Europe, Middle East, America are not Indian hubs for outbound flights? Te figure quoted do not even hold water at the minimal testing.

Excuses were running thin. Don't forget lot of flights are by western airlines. PMIK is off to USA. And it had been notified month ago that flights would be re-opened in July as the original date had passed.

Flights from Delhi would be affected. Other major hubs would be Mumbai, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Pune will not be. Even Ahmedabad or Kolkata will not have a significant difference.

 

[Riz]

Why did Pakistan open the airspace?

We just wana check if u have enough ghairat (honor) & self respect to deny using pak airspace & will stop pumping money to pakistan which we will use to buy weapons...
India stopped playing cricket hockey with pak.. India banned pak singers actors.. Just because they are earning from india.. Lol
Now they will pay Pakistan...why?