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Cash-strapped PIA likely to ground more aircraft

By converting 8 bn to 8 crores? Yes you won.


Good so you accept Reuters story that $50m was lost ?….


It is ok Reuters also busted you on f-16 story ..


Yes, saw you trapped in one.

You must be some sort of special idiot indian

You don’t notice because you are in a hurry to post a counter.

I post back for cheap jokes…ie free entertainment


facts where established from day one, it makes no difference what you say ..
 
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Good so you accept Reuters story that $50m was lost ?….
Nope. Reuters quotes your minister. Your ministers are of doubtful capabilities. If these minsters were so good with numbers, your economy wouldn’t be in this mess.
Your concerned departments had quoted a loss of PKR 2.5 billion till 12 March. And then your minister pulled out PKR 8 billion out of his hat for losses till 18 Jul.
I would rather believe a source that explains the entire thing in simple calculation.
Here are the numbers, that give actual calculations -

Here are the numbers till 12 March-
 
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Nope. Reuters quotes your minister. Your ministers are of doubtful capabilities. If these minsters were so good with numbers, your economy wouldn’t be in this mess.
Your concerned departments had quoted a loss of PKR 2.5 billion till 12 March. And then your minister pulled out PKR 8 billion out of his hat for losses till 18 Jul.
I would rather believe a source that explains the entire thing in simple calculation.
Here are the numbers, that give actual calculations -

Here are the numbers till 12 March-



Translation : faced with hard facts and logic I will resort to posting more stupid irrelevant information in a vain attempt to cover my global and a very public humiliation.




Seriously you really need to stop wearing pink underwear…. It stops intelligent thinking …
 
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. If these minsters were so good with numbers, your economy wouldn’t be in this mess.


you know even if one has the most rudimentary of maths skill one can easily decipher who made the bulk of the losses ...


but not you of course as you have no brain only 2 small balls that explode prematurely from time to time.



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you know even if one has the most rudimentary of maths skill one can easily decipher who made the bulk of the losses ...
Please don’t torture your brain by doing math. If it was only the losses to the airlines, I would have accepted your logic. Your losses were more due to losses to CAA also.

I have given a link that has the math. For once just have a look at it. Everything is explained in easy math (non MES).
 
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And you have @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE FOOL OF THE NIGHT claiming PIA will “resume flights to Europe soon”. Whenever you hear a pedowari say the word “soon” it means never.

Imagine an airline not flying daily to London, a city with almost 100,000 Pakistanis….stopping service to New York, a city with almost 90,000 Pakistanis in the city alone…almost close to 100,000 in the NY/NJ area.

How does PIA not fly to Leeds-Bradford or Manchester daily?

The only reason PIA is still functioning is literally because the government/junta makes foreign airlines pay ridiculous landing fees….Infact I read somewhere landing at Pakistan’s airports is among the most expensive in the world or in Asia…I forgot.

It’s not a favouring environment for foreign airlines. The Gulf airlines struck a deal with which is why you see them flying into every international airport in Pakistan.

Foreign airlines pulling out of Pakistan was never about “safety”…that’s only what they said to save face. The reality was, airlines couldn’t compete with PIA or the Gulf carriers….as Virgin Atlantic and Lufthansa found out. Somehow BA is hanging on to Islamabad, but they pulled out of Lahore…how?

1.5 million Pakistanis in the UK…

Just ridiculous.
Hence you will see any local buyer ready to jump in to take and restructure PIA if govt takes son laons and let them fire people


That's what should happen immediately
But who will do it..army can abduct women and children but won't sell pia

Politicans don't like the back lash from people who think these are Greta national assets
 
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Hence you will see any local buyer ready to jump in to take and restructure PIA if govt takes son laons and let them fire people


That's what should happen immediately
But who will do it..army can abduct women and children but won't sell pia

Politicans don't like the back lash from people who think these are Greta national assets
I have a better idea.

Sell all the planes one by one. Until you’re left with none.

Flight catering services can open on Kemari and they can sell packaged foods and Grab Foods.
 
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I have a better idea.

Sell all the planes one by one. Until you’re left with none.

Flight catering services can open on Kemari and they can sell packaged foods and Grab Foods.
And let foreign entities take more money out of Pakistan in form of remittances
 
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Cash-strapped PIA likely to ground more aircraft

Khaleeq Kiani Published September 11, 2023 Updated about 2 hours ag

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• Boeing, Airbus on verge of discontinuing spare parts supply
• Restructuring plan at crossroads as govt weighs financial rescue
• Ministry seeks Rs23bn to keep airline afloat
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has resorted to ground several aircraft as it struggles to secure funds to maintain its operations for the next few months, during which time its core functions and non-core assets are expected to be put up for sale.
The Ministry of Aviation issued a stern warning last week, telling the federal government that PIA currently grapples with a severe cash flow crisis, leading to arrears with creditors, aircraft lessors, fuel suppliers, insurers, international and domestic airport operators, and even the International Air Transport Association (IATA).
Consequently, the national flag carrier has been compelled to ground five of its 13 leased aircraft, with the possibility of four more facing a similar fate, the ministry said.
Adding to the mounting concerns, the Ministry of Aviation disclosed that Boeing and Airbus are on the verge of discontinuing the supply of spare parts by mid-September. Considering these challenges, the ministry has requested an immediate cash injection of Rs23 billion, and the suspension of duties, taxes and service charges to domestic agencies. However, this request comes without the presentation of a concrete and viable business plan.



The ministry cautioned that the PIA’s restructuring is a complex process that is expected to span around eight months. It also emphasised that for the divestment of PIA’s shares to yield a fair value, the airline must remain operational throughout all stages of restructuring.
Regrettably, PIA serves only a fraction of the country’s population, accounting for less than 3pc of citizens using air travel while consuming significant public funds. This stands in stark contrast to the highly criticised and loss-making power companies that cater to nearly 80pc of the population with electricity.
The government of Pakistan holds a 92pc share in PIA, which was once known for its slogan “Great People to Fly With”. However, since the late 1990s, the airline has faced mounting losses, attributed to competition from emerging regional airlines, a lack of entrepreneurship, external influences, internal mismanagement, and insufficient funding for fleet expansion, as highlighted by the Aviation Division.
To cope with its financial losses, PIA accumulated significant debt, which has now reached unmanageable levels. As of Dec 31, 2022, PIA’s debt and liabilities stood at Rs743bn — five times more than the total value of its assets, the Aviation Ministry said, adding that its total losses for the last financial year (2022-23) stood at Rs86.5bn, out of which Rs11bn were operational losses.
“If the situation continues as such, PIA’s debt and liabilities will rise to Rs1,977bn and its annual losses will rise to Rs259bn per annum by 2030,” it put on record, warning that Rs383bn of the current debt liability of PIA stood underwritten by the government of Pakistan and being 92pc owner, the responsibility for the remaining payables also ultimately rested with it.
Several attempts were made in the last decade or so to make PIA sustainable. These attempts followed two basic approaches. The first approach mainly focused on turning the PIA around by cutting down cost, improving internal management and increasing fleet size with capital investment from the government. However, several attempts of this nature failed to make any headway.
The second approach focused on financial, legal, operational, commercial and human resources restructuring of PIA to clean its balance sheet, aiming to attract private investment through divesting government shares. This approach was identified first in the Dubai Islamic Bank Consortium Report of 2017 that was engaged by the Privatisation Commission and later in Dr Ishrat Hussain Report on PIA Restructuring Plan in 2020.
PIA also carried out a study to formulate a sound business plan to make it profitable by engaging IATA, which also recommended a similar approach while indicating a capital injection of $3.5bn over a period of five years to enhance fleet size from 29 aircraft in 2021 to 49 in 2026. However, none of these reports could be implemented for various reasons.
In view of the continued deterioration of the financial condition of PIA, in June 2023, it was decided to restructure PIA broadly on the lines recommended by the Dubai Islamic Bank Consortium Report. To steer this process, a committee under the then finance minister was constituted to steer and guide the restructuring effort.
Under the directives of this committee, the PIA’s board of directors approved a plan on July 25 this year to restructure PIA in light of the aforesaid report by incorporating a new holding company to retain legacy loans, non-aviation assets and existing PIACL subsidiaries (PIA-IL, Skyrooms Limited, and Saber Travel Network), with PIACL as its wholly owned subsidiary retaining aviation assets and relating liabilities.
Another major hurdle in that direction has also been removed since then. The previous provisions of PIACL Act, 2016 did not allow the transfer of management control and more than 49pc shares of PIACL to a private entity and hence were not conducive for attracting private investment. However, an amendment act was promulgated on Aug 12 and these restrictions have now been removed and PIACL was included in the privatisation list of the Privatisation Commission with the approval of the cabinet on Aug 7.
The restructuring plan is yet to be approved by the government. The Aviation Division last week asked the government to inject Rs23bn funds to cover the markup payment, suspend Rs1.3bn and Rs700m to the FBR and the Civil Aviation Authority, respectively, and defer loans and markup till restructuring is complete in about eight months.
This did not impress Caretaker Finance Minister Dr Shamshad Akhtar at the back-to-back meetings of the ECC and the Cabinet Committee on Privatisation.
The two committees then decided to form a separate panel to assess PIA’s restructuring plan and directed the finance ministry and the State Bank of Pakistan to support the airline to tackle its financial challenges after a concrete plan of restructuring had been finalised.
Published in Dawn, September 11th, 2023
We should buy the Chinese COMAC regional jet airliners.
 
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They are not on par with Boeing or Airbus and also they busy on their local order
How do you know, are you some sort of expert? No you are not.

Besides I have seen Youtube videos of COMAC jet airliners in China flying. They are an alternatives to Boeing and AirBus.
 
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