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Proof of the involvement of regular Pakistani soldiers in the 1999 Kargil war has come from an institution that has been for years denying its role in the hostilities with India — the Pakistan Army.

Eleven years after the Kargil war, the Pakistan Army has quietly included the names of 453 soldiers and officers who were killed during the conflict on its website.

The 453 Pakistani soldiers are shown as killed in the Batalik-Kargil sector in Jammu and Kashmir.

The names of those who died in Kargil are tucked away in a list of thousands of personnel killed while on duty posted in the “Shuhada's Corner” (Martyrs Corner) of the website.
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The very first page of the long list includes the names of Captain Karnal Sher and Havildar Lalak Jan, who were both killed on July 7, 1999 in Kargil and awarded Pakistan's highest military award, the Nishan-e-Haider. Several others were posthumously given other gallantry awards like the Tamgha-e-Jurat (Medal of Courage).

The Army also reveals the codename given to the operation to occupy strategic mountains and heights on the Indian side of the LoC — “Operation Koh-e-Paima” or Mountain of Resolve. In some cases, the campaign is also referred to as “Operation Kargil”.

A majority of those who died in Kargil were soldiers from the Northern Light Infantry, a formation that was made a regular regiment of the Pakistan Army because of its performance in the 1999 conflict. It was earlier a paramilitary force formed by the amalgamation of several militias from the Northern Areas or Gilgit-Baltistan.

Several causes are cited for those who died in Kargil — “killed in action”, “enemy action”, “enemy firing”, “enemy artillery shelling” and even “road accident”. The list gives the name, rank, unit, and location and nature of death of each casualty.

During the Kargil conflict and in subsequent years, the Pakistan Army insisted that none of its regular soldiers were involved in the hostilities. This stance continued despite the Indian Army capturing several serving soldiers. The Pakistan Army never issued an official list of its casualties.

The first admission of the Pakistan Army's involvement in the conflict came from the former Army chief and President Pervez Musharraf, who revealed in his 2006 memoir In The Line Of Fire that regular soldiers had fought in Kargil.

General Musharraf's book said 357 troops were killed and over 660 injured but political parties have claimed that thousands of soldiers and insurgents died in the conflict.

The opposition PML-N put the death toll at 3,000 and nearly 200 Pakistani casualties were buried on the Indian side.
http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/detailed_news.asp?date1=11/19/2010&id=11
 
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Should hopefully put an end to the nonsensical claims of thousands of Pakistani soldiers killed. IIRC, even some Indian generals had estimated Pakistani casualties along these numbers.

This should answer your question/assertion.

The list is not correct. I just checked the name of one of my Friends brother who died during the war and it is not there.
 
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Should hopefully put an end to the nonsensical claims of thousands of Pakistani soldiers killed. IIRC, even some Indian generals had estimated Pakistani casualties along these numbers.

Just read the comment after yours and you'll realise who's government is bent upon spreading BS propaganda. Honour your soldiers, Pakistan. They gave up their lives for literally NOTHING at the crack of a whip.
 
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This should answer your question/assertion.

Just read the comment after yours and you'll realise who's government is bent upon spreading BS propaganda. Honour your soldiers, Pakistan. They gave up their lives for literally NOTHING at the crack of a whip.
The only people spreading BS propaganda, and clinging to straws to justify that propaganda are you guys.

How pathetic can Indian attempts to justify absurd casualty figures, that even some Indian generals don't subscribe to get!
One individual makes a comment about the brother of a friend not being on the list, and somehow that is twisted into 'aha, that must mean thousands of casualties'. He isn't even a direct source, and his claim is unverified, not to mention that even if his claim is accurate, that could be an inadvertant ommission in the records.

No, instead of any logical arguments, you Indians with your brainwashed, propaganda poisoned mindsets jump to the typical ' bash Pakistan' mode.

Honoring our martyrs and how we do that is our job - Indians should focus on ending their illegal occupation and subjugation of Kashmir and the Kashmiri people.

I understand that of late wikileaks has debunked a lot of Indian propaganda about ISI involvement in Mumbai and how the ' world believes that ISI/PA was involved', as well as exposing fdirect Afghan sheltering of Baluchistan terrorists, but that is not an excuse for yet more intellectually disingenuous arguments and speculation by Indians, along the lines of that seen on this thread on the basis of one unsubstantiated comment.
 
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The list is not correct. I just checked the name of one of my Friends brother whod died during the war and it is not there.

That is why the list was not produced for so long. Pakistan cannot afford to admit the then Prime Minister's assertion about the number of casualties.

But anyway, let bygones be bygones. Salutations to all those who sacrificed (excepting those who are guilty of of mutilating and torturing Indian POWs).
 
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The list is not correct. I just checked the name of one of my Friends brother whod died during the war and it is not there.
So if one name is missing the list in incorrect?

Just read the comment after yours and you'll realise who's government is bent upon spreading BS propaganda. Honour your soldiers, Pakistan. They gave up their lives for literally NOTHING at the crack of a whip.
We don't need to hold parades to celebrate those who made the ultimate sacrifice at Kargil. Their families, units and the Pakistani nation realize that their country needed them to operate in this capacity. This was not the first time and in the future too, our military would need to make such sacrifices and not be recognized openly.
 
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So if one name is missing the list in incorrect?


We don't need to hold parades to celebrate those who made the ultimate sacrifice at Kargil. Their families, units and the Pakistani nation realize that their country needed them to operate in this capacity. This was not the first time and in the future too, our military would need to make such sacrifices and not be recognized openly.

You are 9 years too late to this news
 
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