Pakistan likely to legalise 2.8 million Bengalis living there

[Desert Fox]

@django @Desert Fox

WTF...

Can expect anything better from this spineless government.

Bring back our Urdu speakers and send these illegals back to their shonar Bangla.

What is the country coming too

Traitors traitors everywhere.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

It's cool.

 

[Desert Fox]

They can't control their excitement and have to let the world know. In earlier times this invasion would be understood as an act of war.

Jab ghaddar mulk per hakumat ker rhe hon tho yehi kuch ho ga.

Wile that Hasina lady continues to bad mouth Pakistan here we are taking in her people.

 

[Bilal9]

Jab ghaddar mulk per hakumat ker rhe hon tho yehi kuch ho ga.

Wile that Hasina lady continues to bad mouth Pakistan here we are taking in her people.

I don't think these people are the favorites of Hasina. These are most probably former Razakar and Al-Badr collaborators with the Pakistani Army (and their progeny) who'd probably get jailed or even killed once they got back to Bangladesh.

We just took in one million Rohinga and there were 800,000 from the last wave. Some of them are even committing petty crimes. Sh*t happens. Be cool with it.

 

[Nilgiri]

These are most probably former Razakar and Al-Badr collaborators with the Pakistani Army (and their progeny) who'd probably get jailed or even killed once they got back to Bangladesh.

That's your decision and action to carry out. If you want to genocide them, go ahead, you are always after some moniker of "3 million" blah blah anyway to disguise the original Mir Zafar style betrayal (to what you literally chose to sign up for).

The BD illegals that have swamped in after the 1971 war is over are not Pakistan's responsibility....and should be repatriated. Pakistan govt giving up on this is not good sign and sets a bad precedent. Pakistan's people should not take this lying down.

We just took in one million Rohinga and there were 800,000 from the last wave. Some of them are even committing petty crimes. Sh*t happens. Be cool with it.

Those are also largely your illegals (+ "progeny" as you so nicely put it). MM govt (massively backed by its people regarding this action) just isnt being a cuck on the issue like Pakistan govt apparently chose to now (but not directly equivalent since Pakistan does not have a border with Bangladesh and relations with India stay quite bad and even India is not really pushing for repatriation of BD illegals by force yet). But still bad decision by Pakistan govt, I am disappointed....but I guess precedence is also there with the Afghan refugees....but still.

Hopefully India choses the former strategy (of MM) than latter when time is right. Sick of your BD antics. You export illegals and then claim you have lower population growth and "better" development (manipulating whatever else needed on paper to fit the narrative) blah blah. I will do a write up on it (with facts + evidence) in the BBS thread pending time:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/repository-for-bd-statistics-bbs-quality-credibility.525379/

 

[Bilal9]

Weird

You know I was looking for a scholarship recently

40 least developed countries get it

Afghanistan and Bangladesh are on the list

Pakistan isn't

https://data.worldbank.org/region/least-developed-countries:-un-classification

Here's the link

Well this is outrageous! How dare they?!? I'll be sure to convey this concern to the corrupt officials in Bangladesh.

Seriously though - Bangladesh is still officially known as LDC for the European market which gives it special trading status. Maybe Pakistan was too hasty to get out of LDC status. Would've been handy for trade benefit.

 

[truthseer]

Can expect anything better from this spineless government.

Bring back our Urdu speakers and send these illegals back to their shonar Bangla.

Yar, some of these Bengalis chose to come back and supported Pakistan, don't lump them with the Hasina party

Well this is outrageous! How dare they?!? I'll be sure to convey this concern to the corrupt officials in Bangladesh.

Seriously though - Bangladesh is still officially known as LDC for the European market which gives it special trading status. Maybe Pakistan was too hasty to get out of LDC status. Would've been handy for trade benefit.

We are not a Least Developed Country.

 

[Nilgiri]

Maybe Pakistan was too hasty to get out of LDC status.

Pakistan was never a LDC and its not up to a country anyway whether to be classified as such...there is a well defined process (in UN HDRO) to be included and then to graduate over time.

 

[Bilal9]

We are not a Least Developed Country.

I understand. Maybe Pakistan never was.

But those of us without a clue could be forgiven for believing that Bangladesh is doing as well as Pakistan in almost all financial and HDI indicators.

Maybe not better in every sphere - but roughly similar. At least for now.

With 'LDC' Moniker or without.

As of now 1 Euro = 122.3588 Pakistan Rupee = 93.8669 Bangladesh Taka

When I bring the above up some Pakistanis respond quite emotionally because it seems that it goes counter to what they've been taught and have believed their whole life.

Which I don't get either...

https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/bangladesh/pakistan

Just to be fair in HDI terms, here are the numbers for Pakistan and Bangladesh from the UN websites for each country,

http://hdr.undp.org/en/countries/profiles/PAK
http://hdr.undp.org/en/countries/profiles/BGD

For Bangladesh,

Health
Life expectancy at birth (years)
72.0
Education
Expected years of schooling (years)
10.2
Income/Composition of Resources
Gross national income (GNI) per capita (2011 PPP$)
3,341
Inequality
Inequality-adjusted HDI (IHDI)
0.412
Gender
Gender Development Index (GDI)
0.927
Poverty
Multidimensional Poverty Index (MPI)
0.188
Work, employment and vulnerability
Employment to population ratio (% ages 15 and older)
59.4
Human Security
Homicide rate (per 100,000 people)
2.8
Trade and Financial Flows
Exports and imports (% of GDP)
42.1
Mobility and Communication
Internet users (% of population)
14.4
Environmental sustainability
Carbon dioxide emissions per capita (tonnes)
0.4
Demography
Population, total (millions)
161.0

For Pakistan,

Health
Life expectancy at birth (years)
66.4
Education
Expected years of schooling (years)
8.1
Income/Composition of Resources
Gross national income (GNI) per capita (2011 PPP$)
5,031
Inequality
Inequality-adjusted HDI (IHDI)
0.380
Gender
Gender Development Index (GDI)
0.741
Poverty
Multidimensional Poverty Index (MPI)
0.237
Work, employment and vulnerability
Employment to population ratio (% ages 15 and older)
51.0
Human Security
Homicide rate (per 100,000 people)
7.8
Trade and Financial Flows
Exports and imports (% of GDP)
28.1
Mobility and Communication
Internet users (% of population)
18.0
Environmental sustainability
Carbon dioxide emissions per capita (tonnes)
0.8
Demography
Population, total (millions)
188.9

 

[Nilgiri]

As of now 1 Euro = 122.3588 Pakistan Rupee = 93.8669 Bangladesh Taka

1 Euro equals how many Japanese Yen? What kind of logic is taught in BD these days? Not very good I'm afraid.

Just to be fair in HDI terms, here are the numbers for Pakistan and Bangladesh from the UN websites for each country,

Just to be fair, one should look up the corruption perception index of countries before we compared their data, so we have their credibility as well.

Bangladesh is notoriously bad, much worse than Pakistans:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/repository-for-bd-statistics-bbs-quality-credibility.525379/

BBS has limited capacity to produce many of these statistics in accordance with relevant international standards and good practices.

@truthseer if you could quote all of this in your reply (coz bilal i think has me on ignore because of the bitter memories of several thrashings).

 

[Bilal9]

East overtakes West
Bangladesh’s GDP per person is now higher than Pakistan’s
At market exchanges rates, at least

Print edition | Asia
Sep 7th 2017

WHEN Bangladesh won independence from Pakistan in 1971, it was much poorer than the country it left. Industry accounted for only 6-7% of its GDP, compared with over 20% in Pakistan. The battle for independence had killed or displaced millions, damaged roads and railways, and severed ties with Pakistan’s bankers and industrialists (including the owner of one of the world’s biggest jute mills). Even before the war, Bangladesh had been trampled by another apocalyptic horseman: a cyclone killed hundreds of thousands in 1970. The country’s independence leader, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, complained that West Pakistan had not promptly shared its bumper wheat crop or “given a yard of cloth for our shrouds”.

Last month revealed a remarkable turnaround. Bangladesh’s GDP per person is now higher than Pakistan’s. Converted into dollars at market exchange rates, it was $1,538 in the past fiscal year (which ended on June 30th). Pakistan’s was about $1,470.

Strange as it may sound, Bangladesh jumped ahead because of an advance in Pakistan. On August 25th Pakistan released the results of its census, updating earlier population estimates. They showed that the country has 207.8m people, more than 9m more than previously thought. It may now have the fifth biggest population in the world, surpassing Brazil’s. But the new count also lopped 4-5% off Pakistan’s GDP per person, the arithmetic consequence of revealing so many more people.

A caveat should be noted. A dollar stretches further in Pakistan than in Bangladesh because prices in the former tend to be lower. So Pakistan’s $1,470 per person actually has more purchasing power than Bangladesh’s $1,538.

This is nonetheless a good moment to celebrate Bangladesh’s economic progress. Its annual growth has averaged more than 6% over the past ten years and has run above 7% over the past two. Industry accounts for 29% of its GDP. A country that once lacked cloth for shrouds now exports more ready-made garments than India and Pakistan combined. Working conditions are still far worse than they should be. They are also far better than they once were.

Bangladesh’s GDP per person received a boost from another source. Its last census, in 2011, led to a large revision of the country’s population, larger even than Pakistan’s. But in Bangladesh’s case, the revision was downwards.

https://www.economist.com/news/asia...s?zid=306&ah=1b164dbd43b0cb27ba0d4c3b12a5e227

 

[Maarkhoor]

It's cool.

Not at all PMLN often do such things to get more voters from some specific community, this will lead to the creation of another MQM like outfit they are not locals but came here illegally for jobs we should give them work permits and charge them fees so they always knows that they are not Pakistanis but foreign nationals and those who choose to stay after 1971 deserve citizenship.