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So then why pakistan imposed sanction on iran to ruin your own export in first place ?
Because of the UN sanctions which blocked most of our export goods. Iran will now also be connected to China through CPEC. Not to mention pipelines are being built.
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Ten years of sanctions because of their daughter Benazir. Iran has oil, what resources did Pakistan have to resist sanctions?

Bhutto and his entire clan were the worst punishment imposed on Pakistan..starting with his Islamic socialism rehotric to the last tenure of PPP...this party of traitors have given the country nothing but more poverty, misery and international sanctions...even the taliban mess today..directly relates to bhutto and benazir...despite her being a so-called leader of the country..she could not even govern her own house...and her husband looted the country day and night...one of the reason why women should not be voted to power in Pakistan....

Because of the UN sanctions which blocked most of our export goods. Iran will now also be connected to China through CPEC. Not to mention pipelines are being built.

More important than exports is the control of Iranian state backed smuggling which have destroyed our industry..
 
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Because of the UN sanctions which blocked most of our export goods. Iran will now also be connected to China through CPEC. Not to mention pipelines are being built.
CPEC%2BProjects.jpg

But Iran's interest for gwadar is against their own interest to develop chabhahar port.China's main population lyes on eastern part and not west.Why should iran have to depend on pakistan for CPEC, when they can do themselves if needed after post sanction?
 
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All the previous notifications giving effect to sanctions imposed on Iran by UN Security Council stand repealed with the issuance of this new notification by the foreign ministry, in keeping with the Security Council resolution 2231.

Surely, it's Idiotic title given by editor/writer of news. But knee jerk response of members tells that it has reached to intended audience.
 
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What the Fuc* is going on here ..All Pakistani's and Iranians should behave themselves ..it's a fuckin* good news for both countries..whats the fuse is all about....and this is the main theme..
According to a notification issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Islamabad will revive all economic and commercial relations with Tehran, including the areas of trade, investment, technology, banking, finance, energy.All the previous notifications giving effect to sanctions imposed on Iran by UN Security Council stand repealed with the issuance of this new notification by the foreign ministry, in keeping with the Security Council resolution 2231.
Now tell me is it something insulting to some one..Seriously before PDF i had a good view about Iran and Iranians..all i knew that they were the first one's to accept us at UN and we have brotherly relations with them .. and all i see here is arrogant and stub-burns likes of having wet dreams of some kind of superpower and hatred towards Pakistan .. sorry for being rude but this is the reality..

And indian's as Usual flame baiting here.. pathetic creatures .. Go wipe the tears of your so called :pleasantry:brave general on live T.V..such sissy..
 
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Pakistan does need Iranian oil and gas.
This isn't sanction against Iran which Pakistan wants to lift, It's sanction against themselves.
 
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Saudi is necessary for pilgrimage. A door can be built in the wall once the Iranian people have a sensible government. It's terribly sad that the people with whom we once shared so much are now completely alien to us.

Come on man it isn't right to say that. We are good friends, we do not have any kinda antipathies with Iranians. The truth is we haven't really tested their relationship as off yet. You know why? Because our leaders have always been the puppets of the US Government. We had good relations with Shah not because he was a great guy, but because US wanted us to maintain a good relations with them.
Truth is that we haven't sealed our border as of yet because we trust our Iranians brothers, and without any doubt they trust us too. In a war of terror where Iran was considered a hostile nation, have you seen even a single incident in Iran that caused due to negligence in our relationships? Iranians yes without a doubt fought a proxy war against Saudi Arabia inside Pakistan but why we do not blame both? Why we always lift fingers on Iran but not on Saudi Arabia? To be honest Iranians have the least temperament than all of our neighbors. And you know why? Because though Iranians knew that the Saudis are funding extremists inside Pakistan against not only Pakistan's Military but against Iranians too, yet they never tried to test this brotherly relationship.
I may strife with Iranians on many religious issues as I am orthodox Sunni and they follow orthodox Shia sect, but that doesn't mean I go on with a bitterness in my attitude against my neighbors. I had a lecturer in my Uni when I was studying in Australia and she was Iranian, and believe me I never had encounter such a great professor in my life. I met many Iranians in Singapore in Malaysia and in Uzbekistan and believe me they all had one thing in common and that was their positive attitude towards every individual.
 
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What the Fuc* is going on here ..All Pakistani's and Iranians should behave themselves ..it's a fuckin* good news for both countries..whats the fuse is all about....and this is the main theme..
According to a notification issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Islamabad will revive all economic and commercial relations with Tehran, including the areas of trade, investment, technology, banking, finance, energy.All the previous notifications giving effect to sanctions imposed on Iran by UN Security Council stand repealed with the issuance of this new notification by the foreign ministry, in keeping with the Security Council resolution 2231.
Now tell me is it something insulting to some one..Seriously before PDF i had a good view about Iran and Iranians..all i knew that they were the first one's to accept us at UN and we have brotherly relations with them .. and all i see here is arrogant and stub-burns likes of having wet dreams of some kind of superpower and hatred towards Pakistan .. sorry for being rude but this is the reality..

And indian's as Usual flame baiting here.. pathetic creatures .. Go wipe the tears of your so called :pleasantry:brave general on live T.V..such sissy..

The first insult came from your country man.

Post number 10 was,
Build a wall. Anyone who goes for 'religious training' in Iran or Iraq, or for terrorism in Syria, refuse them re-entry.

If your posters don't come to the Iranian forum and insult us, I doubt you will see anti-pakistan attitudes here. Before that, no one was insulting Pakistanis in this thread.

You and @Talwar e Pakistan should inform your Pakistan brothers like that guy to not jump into such a thread and insult Iranians, so that Iranians don't lash out in return.
 
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All joking aside we welcome closer ties with Pakistan in all fields.we will make money.you will make money.us happy,you happy, screw the unhappy.for sure Pakistan's approach in sanctions era will be considered, though.and India should be praised on the other hand.

As you know, we Iranians have a great sense of humor, if there was no troll such as @libertycall , you wouldn't see all these jokes from Iranians and Indians.he is nicely lashed out anyway.
 
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Come on man it isn't right to say that. We are good friends, we do not have any kinda antipathies with Iranians. The truth is we haven't really tested their relationship as off yet. You know why? Because our leaders have always been the puppets of the US Government. We had good relations with Shah not because he was a great guy, but because US wanted us to maintain a good relations with them.
Truth is that we haven't sealed our border as of yet because we trust our Iranians brothers, and without any doubt they trust us too. In a war of terror where Iran was considered a hostile nation, have you seen even a single incident in Iran that caused due to negligence in our relationships? Iranians yes without a doubt fought a proxy war against Saudi Arabia inside Pakistan but why we do not blame both? Why we always lift fingers on Iran but not on Saudi Arabia? To be honest Iranians have the least temperament than all of our neighbors. And you know why? Because though Iranians knew that the Saudis are funding extremists inside Pakistan against not only Pakistan's Military but against Iranians too, yet they never tried to test this brotherly relationship.
I may strife with Iranians on many religious issues as I am orthodox Sunni and they follow orthodox Shia sect, but that doesn't mean I go on with a bitterness in my attitude against my neighbors. I had a lecturer in my Uni when I was studying in Australia and she was Iranian, and believe me I never had encounter such a great professor in my life. I met many Iranians in Singapore in Malaysia and in Uzbekistan and believe me they all had one thing in common and that was their positive attitude towards every individual.

Bro, consider the fact that the Iranian leadership is now deliberately recruiting Shia terrorists from Pakistan to fight their wars in Syria....and this too AFTER Pakistan has said no to the Saudis in Yemen, and the Turks/Saudis in Syria. Can you imagine the consequences if these hardened terrorists are allowed back into Pakistan? Do you think the Iranian leadership hasn't considered this?

Regarding Saudi, they funded jihadi groups in Pakistan as part of the Pakistani governments policy of making life difficult for the Soviet occupation in Afghanistan.

The Saudis did not fund any militant groups in Pakistan attacking Shia until the Iranians funded trained and armed 'Tehreek-i-Jafria' and it killed the leader of one of Pakistan's main Sunni groups--a man who was regarded by Shaykh Bin Baz as his favorite student.

Night and day all we hear from the sectarians in Pakistan is that Zia was anti-Shia. I am no fan of Zia but this is a lie. The Saudis told Zia they didn't want Pakistani Shia soldiers on Saudi soil; Zia refused. Zia secretly supplied the Ayatollahs with radar systems parts. He let them use Karachi to trade when they were sanctioned....there is so much that Zia did for the Ayatollahs even when helping them would likely have caused Pakistan problems with allies and the international community...and what has been the result? they insult Zia on sectarian grounds.

The fact is that Iran has a leadership which is fanatically minded. It perceives everything through the prism of sect. And until Pakistanis acknowledge that fact, then Pakistan will never understand Iranian foreign policy, and how it affects Pakistan.
 
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The first insult came from your country man.

Post number 10 was,


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Post no 2 comes first i think and 9 likes on it tells the story of insult dear.. don't be a hypocrite. believe me if any Pakistani did such in Iranian section every one of you would have gone berserk.. Stay on topic..
 
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Actually it was Iran that modeled alot of its Islamic revolution after Pakistan. The revolution wasnt foolish - life, economy and condition significantly increased.

I dont think so..Iran took a backward gear and is actually much poor now on individual level...almost every Iranian i have met has a nostalgia for Shah era...only people who ended up happy with the revolution were the backward villager bigots...

Then is their constant love of marg bar america, marg bar israel, marg bar france, marg bar UK and politicizing of everything..

1987 Mecca incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Night and day all we hear from the sectarians in Pakistan is that Zia was anti-Shia. I am no fan of Zia but this is a lie. The Saudis told Zia they didn't want Pakistani Shia soldiers on Saudi soil; Zia refused. Zia secretly supplied the Ayatollahs with radar systems parts. He let them use Karachi to trade when they were sanctioned....there is so much that Zia did for the Ayatollahs even when helping them would likely have caused Pakistan problems with allies and the international community...and what has been the result? they insult Zia on sectarian grounds.

Iranians politicians are just one big trolls and Iranian citizens are like zombies who will follow their mullahs and supreme leaders in anything they say...the ones with a free mind want to escape Iran at first opportunity and many have already ended up in west.


Iranian revolution[edit]
Bhutto's ouster was followed a year and a half later by the Iranian Revolution and overthrow of the Shah of Iran. Iran's new Supreme Leader, theAyatollah Khomeini, withdrew the country from CENTO and ended its association with the United States.[1] The religiously influenced military government of Zia-ul-Haq and the Islamic Revolution in Iran suited one another well, and as such there was no diplomatic and political cleavage between them.[1] In 1979, Pakistan was one of the first countries in the world to recognize the revolutionary regime in Iran. Responding swiftly to this revolutionary change, Foreign Minister of PakistanAgha Shahi immediately undertook a state visit to Tehran, meeting with his Iranian counterpart Karim Sanjabi on March 10, 1979.[1] Both expressed confidence that Iran and Pakistan were going to march together to a brighter future.[1] The next day, Agha Shahi held talks with the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, in which developments in the region were discussed.[1] On 11 April 1979, Zia famously declared that "Khomeini is a symbol of Islamic insurgence".[1] Reciprocating President Zia's sentiments, Imam Khomeini, in his letter, called for Muslim unity.[1] He declared: "Ties with Pakistan are based on Islam."[1] By 1981, however, Pakistan, under Zia-ul-Haq, had once again formed close ties with the United States, a position it has remained in since.[1]

Iranian support for Pakistan dates back to the 1960s when Iran supplied Pakistan with American military weaponry and spare parts after America cut off their military aid to Pakistan.[45] After 1971 Indo-Pakistani War, new Prime minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto immediately withdrew Pakistan from CENTO and SEATO after Bhutto thought that the military alliances failed to protect or appropriately assist Pakistan and instead alienated the Soviet Union. A serious military cooperation between took place during the Balochistan insurgency phases against the armed separatist movement in 1974–77.[46] Around ~100,000 Pakistan and Iranian troops were involved in quelling the separatist organisations in Balochistan and successfully put the resistance down in 1978–80.[46] In May 2014, the two countries agreed to joint operations against terrorists and drug traffickers in the border regions.[47]


Pakistani support for Iran during the Iran–Iraq war[edit]
Main articles: Iran–Iraq War and Pakistan and the Iran–Iraq War
The 1980–88 Iran–Iraq War was a polarizing issue in Pakistan. Despite their long friendship, the militancy of Shia inspired by revolutionary Iran left many Pakistani Sunni feeling deeply threatened.[10] President Zia had to manage his country's security carefully, knowing that Pakistan risked being dragged into a war with its closest neighbor because of its alliance with the United States.[10] In support of the Gulf Cooperation Council, formed in 1981, around 40,000 personnel of the Pakistan Armed Forces were stationed in Saudi Arabia to reinforce the internal and external security of the region.[10] Although high-ranking members of Pakistan Armed Forces strongly objected to the killing of Shia pilgrims in the 1987 Mecca incident in Saudi Arabia, Zia did not issue any orders to Pakistan Armed Forces-Arab Contingent Forces to engage any country militarily.[10]

Despite its stated neutrality, ties to the U.S., and fears of Shia militancy, Pakistan came to be seen as generally pro-Iranian in sentiment.[10] Many Stinger missiles shipped to Pakistan for use by Afghan mujahideen were instead sold to Iran, which proved to be a defining factor for Iran in the Tanker war.[10]

Atoms for Peace cooperation[edit]
See also: Atoms for Peace
Since 1987, Pakistan has steadily blocked any Iranian acquisition of nuclear weapons; however, Pakistan has wholeheartedly supported Iran's viewpoint on the issue of itsnuclear energy program, maintaining that "Iran has the right to develop its nuclear program within the ambit of NPT." In 1987 Pakistan and Iran signed an agreement on civil nuclear energy cooperation, with Zia-ul-Haq personally visiting Iran as part of its "Atoms for Peace" program.[50] Internationally, Zia calculated that this cooperation with Iran was purely a "civil matter", necessary for maintaining good relations with Tehran.[50] According to IAEA, Iran wanted to purchase fuel-cycle technology from Pakistan, but was rebuffed.[50] Zia did not approve any further nuclear deals, but one of Pakistan's senior scientists did secretly hand over a sensitive report on centrifuges in 1987–89.[50] In 2005,IAEA evidence showed that Pakistani cooperation with Iran's nuclear program was limited to "non-military spheres",[51] and was peaceful in nature.[51] Tehran had offered as much as $5 billion for nuclear weapons technology in 1990, but had been firmly rejected. Centrifuge technology was transferred in 1989; since then, there have been no further atoms for peace agreements.[51]

In 2005, IAEA evidence revealed that the centrifuge designs transferred in 1989 were based on early commercial power plant technology, and were riddled with technical errors; the designs were not evidence of an active nuclear weapons program.[52]
 
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Post no 2 comes first i think and 9 likes on it tells the story of insult dear.. don't be a hypocrite. believe me if any Pakistani did such in Iranian section every one of you would have gone berserk.. Stay on topic..
The title is funny indeed.even some of your fellow members laughed and loled.whats wrong?
 
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Keep on sucking India then.
Why cant Iran have good relations with both Pak & India?
We maintain good relation with US and Russia at the same time.....its good for our country.
You shouldnt force Iran to end its brotherly relationship with us just bcuz you dont like us.
Iranians never expects Pakistanis to leave the Saudis but expects it to maintain a neutral perspective as far as the Saudi-Iran conflict is considered.
 
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