Pakistan-Israel relationship

[Norwegian]

These coward burka poosh mullah haven't killed anybody themselves but their sermons have led to lost of innocent people. I 100% support mass killing of this creed to protect humanity.

We need Ata Turk style Mullah pogrom to save future of Pakistan from extremists and religious nutjobs!

 

[rockstar08]

We have no problem getting help from the Chinese. But Israelis have quality products unlike China


Well, there is a reason we are called Pakistanis


Really? How many Pakistanis are in favor of any relation with our "enemy" USA? Yet we have had extremely good relations with the 'Big Satan', best friend of Israel since our inception. Ayub, Zia, Musharraf all loved US and would even sell their motherland for their interests. So why is tiny Israel such a sensitive issue?

US was never our enemy from the beginning , did you even read the history ?? or you are just mixing a mullah point of view here with mine ?? post 9/11 usa was good friend ,

 

[Kaniska]

The anti Israel stance of Pakistan is nothing to do with Palestine...Gov of Pakistan takes this stance for their citizen to show that they how committed for the Muslim cause by Pakistan...And this happens when your nation narrative is nothing but only religion...Do not take me wrong...I not questioning why it is like that..but the difference between other Muslim nations like Turkey or Indonesia and Pakistan is the difference in narrative of your nation...Some one gave example of Turkey has many narrative of its nationhood...Same even for Arab nation too..There is a difference between Turkey/Indonesia or Arab nations vs Pakistan...Arab nations or Turkey has the luxury of being in relationship with Israel because their nation has created multiple constructive narrative of their nation where if also they compromise little of being supporter of Muslim cause narrative, still then they have many things to feel proud of...But unfortunately, Pakistan Gov does not have any kind of constructive narrative apart from a trying to become more Muslim than other Muslims narrative...And that is why they can not accept Israel if also they wish to..
This is a systematic problem that successive Pakistan Gov and their army has created in their mind of the people...

 

[rockstar08]

These coward burka poosh mullah haven't killed anybody themselves but their sermons have led to lost of innocent people. I 100% support mass killing of this creed to protect humanity.

you can save humanity by killing mullah who support terrorism , but i dont see any terrorism here, for hating a country ... in that case our whole army hates India and they also should be executed to save humanity ?

 

[Norwegian]

US was never our enemy from the beginning , did you even read the history ?? or you are just mixing a mullah point of view here with mine ?? post 9/11 usa was good friend ,

Yeah sure. It was US that funded Islamization and radicalization of Pakistan during Zia regime. US has always been anti-Pakistan.

 

[Solomon2]

...Arab nations or Turkey has the luxury of being in relationship with Israel because their nation has created multiple constructive narrative of their nation where if also they compromise little of being supporter of Muslim cause narrative, still then they have many things to feel proud of...But unfortunately, Pakistan Gov does not have any kind of constructive narrative apart from a trying to become more Muslim than other Muslims narrative...And that is why they can not accept Israel if also they wish to...

I think they're trying to get out of the "more Muslim than other Muslims" narrative now. No more terrorism. After seventy years being "Pakistani" is enough. And if what you say is true than recognizing Israel is a very important part of the process - the sooner, the better, for then the other bigotries and impetus to commit terror will crumble away.

 

[rockstar08]

Yeah sure. It was US that funded Islamization and radicalization of Pakistan during Zia regime. US has always been anti-Pakistan.

no , only mullah believe such stuff, and still mullah is dying to go USA for tablieegh , lolz
US-Pak relationship started to cripple after 9/11 ... lets not go into the details ,cause its irrelevant to the topic

 

[Norwegian]

US-Pak relationship started to cripple after 9/11 ... lets not go into the details ,cause its irrelevant to the topic

That was when Americans found about our double crossings for the second time. First time it happened during Zia regime.

 

[MastanKhan]

However, these covert relations deprive Pakistanis of the psychological and economic benefits of open relationships. It's time for both Israel and Pakistan to move beyond these. I would ignore any objections of the ISI or Mossad - bureaucracies tend to put their own interests first in such matters.

Yep. It's a good question. And the Germans, French, et al have no good answers, only embarrassing ones.

Hi,

And you are correct and indeed they don't have any answer except the lives of the rich monarchy and landowners were controlled by the money lenders and when the people in power got desperate because of too much debt---they did despicable things to the jews by getting the church involved and letting the church do the dirty work---the hatred started from the top down.

And for those embarrassing answer---the germans and the French should have paid for their SINS by giving their lands to the jews for a HOMEAND and not Palestine.

The germans are happy that they got rid of the jew---the French are happy they are getting rid of the jew----every European country is happy that they got rid of the JEW----the americans are saying---WHAT THE FCUK---what did we do to get ourselves involved in this mess----.

Name one European country that did not persecute the jews---and then in the end----to pay for their sins----they gave you a land that was not their's to give---you snapped it up and did not want to acknowledge that you were depriving someone who was weaker than you----the persecuted became the persecutor.

 

[TOPGUN]

So you will go against the wish of your Qaid-e-azam?
I call it f***ed up priorities.

He is not my nothing , founding father of Pakistan yes to me nothing respect is there from me but nothing else he is long gone and dead it is in our hands to make Pakistan better not the dead . Please if you can't think with a straight head and positive mindset and mouth don't troll here or you will be gone very soon and yes that should be your so called F__D up priority # 1 not mines fix your post and future posts .

 

[Kaniska]

I think they're trying to get out of the "more Muslim than other Muslims" narrative now. No more terrorism. After seventy years being "Pakistani" is enough. And if what you say is true than recognizing Israel is a very important part of the process - the sooner, the better, for then the other bigotries and impetus to commit terror will crumble away.

You are expecting too much...Now the people of Pakistan are being screwed by jihadi mullahs left and right...That is why they are pretending to be little bit moderate...I do not think so...If it really happens with Pakistan society, then there will be definitely a peace in South Asia

 

[Solomon2]

And you are correct and indeed they don't have any answer except the lives of the rich monarchy and landowners were controlled by the money lenders and when the people in power got desperate because of too much debt---they did despicable things to the jews by getting the church involved and letting the church do the dirty work---the hatred started from the top down.

Started way long before that, back when Christian religious and state hierarchies conceived themselves as superseding the Jews.

And for those embarrassing answer---the germans and the French should have paid for their SINS by giving their lands to the jews for a HOMEAND and not Palestine...in the end----to pay for their sins----they gave you a land that was not their's to give-

You need to go back and read my quickie pocket history again.

The germans are happy that they got rid of the jew---the French are happy they are getting rid of the jew----every European country is happy that they got rid of the JEW----the americans are saying---WHAT THE FCUK---what did we do to get ourselves involved in this mess----Name one European country that did not persecute the jews---

I suspect that a core reason for Jew-hatred is that dictators and leftists like to both govern and pronounce what is right and what is wrong, whereas the Jews recognize that the rulers are apt to act in their own interests rather than those of the people they govern and thus right and wrong was provided by Torah and prophets - since the loss of the Temple, only the Torah and Oral Law. It's a check on power and prestige that many cannot abide.

and then --you snapped it up and did not want to acknowledge that you were depriving someone who was weaker than you----the persecuted became the persecutor.

When land is bought at exceedingly high prices the seller can scarcely claim to being deprived. You don't think the weak can persecute the strong? What is a prison riot? What is a father dealing with rebellious children? Israel was compelled to claim full independence through persecution by the Arabs and the abandonment of the British and many of the descendants of the Arabs who could not abide Jews as equal neighbors still persecute Jews today in what fashion they can, be it through stabbings of babies or rocket attacks upon cities. And you support them! Why, if you support terrorist methods of change and the depriving of life and liberty, should they just be applied to Israel and not to Pakistanis themselves? This is where the font of terror springs.

 

[SQ8]

and you really think , they do give a Damn about the pressure we will put on them ?? lolz
they dont even care about US of A , Pakistan will be like a Chewing Gum for them, chew and spit ..



happy naya saal ..

And do you really think they give a damn right now, it is this mentality of getting our way openly that is why we are the proverbial paan to spit. If we had relations with Israel, we would have had our little requirements met.. and provide the usual lip service we do to the Palestinians.

 

[hussain0216]

Lets stop the B.S

Pakistanis hate israel

They have killed and oppressed muslims
They have subjugated the Palestinians
They have occupied Jerusalem
They have occupied Al Aqsa


What the israelis want is a free ride, they want to do all of the above yet bypass giving the palestinians freedom and a nation and vacating their homes and lands

Any muslim who supports relations with israel is a hypocrite


The israelis face demographic problems
They face a hostile world muslim population that is increasing in key countries and beginning to put pressure on politicians to stand against israel
They are facing economic problems

The cracks are beginning to appear in israel


The worst thing we can do is release the pressure



Lets be honest a bunch of liberal no bodies wont change the views of the majority of Pakistan

Israel is hated and despised for valid reasons


The leader who makes the mistake of reaching out to israel will be hanging from a lamppost by his balls the next day

 

[IRAN 1802]

Muslim Ummah !!!