Pakistan in talks for 4 Ada Class Corvettes, T-129 Helicopters & modernization of agosta fleet

[MarcsPakistan]

Maybe let's see what happen !!

 

[Hawkeye71]

Wait and watch....

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well certainly would be a celebrated achivement if it does materializes

 

[Arsalan]

We have been interested in the MILGEM project for quite some time now. The main stories have sadly been about the Ada Class Corvettes and not the TF-100 Istanbul class frigates. While Ada class do not offer much improvement over other possible options we can go for (read Chinese) the TF-100 will surely bring in some extra goodies and more importantly give a perfect launch pad/base to go for TF-2000 air defense frigates at some point in future.

The question however remains that what it will be that we go for. I just hope and pray that it is TF-100 frigates. Ada class corvettes wont be a huge coup!

It can be for the T-129.

Sir Jee!!
Na kr soo!!

 

[razgriz19]

well ganga visited Turkey not too long ago, so i'm assuming something important is going to take place that's why he's there again. Hopefully the news is true but i'm still very skeptical.

 

[egodoc222]

Indians will die of heart attack

Why...why Do you want to destroy a nice thread!!?
On topic: how do these corvettes fair when compared to Chinese ones.

 

[Aawish]

I hope they are Milgem-G, not that standard Ada-class/MILGEM.

 

[Danish saleem]

That will be Agreement for Corvettes, not for Frigates.

 

[Zarvan]

Friend who works at BOL says Pakistan and Turkey are going to sign 50 contracts including some for defense.

@Rashid Mahmood @Arsalan

 

[Penguin]

Did you look into the pics of the daddy.

As much as I like the Talwar class, your post evokes just one response "My, an update of a Soviet era Krivak class frigate. We should all be scared now?" Can we get over this now?

fake news

anyway the frigate is useless without air defence.
even small Chinese coverts have better airdefence

How can you state this without even knowing anything about what ship exactly is expected?
Batch 2 Ada (TF-100 Istanbul) has 2x8 VLS Mk41 IIRC.
If it is Ada and fitted with RAM then the RAM block 2 missile would give 22.5km range rather than 9km for the older RAM missiles, as compared to 12km HQ7/FM80 or 15km HQ7/FM90 and 9 km for FL-3000M.

Longer range missiles would be nice, but are not a necessity for PN: they should be operating under land based air cover (to take care of flying launch platforms) and have sufficient range AShM (to take care of sea based launch platforms).

Indians will die of heart attack

Why? (is this necessary?)

 

[Sloth 22]

RAM Air Defence System.

http://www.diehl.com/fileadmin/diehl-defence/user_upload/flyer/Flyer_RAMSYS_RAM_120830.pdf

After the USN and German Navy orders , UAE too has ordered RAM Block 2.
http://www.janes.com/article/67939/idex-2017-uae-signs-up-for-the-ram-block-2

 

[MultaniGuy]

Good move, hopefully this will benefit PN.

 

[Penguin]

RAM Air Defence System.

http://www.diehl.com/fileadmin/diehl-defence/user_upload/flyer/Flyer_RAMSYS_RAM_120830.pdf

After the USN and German Navy orders , UAE too has ordered RAM Block 2.
http://www.janes.com/article/67939/idex-2017-uae-signs-up-for-the-ram-block-2

Interesting, first time a see an actual Mk 49 RAM launcher with fewer than the normal 21 rounds. This clearly is the missile pod from SeaRAM. There used to be a 5-round pod for insertion into the Mk29 GWLS (for Sea Sparrow), of which the pods were also used for a light (lighter than Mk 49) 10-round launcher (2x5). THe only suggested application a saw for this was a frigate proposed by Litton-Ingalls for the international market, essentially a big brother to the Sa'ar-5 for the Israeli navy.

See http:// forum . keypublishing . com/showthread.php?95294-next-gen-USN-frigate&p=1478922#post1478922

Version of Northrop-Grumman / Litton-Ingalls FF21 with single Mk49 launcher behind the stack

Version of same FF21 with 2x 10-round launchers for RAM

The 2x5 RAM 'alternate launching system' (ALS) was developed by one Per Udsen of Denmark for use in smaller warships.

As for RAM from Mk 29, see Norman Friedman - The Naval Institute guide to world naval weapon systems 2006 ( books.google.nl/books?isbn=1557502625 ):
Page 592: "It is not clear whether Mk 29 launchers will be modified to fire RAM (according to past reports, they will not)."

The Naval Institute guide to world naval weapons systems, 1997-1998 Norman Friedman ( books.google.nl/books?isbn=1557502684 )
Page 413: "All installations use the 21-rnd mk 49 box launcher. Proposals for modification of the Sea Sparrow and Mk 13 launchers failed, and Hughes' vertical launcher was rejected for the last LHDs (to avoid introducing a unique system). Proposals have been made for launchers to be mounted alongside the standard U.S. 5 inch gun and atop the Contraves Sea Shield Mount"

DD-963 SPRUANCE-class Design .... RAM missiles were to have been installed, four each in two cells of the Mk 29 Sea Sparrow launcher, in the early 1990s, but the modification has been canceled.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/dd-963-design.htm

8x5 = 40 rounds max of RAM to a Mk29 NSSM launcher .....

From the same period, the American offering for the Norwegian frigate competition (won by Bazan > Nansen class)

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1118.0.html

 

[Cool_Soldier]

Hmmm, waiting for this contract.
either T-129 or Corvette deal is expected

 

[MultaniGuy]

Looks good