Pakistan has gone the extra mile for peace with India, but will they reciprocate?

[Jackdaws]

Look at post 40. It's your own fault blaming others won't help.


It also saved an iaf pilot "who wanted to bomb a school full of children" from locals and returned him safe.

Whatever helps you sleep at nite

 

[SIPRA]

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Terrorist to one is always freedom fighter to other.....

When you accept the above quoted principle; then why are you arguing with @HammerHead081; if to him, Kashmiris, are Freedom Fighters, and not Terrorists. This principle, in itself, implies that there is no commonly accepted basis of establishing legitimacy of an armed political struggle.

 

[Adonis]

I have already explained by using definition from google so you should read my other post. Indian army are the terrorists in Kashmir "by definition", not even being biased here. Kashmiris who fight against Indian army are freedom fighters by definition, NOT terrorists.

Is google authority of deciding who is what?... If Kashmiris fighting Indian Army are FF then Balochs fighting Pak army are the same by that logic? as both are fighting from their freedom....

When you accept the above quoted principle; then why are you arguing with @HammerHead081; if to him, Kashmiris, are Freedom Fighters, and not Terrorists. This principle, in itself, implies that there is no commonly accepted basis of establishing legitimacy of an armed political struggle.

I am arguing on "It's a Fact" thing as I mentioned in my previous post....on bold part above, it is Exactly what I am trying to say...so there is nothing called," It's a fact".

 

[HammerHead081]

If Kashmiris fighting Indian Army are FF then Balochs fighting Pak army are the same by that logic?

Both are not the same. Kashmir is a disputed region whereas Balochistan isn't. Balochis don't want to leave Pakistan whereas Kashmiris want to have a choice if they want to go independent or join Pakistan. Kashmiris are being oppressed, raped and killed by Indian army for decades so India can change demographic of kashmir by placing in non kashmiris. Whereas Pakistan isn't doing anything remotely close to this.

 

[Max]

There will be no peace, even if somehow dialogue resume, there will be an attack and we will be at point zero again.

 

[SIPRA]

I am arguing on "It's a Fact" thing as I mentioned in my previous post....on bold part above, it is Exactly what I am trying to say...so there is nothing called," It's a fact".

Yes. In stricter epistemological sense, such kind of statements would fall in the category of "Opinion", and not "Fact". But in common linguistic parlance, a group, who are fighting for freedom, are invariably called "Freedom Fighters", by those who support their struggle, and "Terrorist" or "Traitors", who don't support them, as a "fact". That is how politics works.

 

[Republic]

on bold...Why? because we say so?..... if they would be freedom fighters , at least one country in the world would have acknowledged them as not terrorist but freedom fighters....we know our prerogative is not bought by the world. Not I ma not saying anything whether their cause is legitimate or not...I am just questioning your authoritative declaration, "It's a fact".

Terrorist to one is always freedom fighter to other.....

Freedom fighters to------Organisation---------Terrorist to
Palestine-----------------------Hamas-------------------Israel
US/World---------------------Peshmerga--------------Iraq
Pakistan------------------------Taliban---------------Afghanistan/US
India--------------------------BLA/PTM/TTP-----------Pakistan
Pakistan----------------------HM/LeT/JDU-------------India
and the list goes on

A minor correction-
India never ever said that BLA/PTM/TTP are freedom fighters.
Never..
Thanks.

 

[Kedardel]

Why have talks at all..... Let Pakistan keep its grievances with India. Talking to Pakistan is useless for India.
As if talks will have any outcome.

 

[SIPRA]

Why have talks at all..... Let Pakistan keep its grievances with India. Talking to Pakistan is useless for India.
As if talks will have any outcome.

Why have talks at all..... Let India keep its grievances with Pakistan. Talking to India is useless for Pakistan.
As if talks will have any outcome.

 

[Kedardel]

Exactly, why this going extra mile, thing.

Why have talks at all..... Let India keep its grievances with Pakistan. Talking to India is useless for Pakistan.
As if talks will have any outcome.

 

[SIPRA]

Exactly, why this going extra mile, thing.

Just an information and propaganda warfare, on the diplomatic front; nothing more.

 

[Halls]

Extra Mile???? Dawn is generally a decent source of info but sometimes... they are just, you know....

 

[mikkix]

I think our government and military is scared of India.

 

[Halls]

I don't think India wants peace... That is blunder on our side to think like that.. Just go ahead, and try to disintegrate India, thats the only solution.

Peace means something to one person and something else another person. I think they want progress and put India on par or above US economical and technological prowess.

 

[Mugwop]

Whatever helps you sleep at nite

What a come back jack
Sounds like there's no fight left in you