Pakistan has gone the extra mile for peace with India, but will they reciprocate?

[SIPRA]

Sure I take it. Then I guess the TTP BLA must be Hero to some people which - according to you - is also a fact. I guess we agree on this one.

Of course, TTP and BLA are also heroes of certain group of people.

 

[Kuru]

Of course, TTP and BLA are also heroes of certain group of people.

Right and turns out that we can't really call anyone a terrorist now. Cause it's a 2 side of coin kind of a thing.

 

[Republic]

I agree with you. Just because Pakistan has been providing diplomatic, financial and moral support to Kashmiri terrorists from last 70 years doesn't mean that India should treat BLA terrorists. I condemn it.

Me too

 

[Rollno21]

Quote some indians here and ask them if they want peace

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Nope we don't ,atleast the younger generation dsnt want till the support to terrorism is stopped

 

[SIPRA]

Right and turns out that we can't really call anyone a terrorist now. Cause it's a 2 side of coin kind of a thing.

We can, provided we, the human beings, can come out of our prejudices and and self interests, in the name of state, religion, nationality, ethnicity, race, caste and likes; arrive at an accepted universal definition of "Terrorism"; and then devise a global mechanism for the determination of act of terrorism, on the principles of justice and fair play.

 

[Rollno21]

So we can't interfere in UN declared disputed territory but you can interfere in a territory with which you don't even share border

OK

That is the reason no one supports Pakistan and nothing changed on the ground for all these years
What you said was the line your diplomats used .

 

[third eye]

However, the Indians have also said the Kartarpur issue should not be viewed as a renewal of dialogue with Pakistan.

Here lies the answer to the question posed in the title of this thread & article.

Unfortunately, ever since the BJP took power in Delhi in 2014, aversion to dialogue on the Indian side has been very clear.

Agreed & with good reason .

These incidents and mixed messages raise questions about India’s desire for peace.

India's message is not mixed at all , quite clear actually

Is the BJP so beholden to the zealous ideology of the RSS — its ideological parent — that it is unable to rise above narrow populism and display statesmanship when it comes to talking to Pakistan?

All Pak has to do is to address the issues that led to the shut down , it has nothing to do with RSS at all.

Now with Narendra Modi’s party firmly ensconced in power, perhaps the Indian government has decided that it can once again re-engage with Pakistan.

Wishful thinking & contradicts the part underlined above ( from the same article)

Clearly, if there is to be peace in the subcontinent, incidents such as those targeting Pakistani troops and civilians must stop.

.. and Vice Versa

 

[Areesh]

That is the reason no one supports Pakistan and nothing changed on the ground for all these years
What you said was the line your diplomats used .

OK Man mohan singh

You're right, Bengal, Karachi and Balochistan happened first, you only retaliated in Kashmir much much later. That's about right.

You guys yourself say that Kashmir went bad in late 80s and everything was good before that

Check your calendar for more details

 

[HammerHead081]

You're right, Bengal, Karachi and Balochistan happened first, you only retaliated in Kashmir much much later. That's about right.


Oh yeah, I forgot the concept of Good Terrorist and Bad Terrorist. You see I'm coming to PDF after a long time. My apologies.

I hope mods take notice of this. Those people who are fighting against Indian terrorists in Kashmir are freedom fighters and it's a fact. A fact cannot be stated wrong, so stop spreading fake news.

 

[Mugwop]

Nope we don't ,atleast the younger generation dsnt want till the support to terrorism is stopped

Which terrorism? rss sponsored hindu terrorism?
Christian militia of tripura
Khalistani militia
Communist militia
Kashmiri militia
Assam militia
Super power india can't stop them

I agree with you. Just because Pakistan has been providing diplomatic, financial and moral support to Kashmiri terrorists from last 70 years doesn't mean that India should treat BLA terrorists. I condemn it.

The support stopped under mushy because they wanted to kill him.After his peace plan regarding kashmir dispute.

Why you people are going these extraa miles again and again?? Why don't you just forget that there is any habitation beyond your eastern border ??
We don't have any thing to talk except our part of Kashmir which is under your control. But we are not insisting for talks and have decided to wait for the appropriate time to snatch it back.

Until then we are trying to forget there is any kind of population on the other side of the fence. I suggest you people to do the same.

In my opinion both nation should stop any kind of communication with each other. No awajahi. No high commission. Just a 100 feet high Steel wall between them.
That's all.
Thanks.

Kashmir is not your land ask abhinandan
Funny thing to say about communication while being on this forum. Hypocrite

 

[Vanamali]

Quote some indians here and ask them if they want peace


If nepal "hindu nation" hates them then How will we have peace with them?


Allowing bhartis on this forum is an effort to create somewhat peace and solve misunderstandings but all they want to do is chronic trolling and hate mongering.This is not the way to make peace with such people, FEB 27 was the first step of peace with india.

Leave about peace... First we don't want terrorism affecting India.

 

[Jackdaws]

Pakistan has gone the extra mile???? When????

It has consistently harboured terrorists responsible for hijackings and terror attacks. It has ticked some cosmetic boxes to escape sanctions.

Pakistan's new mantra seems to be - "Yes, those guys used to be terrorists but now they are under our control. Don't worry, forget what they did and let's talk peace."

India simply doesn't trust you after repeated backstabs.

 

[Mugwop]

Leave about peace... First we don't want terrorism affecting India.

Look at post 40. It's your own fault blaming others won't help.

Pakistan has gone the extra mile???? When????

It has consistently harboured terrorists responsible for hijackings and terror attacks. It has ticked some cosmetic boxes to escape sanctions.

Pakistan's new mantra seems to be - "Yes, those guys used to be terrorists but now they are under our control. Don't worry, forget what they did and let's talk peace."

India simply doesn't trust you after repeated backstabs.

It also saved an iaf pilot "who wanted to bomb a school full of children" from locals and returned him safe.

 

[Adonis]

I hope mods take notice of this. Those people who are fighting against Indian terrorists in Kashmir are freedom fighters and it's a fact. A fact cannot be stated wrong, so stop spreading fake news.

on bold...Why? because we say so?..... if they would be freedom fighters , at least one country in the world would have acknowledged them as not terrorist but freedom fighters....we know our prerogative is not bought by the world. Not I ma not saying anything whether their cause is legitimate or not...I am just questioning your authoritative declaration, "It's a fact".

Terrorist to one is always freedom fighter to other.....

Freedom fighters to------Organisation---------Terrorist to
Palestine-----------------------Hamas-------------------Israel
US/World---------------------Peshmerga--------------Iraq
Pakistan------------------------Taliban---------------Afghanistan/US
India--------------------------BLA/PTM/TTP-----------Pakistan
Pakistan----------------------HM/LeT/JDU-------------India
and the list goes on

 

[HammerHead081]

on bold...Why? because we say so?..... if they would be freedom fighters , at least one country in the world would have acknowledged them as not terrorist but freedom fighters....we know our prerogative is not bought by the world. Not I ma not saying anything whether their cause is legitimate or not...I am just questioning your authoritative declaration, "It's a fact".

Terrorist to one is always freedom fighter to other.....

Freedom fighters to------Organisation---------Terrorist to
Palestine-----------------------Hamas-------------------Israel
US/World---------------------Peshmerga--------------Iraq
Pakistan------------------------Taliban---------------Afghanistan/US
India--------------------------BLA/PTM/TTP-----------Pakistan
Pakistan----------------------HM/LeT/JDU-------------India
and the list goes on

I have already explained by using definition from google so you should read my other post. Indian army are the terrorists in Kashmir "by definition", not even being biased here. Kashmiris who fight against Indian army are freedom fighters by definition, NOT terrorists.