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Pakistan has become the face of international terrorism: India at UN


Because Pakistanis are united through Islam.

Islam is the unifying factors of all the ethnic groups in Pakistan.

Yes. Surprisingly this is a Pakistani forum though there are more Indians active here any given time of the day thanks to your population.
Agreed with El Sidd,

This forum is way too easy on Indians.

The illegitimacy of the Durand line as expressed by Afghanistan. The reason why your northern areas are semi governed and maintain porus borders.

So I suppose all terror attacks in Balochistan and your northern areas should cease now no? Since the network has been broken...
https://www.dawn.com/news/1358492/1...pak-afghan-border-in-balochistans-chaman-area
The UN recognizes the Durand line as a legitimate border between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Nice try though, LOL.
 
Since you had the decency to explain yourself, I will reply in the same coin..
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how you perceive the word "Baniya"...it does matter to the people you use the term towards. And if it paints a negative picture in their mind, then it is insulting.

To many in the US, the use of the term nigger, or nigga (as made popular by record artists) may not be such a big deal, but to African American folks, its a hateful word.
Same goes for the term **** in the UK.

Shylock was the name of the money lender in Merchant of Venice. It is not an insult at face value, but more to do with the negative characteristics and greed that Shylock embodied that makes it insulting. Similarly, Baniya as a cast is probably not an insult. But when you apply it to all Indians saying " Baniye ko pani pilao" you meant to use it as an insult.
Unless youre saying all Indians are Baniyas (cast)?? Which they clearly are not!
So what other reason except to invoke the negative characteristics of the "Baniya" would there be for you to refer to all Indians as Baniya?

Your deep state is baniye.
There's no denying it.
 
Because Pakistanis are united through Islam.

Islam is the unifying factors of all the ethnic groups in Pakistan.

We know how well that worked out for East Pakistan now known as Bangladesh!

The UN recognizes the Durand line as a legitimate border between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Nice try though, LOL.

I suppose you can ignore all the bloodshed and terrorism until the UN recognizes it.
Ostriches would have better forsythe and vision...
 
Onek rokomer boka fajil dekhechhi, kintu shesh porjonto ekhanei shob cheye boro udaharan dekhte holo? Tumi koth theke dhukle ete, amar shonar chand?

We all have our stories to tell.



And so? You call anyone anything and that is not to be seen or heard?



Have you seen the details next to your DP? That will tell you who is new and who is not.

I don't go in details just look at the flags.
That's enough
 
lol, the UN recognizes the Durand line as legitimate border between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

It is not disputed territory like Kashmir is.

We know how well that worked out for East Pakistan now known as Bangladesh!



I suppose you can ignore all the bloodshed and terrorism until the UN recognizes it.
Ostriches would have better forsythe and vision...
Bangladesh was far away to govern by the West Pakistan administration.

Nice try though, but wrong example.

Pakthunkwa will never secede because we are united through Islam.

you just want to see Muslims weak.

Well that is not going to happen.
 
Why the Durand Line Matters
It is time for Kabul to accept the legality of the border.

By Arwin Rahi
February 21, 2014


Afghan officials have at times accused Pakistan of being less than honest in pushing the Afghan Taliban for talks with Kabul. Before making such statements, those same officials should also try to understand Pakistan’s deep concerns about Afghanistan’s stance on their common border. At present, Afghanistan does not officially recognize the international border with Pakistan. Instead, it has territorial claims on areas stretching from the Afghan-Pakistan border to the Indus River, all told comprising nearly 60 percent of Pakistani territory.

This border dispute has its roots in the nineteenth century, when Pakistan was part of India and India was a British colony. The British imposed the 2640 km borderline on the Amir of Afghanistan in 1893 in a bid to strengthen the former’s control over the northern parts of India. The agreement was signed between Sir Mortimer Durand, the Indian Foreign Secretary at the time, and Amir Abdur Rahman Khan in Kabul. The line is thus known as the Durand Line, and runs through Pashtun territory.

According to the Durand Line agreement, Afghanistan relinquished a few districts, including Swat, Chitral and Chageh, although it gained other areas, Nuristan and Asmar, for instance, which it had historically not controlled. The agreement, at least on paper, for the first time demarcated where the Indo-Afghan border started and ended. Before the Durand Line agreement, both India and Afghanistan would make incursions into each other’s domain of influence, frequently sparking border tensions.

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In contrast to many historical accounts, Afghanistan did recognize the Durand Line as an international border. Abdur Rahman Khan’s successor, Amir Habibullah Khan, in 1905 signed a new agreement with Britain confirming the legality of the Durand Line. More importantly, article 5 of the Anglo-Afghan Treaty of 1919, on the basis of which Afghanistan reclaimed its independence, says that Afghanistan accepted all previously agreed border arrangements with India. Unlike the previous two agreements, the Anglo-Afghan Treaty was not imposed by Britain. Afghanistan as an independent state agreed to recognize the Durand Line as an international border.

After the founding of Pakistan in 1947, Afghanistan demanded that Pashtuns living on the Pakistani side of the Durand Line be given the right to self-determination. Unsurprisingly, both Britain and Pakistan refused. In response, the Afghan government then began to ignore the Durand Line and instead assert claims over territories that lay between the line and the Indus River.

As a consequence, relations with Pakistan became tense, and this in turn influenced U.S.-Afghan relations in the 1950s and 1960s. Once Pakistan struck an arms deal with the U.S., Kabul realized that the balance of power between Pakistan and Afghanistan had shifted in favor of Pakistan. Hence, in the 1950s Afghanistan, too, approached Washington seeking military assistance and arms sales.

The U.S. demanded that Afghanistan improve its relations with Pakistan and join the Central Treaty Organization (CENTO), of which Pakistan was a founding member, to contain the Soviet Union. Given its location on the Soviet border, Afghanistan declined. In the meantime, Kabul needed modern arms to balance Pakistan’s growing military power. So it turned to the Soviet Union.

Moscow willingly sold arms to Afghanistan and agreed to train Afghan military personnel. As time went by, this dependence on the Soviet Union increased. Estimates show that the Soviet Union gave Afghanistan $2.5 billion in military and economic aid between 1953 and 1978. In addition, thousands of Afghans went to military schools in the Soviet Union between 1953 and 1978—the very officers who staged two coups in 1973 and 1978, paving the way for the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979.

Over the last several decades Afghanistan has suffered enormously from the Durand Line tensions. Afghanistan’s Cold War relations with the former Soviet Union ultimately led to invasion by the Red Army. Pakistan has tried to install a client regime in Kabul. Thousands of terrorists have crossed the Durand Line from Pakistan over the last decade and killed large numbers of Afghans. The Pakistani army has shelled areas in eastern Afghanistan, claiming they were shelling Pakistani territory.

Pakistan has been reluctant to engage honestly with Afghanistan on any issue, from trade to peace talks, because of a lack of trust. The Afghan government loses revenue each year as thousands of people—mainly Afghans—illegally cross the border without a visa, avoiding taxes. Tons of illegal goods are smuggled across the border annually, a further loss for the Afghanistan economy.

Many Afghans still dream—Pashtuns in particular—that one day they might reclaim the territories their forefathers lost between the Durand Line and the Indus River. That, of course, is unrealistic: the country lacks the political, economic and military means to pursue any such claim. At any rate, the 30 million Pakistani Pashtuns would appear to have little motivation to join the 15 million Afghan Pashtuns. For more than half a century, Pashtuns have played significant roles in civilian and military life in Pakistan. Why leave that for a barely functioning Afghanistan?

There are multiple examples of ethnic groups living in two or more countries. Kurds, Balochis, Tajiks, Germans, to name a few, live in two or more countries. Afghans must recognize and embrace the fact that the same ethnic group can live in more than one country.

The new Afghan president taking office in the spring should immediately review Afghanistan’s foreign policy toward Pakistan. The time has come for Afghans to once again recognize the Durand Line as the international border between Afghanistan and Pakistan. Doing so would bring an end to the protracted border dispute with Pakistan, a precondition for real Pakistani cooperation in the Afghan peace process.

Having recognized the Durand Line, Afghanistan should immediately demarcate the border and fence it. This would prevent Taliban incursions and help control both smuggling and illegal flows of people. As an added benefit, the Pakistan military would no longer have the justification to shell Afghan villages once the fences are in place.

Arwin Rahi is a Fulbright fellow at Texas A&M University’s George Bush School of Government and Public Service. He worked as an adviser to the Parwan governor in 2012-13, and has an MA in politics and security from OSCE Academy with a focus on Central Asia and Afghanistan.
http://thediplomat.com/2014/02/why-the-durand-line-matters/

This will shut you up Peshwa.

The Durand line is the legitimate border of Pakistan and Afghanistan.
 
Your deep state is baniye.
There's no denying it.

You add insult to insult. So it was not inadvertent, it was deliberate and meant for what it appeared to be. I am glad that you have decided to be honest, although it took some time.

@war&peace

Here you have your 'decent poster', with his duplicity and his air of innocence gone. I hope you feel proud of yourself.
 
lol, the UN recognizes the Durand line as legitimate border between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

It is not disputed territory like Kashmir is.


Bangladesh was far away to govern by the West Pakistan administration.

Nice try though, but wrong example.

Pakthunkwa will never secede because we are united through Islam.

you just want to see Muslims weak.

Well that is not going to happen.

If the muslims were united, they wouldn't be in the pathetic state they are in to begin with around the world!

The muslim love for ummah is as useless as tits on a bull. Its a feel good factor nothing more! Lets be clear on that.
 
I don't go in details just look at the flags.
That's enough

You don't have to.

But when you ask a question the answer to which is staring you in the face, others will tell you what to do, since you are actually new to the forum.
 
Sure, raise it. The if the Durand line is not legitimate then we will move it closer to Kabul.

Raise it for what?!
Not my circus not my monkey!
Just wanted to point out how separatist movements you mentioned outside of Kashmir in India need not be mentioned similar to how we don't need to mention those plaguing your nation which apparently are illegitimate because you say so!
 
If the muslims were united, they wouldn't be in the pathetic state they are in to begin with around the world!

The muslim love for ummah is as useless as tits on a bull. Its a feel good factor nothing more! Lets be clear on that.
Not as a pathetic state as the Hindus are in today. ;)

Islam is the world's fastest growing religion in the world.

What can Hinduism boast about? ;)
 
Yes. Surprisingly this is a Pakistani forum though there are more Indians active here any given time of the day thanks to your population.

It was not the number of each nationality, it was the decorum and courtesy maintained. Your own individual decorum and courtesy are at rock bottom, and the only reason that you bring up that this is a Pakistani forum is to hide your bad manners behind that flimsy excuse.
 

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