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Pakistan lets China see US helicopter

By Anna Fifield in Washington

Pakistan allowed Chinese military engineers to photograph and take samples from the top-secret stealth helicopter that US special forces left behind when they killed Osama bin Laden, the Financial Times has learnt.

The action is the latest incident to underscore the increasingly complicated relationship and lack of trust between Islamabad and Washington following the raid.




"The US now has information that Pakistan, particularly the ISI, gave access to the Chinese military to the downed helicopter in Abbottabad," said one person in intelligence circles, referring to the Pakistani spy agency. The Chinese engineers were allowed to survey the wreckage and take photographs of it, as well as take samples of the special "stealth" skin that allowed the American team to enter Pakistan undetected by radar, he said.

President Barack Obama's national security council had been discussing this incident and trying to decide how to respond, said the situation “doesn't make us happy”, but the administration had little recourse.

As Navy Seals raided Bin Laden's compound in the military city of Abbottabad, just outside Islamabad, in May, one of their modified Black Hawk helicopters crashed into the wall of the compound, rendering it inoperable.

The Seals used a hammer to smash the instruments then rigged up explosives to detonate it in an effort to keep classified military technology secret, but the tail section landed outside the compound wall and remained intact. John Kerry, chairman of the Senate foreign relations committee, went to Pakistan two weeks after the raid to secure the tail's return.

At the time, Pakistani officials, who were livid that the US carried out the raid without informing Islamabad first, hinted that the Chinese were interested in looking at the wreckage, and photographs of the tail circulated on the internet. But people close to the White House and the Central Intelligence Agency have told the FT that the Chinese were in fact given access to the helicopter.

"We had explicitly asked the Pakistanis in the immediate aftermath of the raid not to let anyone have access to the damaged remains of the helicopter," said the person close to the CIA.

Senior US officials confronted General Ashfaq Kayani, head of the Pakistan military, about this but he flatly denied it, according to a person with knowledge of the meeting. A senior Pakistani official also denied it to the FT. China declined to comment, as did the White House and CIA.

Beijing has a strong military relationship with Islamabad and is a major supplier of weapons to the Pakistani military.

"The Chinese would have enormous interest in this newfangled technology," said the person involved in confronting the Pakistanis. "They [Seals] did not blow the thing up for no reason," he said.

However, the senior government official said it was “hard to say” how useful the information would have been. “Most of the helicopter was virtually destroyed during the operation,” he said.

Are the american so stupid that they expected to violate pakistans sovnty and the expect pakistan to keep their secret. Anyway I think this is another lie from american liars, propaganda to undermine pakistan after all how did they find out
 
Not sure what they can get out of it though (apart from the paint maybe?). Didn't they burn it?
 
Pakistan gave China access to 'stealth' chopper from Bin Laden raid: Report
August 14 2011

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan gave China access to the previously unknown “stealth” helicopter that crashed during the commando raid that killed Osama bin Laden in May despite explicit requests from the CIA not to, the Financial Times reported on Sunday.

The revelation, if confirmed, is likely to further shake the US-Pakistan relationship, which has been improving slightly after hitting its lowest point in decades following the May 2 Bin Laden raid.

During the raid, one of two modified Blackhawk helicopters, believed to employ unknown stealth capability, malfunctioned and crashed, forcing the commandos to abandon it.

“The US now has information that Pakistan, particularly the ISI, gave access to the Chinese military to the downed helicopter in Abbottabad,” the paper quoted a person in intelligence circles as saying.

Pakistan, which enjoys a close relationship with China, allowed Chinese intelligence officials to take pictures of the crashed chopper as well as take samples of its special “skin” that allowed the American raid to evade Pakistani radar, the newspaper reported.

No one from the Pakistani army was available for comment, but the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI), Pakistan’s top spy agency, denied the report. The paper said

Pakistan’s top general, chief of army staff Ashfaq Kayani, denied that China had been given access.

The surviving tail section, photos of which were widely distributed on the Internet, was returned to the United States following a trip by US Senator John Kerry in May, a spokesman for the U.S. embassy told Reuters.

Shortly after the raid, Pakistan hinted that it might give China access to the downed chopper, given its fury over the raid, which it considers a grevious violation of its sovereignty.

“We had explicitly asked the Pakistanis in the immediate aftermath of the raid not to let anyone have access to the damaged remains of the helicopter,” the Financial Times quoted the source as saying.

In an incident such as the helicopter crash, it is standard American procedure to destroy sophisticated technology such as encrypted communications and navigation computers.

Pakistan is a strategic ally to the United States but the relationship has been on a downward spiral since the killing of the al Qaeda leader in the raid by US forces.

Islamabad was not informed in advance and responded by cutting back on US trainers in the country and placing limits on CIA activities there.

In a show of displeasure over Pakistan’s cutback in US trainers, its limits on visas for U.S. personnel and other bilateral irritants, the United States recently had suspended about a third of its $2.7 billion annual defense aid to Pakistan.

Despite this, both sides have tried to prevent a breakdown of relations.

The head of Pakistan’s powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), Lieutenant-General Ahmad Shuja Pasha, visited the United States last month for talks with US government and intelligence officials, which both sides said went well.

Despite the billions in aid, Pakistan still considers China a more reliable ally than the United States.

China is a major investor in predominantly Muslim Pakistan in areas such as telecommunications, ports and infrastructure. The countries are linked by a Chinese-built road pushed through Pakistan’s northern mountains.

Trade with Pakistan is worth almost $9 billion a year for Pakistan, and China is its top arms supplier.

In the wake of attacks that left 11 people dead in the China’s western region of Xinjiang in late July, Pakistan had quickly dispatched Lieutenant-General Pasha to Beijing.

:pakistan::china:
 
Pakistan allowed Chinese military engineers to photograph and take samples from the top-secret stealth helicopter that US special forces left behind when they killed Osama bin Laden, the Financial Times has learnt.

The action is the latest incident to underscore the increasingly complicated relationship and lack of trust between Islamabad and Washington following the raid.

"The US now has information that Pakistan, particularly the ISI, gave access to the Chinese military to the downed helicopter in Abbottabad," said one person in intelligence circles, referring to the Pakistani spy agency. The Chinese engineers were allowed to survey the wreckage and take photographs of it, as well as take samples of the special "stealth" skin that allowed the American team to enter Pakistan undetected by radar, he said.

President Barack Obama's national security council had been discussing this incident and trying to decide how to respond, said the situation “doesn't make us happy”, but the administration had little recourse.

As Navy Seals raided Bin Laden's compound in the military city of Abbottabad, just outside Islamabad, in May, one of their modified Black Hawk helicopters crashed into the wall of the compound, rendering it inoperable.

The Seals used a hammer to smash the instruments then rigged up explosives to detonate it in an effort to keep classified military technology secret, but the tail section landed outside the compound wall and remained intact. John Kerry, chairman of the Senate foreign relations committee, went to Pakistan two weeks after the raid to secure the tail's return.

At the time, Pakistani officials, who were livid that the US carried out the raid without informing Islamabad first, hinted that the Chinese were interested in looking at the wreckage, and photographs of the tail circulated on the internet. But people close to the White House and the Central Intelligence Agency have told the FT that the Chinese were in fact given access to the helicopter.

"We had explicitly asked the Pakistanis in the immediate aftermath of the raid not to let anyone have access to the damaged remains of the helicopter," said the person close to the CIA.

Senior US officials confronted General Ashfaq Kayani, head of the Pakistan military, about this but he flatly denied it, according to a person with knowledge of the meeting. A senior Pakistani official also denied it to the FT. China declined to comment, as did the White House and CIA.

Beijing has a strong military relationship with Islamabad and is a major supplier of weapons to the Pakistani military.

"The Chinese would have enormous interest in this newfangled technology," said the person involved in confronting the Pakistanis. "They [Seals] did not blow the thing up for no reason," he said.

However, the senior government official said it was “hard to say” how useful the information would have been. “Most of the helicopter was virtually destroyed during the operation,” he said.

Pakistan lets China see US helicopter - FT.com
 
Good news very good job iam glad they did nothing wrong with it ;)
 
It is stupid move by US to invade stealth helicopter to the inside of Pakistan and order us not to touch it. "Leave it, giveeee back now....Don't do anything " They hammer us harder by showing worst image of Pakistan more but we survived.

:angry:
 
The Chinese engineers were allowed to survey the wreckage and take photographs of it, as well as take samples of the special "stealth" skin.

That's most important to do job to find it out.

I remember, many of us Pakistanis were outrage when the news came out Helicopter returned back to US after Kerry visited and Chinese didn't access to it.
 
Pakistan gave China access to ‘stealth’ chopper from Bin Laden raid: Report – The Express Tribune

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan gave China access to the previously unknown “stealth” helicopter that crashed during the commando raid that killed Osama bin Laden in May despite explicit requests from the CIA not to, the Financial Times reported on Sunday.

The revelation, if confirmed, is likely to further shake the US-Pakistan relationship, which has been improving slightly after hitting its lowest point in decades following the May 2 Bin Laden raid.

During the raid, one of two modified Blackhawk helicopters, believed to employ unknown stealth capability, malfunctioned and crashed, forcing the commandos to abandon it.

“The US now has information that Pakistan, particularly the ISI, gave access to the Chinese military to the downed helicopter in Abbottabad,” the paper quoted a person in intelligence circles as saying.

Pakistan, which enjoys a close relationship with China, allowed Chinese intelligence officials to take pictures of the crashed chopper as well as take samples of its special “skin” that allowed the American raid to evade Pakistani radar, the newspaper reported.

No one from the Pakistani army was available for comment, but the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI), Pakistan’s top spy agency, denied the report. The paper said

Pakistan’s top general, chief of army staff Ashfaq Kayani, denied that China had been given access.

The surviving tail section, photos of which were widely distributed on the Internet, was returned to the United States following a trip by US Senator John Kerry in May, a spokesman for the U.S. embassy told Reuters.

Shortly after the raid, Pakistan hinted that it might give China access to the downed chopper, given its fury over the raid, which it considers a grevious violation of its sovereignty.

“We had explicitly asked the Pakistanis in the immediate aftermath of the raid not to let anyone have access to the damaged remains of the helicopter,” the Financial Times quoted the source as saying.

In an incident such as the helicopter crash, it is standard American procedure to destroy sophisticated technology such as encrypted communications and navigation computers.

Pakistan is a strategic ally to the United States but the relationship has been on a downward spiral since the killing of the al Qaeda leader in the raid by US forces.

Islamabad was not informed in advance and responded by cutting back on US trainers in the country and placing limits on CIA activities there.

In a show of displeasure over Pakistan’s cutback in US trainers, its limits on visas for U.S. personnel and other bilateral irritants, the United States recently had suspended about a third of its $2.7 billion annual defense aid to Pakistan.

Despite this, both sides have tried to prevent a breakdown of relations.

The head of Pakistan’s powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), Lieutenant-General Ahmad Shuja Pasha, visited the United States last month for talks with US government and intelligence officials, which both sides said went well.

Despite the billions in aid, Pakistan still considers China a more reliable ally than the United States.

China is a major investor in predominantly Muslim Pakistan in areas such as telecommunications, ports and infrastructure. The countries are linked by a Chinese-built road pushed through Pakistan’s northern mountains.

Trade with Pakistan is worth almost $9 billion a year for Pakistan, and China is its top arms supplier.

In the wake of attacks that left 11 people dead in the China’s western region of Xinjiang in late July, Pakistan had quickly dispatched Lieutenant-General Pasha to Beijing
 
Lol looks like the Chinese will study the technology and possibly implement it on there future stealth aircraft programs but any thing they get out of the tail will not be much as the helicopter was blown to bits, the Seals should have torched the helicopter dousing it in gasoline and setting on fire to make sure that leftovers (if any) can't be studied

who knows maybe the Chinese will develop advanced and sophisticated air defenses by studying the stealth technology from the helicopter
 
Lol looks like the Chinese will study the technology and possibly implement it on there future stealth aircraft programs but any thing they get out of the tail will not be much as the helicopter was blown to bits, the Seals should have torched the helicopter dousing it in gasoline and setting on fire to make sure that leftovers (if any) can't be studied

who knows maybe the Chinese will develop advanced and sophisticated air defenses by studying the stealth technology from the helicopter

Oops... bad for u guys... good for us(PAK+CHINA).
 
Another media stunt to pressurize Pakistan. Even if china was given access, what could they have seen in that teen ka dabba. It is like asking some doctor to get the understanding of heart from a skeleton.

On a lighter note: humain to allah ki zameen say mila tha is liay hum jo chahain karen :P
 
I knew it, establishment bari kamini hai is mamlay mien....hehe.... remember cruise missiles...woh bhi tou return ker diye thay ham ne...lakin kuch hi dair baad hamara apna zati indigenous babar cruise aagiya :laugh:
 
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