Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Donatello]

Shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet.
For example, PAF Block-52s come equipped with CFTs.... they are not needed to fly within the country, rather for long range operations beyond Pakistan's borders. !!!

I believe not the entire fleet of 76 or so F-16s is based at Shahbaz....some are still in Sargodha?

 

[Lightning Soul]

I believe not the entire fleet of 76 or so F-16s is based at Shahbaz....some are still in Sargodha?

Sargodha has some MLUed F-16s from CCS Squadron

 

[Windjammer]

I believe not the entire fleet of 76 or so F-16s is based at Shahbaz....some are still in Sargodha?

Sargodha has some MLUed F-16s from CCS Squadron

The two original F-16, 9 and 11 units are based in Sargodha with possibly No 19 also joining them.

 

[fatman17]

The two original F-16, 9 and 11 units are based in Sargodha with possibly No 19 also joining them.

Correct

 

[umair86]

PAF should look into SABR upgrade to the F-16 fleet in the near future cutting edge tech of the F-16 will be obsolete in the coming 5 years or so.

 

[Trailer23]

PAF has 04 Ilyushin Il-78 MRTT (Multi-Role Tanker Transport).

Are they equipped to refuel our F-16's?

 

[Kompromat]

PAF should look into SABR upgrade to the F-16 fleet in the near future cutting edge tech of the F-16 will be obsolete in the coming 5 years or so.

Thanks for "useful" analysis.

 

[Imran Khan]

PAF has 04 Ilyushin Il-78 MRTT (Multi-Role Tanker Transport).

Are they equipped to refuel our F-16's?

no they cant refuel current pakistani f-16s .unless PAF buy Refueling Probe fitted CFTs for F-16

 

[Trailer23]

And i'm guessing the Boeing KC-30 is wayyy out of our budget.

The Aussies have the Boeing KMD-11CF.
http://www.ausairpower.net/PDF-A/AAR-ADF-Issues.pdf

 

[Blue Marlin]

PAF has 04 Ilyushin Il-78 MRTT (Multi-Role Tanker Transport).

Are they equipped to refuel our F-16's?

no only mirage and jf17

 

[nomi007]

 

[IrbiS]

 

[fatman17]

PAF has 04 Ilyushin Il-78 MRTT (Multi-Role Tanker Transport).

Are they equipped to refuel our F-16's?

Nope

 

[MuZammiL Dr. s[1]n]

Hi,

That is not the big deal---. I talked about it years ago that the latest u s air superiority fighter will be doing BVR launches---shoot and scoot---the merge will be a thing of the past and would be avoided at all cost---there was a lots of sarcasm on the board----.

The U S knows that its BVR has a much higher kill ratio at longer distances than the enemy's missiles. Then its electronic counter measures are far superior than anybody else.

Some say that YOU CAN SEE THE F22 BUT YOUR AIRCRAFT IS BLIND TO ITS PRESENSE----RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES---BUT BLIND TO YOUR ELECTRONICS PACKAGE.

I would say the same is true for the F35---. So---your only chance is your gun-----.

not irritating you & others here , but there's an off-topic question that comes often in mind w.r.t. recent indian announcement of getting rafael jets :-

1- Does P.a.f. actually realize the strategic need for acquiring an aircraft to counter indian rafaels ?

2- if yes , then which aircrafts (do you think) for P.a.F are available in reality and suitable for the said purpose ?

The two original F-16, 9 and 11 units are based in Sargodha with possibly No 19 also joining them.

the post given below was stated by mr.Oscar :-

"Its fairly transactional, except in this case the relation is more like a person indebted giving it all up. This "giving" it all up is why there is strict security around the Block-52s that Pakistan has and its upgraded MLUs...down to retina scans.
From what I gathered, any attempt to let even an authorized person near the Block-52 triggers off an Alarm that probably has the US Defence Attaché ringing up the PAF and giving them a stern warning followed up by an investigation into the incident. All clearances have US personnel approval in it.

That is NOT to indicate that these aircraft are handicapped in their usage(which they can be against all enemies east or west of Pakistan save the US and its allies) , but a clear sign that whatever these aircraft carry is sophisticated and advanced enough to warrant it from falling into Chinese hands to be xerox'd."

jammer bro., does your opinion or information on the issue conform to it ?

 

[fatman17]

not irritating you & others here , but there's an off-topic question that comes often in mind w.r.t. recent indian announcement of getting rafael jets :-

1- Does P.a.f. actually realize the strategic need for acquiring an aircraft to counter indian rafaels ?

2- if yes , then which aircrafts (do you think) for P.a.F are available in reality and suitable for the said purpose ?



the post given below was stated by mr.Oscar :-

"Its fairly transactional, except in this case the relation is more like a person indebted giving it all up. This "giving" it all up is why there is strict security around the Block-52s that Pakistan has and its upgraded MLUs...down to retina scans.
From what I gathered, any attempt to let even an authorized person near the Block-52 triggers off an Alarm that probably has the US Defence Attaché ringing up the PAF and giving them a stern warning followed up by an investigation into the incident. All clearances have US personnel approval in it.

That is NOT to indicate that these aircraft are handicapped in their usage(which they can be against all enemies east or west of Pakistan save the US and its allies) , but a clear sign that whatever these aircraft carry is sophisticated and advanced enough to warrant it from falling into Chinese hands to be xerox'd."

jammer bro., does your opinion or information on the issue conform to it ?

Very imaginative sir