Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Trailer23]

Currently working on a new Patch for the PAF.

Q. Could anyone confirm the Powerplant/Engine used on our Block-15's?

Is it the Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-200...?

@airomerix @Hodor @Raider 21

 

[aliyusuf]

Currently working on a new Patch for the PAF.

Q. Could anyone confirm the Powerplant/Engine used on our Block-15's?

Is it the Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-200...?

@airomerix @Hodor @Raider 21

I think the RJAF Block-15s use the better Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-220 and some of our upgraded Block-15s also use this engine. The rest of the upgraded Block15's, I assume, use the original Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-200.

 

[Windjammer]

Painting depicting, Haseeb Paracha and boys escorting a C-130 carrying some very sensitive cargo in May 1998.

 

[Air Wolf]

Aatish bazi ka samaan.

 

[Clairvoyant]

Currently working on a new Patch for the PAF.

Q. Could anyone confirm the Powerplant/Engine used on our Block-15's?

Is it the Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-200...?

@airomerix @Hodor @Raider 21

Initially all F.16s came with F100-PW 200 engine but it was later on upgraded to PW220 so now all block 15's including the ADF's have PW220 installed.

 

[GriffinsRule]

Initially all F.16s came with F100-PW 200 engine but it was later on upgraded to PW220 so now all block 15's including the ADF's have PW220 installed.

Slightly incorrect. All Block 15s where initially powered by The F100-PW-100. US later supplied us kits to upgrade them at various times to first the PW-200 and finally to PW-220E standard in during the MLU. Aside from the kits, 14 new engines were also acquired around that time.

C/Ds of course carry the The F100-PW-229 EEP engine.

 

[adelphi]

Painting depicting, Haseeb Paracha and boys escorting a C-130 carrying some very sensitive cargo in May 1998.

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A bit inaccurate depiction I guess....Remember reading somewhere that escorting F-16s were not armed and orders were to clip off the rudder if C-130 ever tried to deviate from flight path. Also 84715 is showing inflight refueling which was not available in 1998.

 

[Windjammer]

A bit inaccurate depiction I guess....Remember reading somewhere that escorting F-16s were not armed and orders were to clip off the rudder if C-130 ever tried to deviate from flight path. Also 84715 is showing inflight refueling which was not available in 1998.

What was purpose of using F-16 as an escort if they weren't armed and if the intention was just to clip the C-130 then why risk your top line fighter....might as well use an F-6 or K-8.
The marking has always been there if that implies for inflight refuelling.

 

[Clairvoyant]

Slightly incorrect. All Block 15s where initially powered by The F100-PW-100. US later supplied us kits to upgrade them at various times to first the PW-200 and finally to PW-220E standard in during the MLU. Aside from the kits, 14 new engines were also acquired around that time.

C/Ds of course carry the The F100-PW-229 EEP engine.

Dear the PW 100 only powered early F.15's, all F.16s delivered to us were powered by PW 200 engines.

Starting from late 90's all the engines were upgraded to PW220E standard and it happened before the F.16's were upgraded to MLU standard.

For reference kindly read this article from F-16.net.

F-16.net - The ultimate F-16, F-35 and F-22 reference

www.f-16.net

Peace Gate II
The remaining 34 aircraft were delivered under Peace Gate II. The Pakistani F-16A/B's are all Block 15 aircraft, the final version of the F-16A/B production run, and are powered by the Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-200 turbofan. All 40 'Peace Gate I & II' aircraft were delivered between 1983 and 1987. By 1997, 8 aircraft of the initial Peace Gate I & II order have been written off in various mishaps, hence 32 remain in service and despite the embargo, caused by the Pakistan-specific Pressler Amendment (see below), are being fully supported by commercial contracts.

 

[adelphi]

What was purpose of using F-16 as an escort if they weren't armed and if the intention was just to clip the C-130 then why risk your top line fighter....might as well use an F-6 or K-8.
The marking has always been there if that implies for inflight refuelling.

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Can't remember where I read it, could be Kaisar Tufail's blog or global security forum. I'll try to find the link. Probably the CAP was armed but not escorting F-16s. Anyways it could be part of deliberate effort to mislead due to security reasons. I also remember reports where railway was mentioned as mode of transport.

 

[SQ8]

Can't remember where I read it, could be Kaisar Tufail's blog or global security forum. I'll try to find the link. Probably the CAP was armed but not escorting F-16s. Anyways it could be part of deliberate effort to mislead due to security reasons. I also remember reports where railway was mentioned as mode of transport.

F-16’s were armed and had strict orders to blow the C-130 out of the sky if it tried to divert or if there were other aerial assets in the sky.

 

[GriffinsRule]

Dear the PW 100 only powered early F.15's, all F.16s delivered to us were powered by PW 200 engines.

Starting from late 90's all the engines were upgraded to PW220E standard and it happened before the F.16's were upgraded to MLU standard.

For reference kindly read this article from F-16.net.

F-16.net - The ultimate F-16, F-35 and F-22 reference

www.f-16.net

Peace Gate II
The remaining 34 aircraft were delivered under Peace Gate II. The Pakistani F-16A/B's are all Block 15 aircraft, the final version of the F-16A/B production run, and are powered by the Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-200 turbofan. All 40 'Peace Gate I & II' aircraft were delivered between 1983 and 1987. By 1997, 8 aircraft of the initial Peace Gate I & II order have been written off in various mishaps, hence 32 remain in service and despite the embargo, caused by the Pakistan-specific Pressler Amendment (see below), are being fully supported by commercial contracts.

Ah you are right. The initial upgrade was from 200 to 220 engines (OCU standard) and then to 220E.

 

[Raja Porus]

 

[wasileo80]

A bit inaccurate depiction I guess....Remember reading somewhere that escorting F-16s were not armed and orders were to clip off the rudder if C-130 ever tried to deviate from flight path. Also 84715 is showing inflight refueling which was not available in 1998.

Each F-16 was armed with 4 AAMs during escorting C130s to Dalbenden Airfield.

 

[arjunk]

A bit inaccurate depiction I guess....Remember reading somewhere that escorting F-16s were not armed and orders were to clip off the rudder if C-130 ever tried to deviate from flight path. Also 84715 is showing inflight refueling which was not available in 1998.

Each F-16 was instructed to not deviate from the flight path in ANY circumstances after takeoff. Their radios were switched off, so that after takeoff, no order could be given to stop them. They were armed with 4 air to air missiles.