Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Trailer23]

Here are some unseen images - courtesy of the new song: Mera Junoon

No. 19 Squadron (Sherdils)

No. 11 Squadron (Arrows) - 82604

No. 11 Squadron (Arrows) - 82604

No. 11 Squadron (Arrows) - 85610

No. 9 Squadron (Griffins)

@Hodor @Windjammer @Raider 21 @airomerix

 

[Clairvoyant]

Here are some unseen images - courtesy of the new song: Mera Junoon

No. 19 Squadron (Sherdils)
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No. 11 Squadron (Arrows) - 82604View attachment 661145

No. 11 Squadron (Arrows) - 82604
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No. 11 Squadron (Arrows) - 85610
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No. 9 Squadron (Griffins)
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@Hodor @Windjammer @Raider 21 @airomerix

First one is a screen grab from ISAC 2019 video.

 

[Trailer23]

First one is a screen grab from ISAC 2019 video.

Must've missed that earlier.

Even the Arrows footage is pretty old as it has the old livery, but never used in any promotional video in the past.

 

[Raider 21]

Here are some unseen images - courtesy of the new song: Mera Junoon

No. 19 Squadron (Sherdils)
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No. 11 Squadron (Arrows) - 82604View attachment 661145

No. 11 Squadron (Arrows) - 82604
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No. 11 Squadron (Arrows) - 85610
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No. 9 Squadron (Griffins)
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@Hodor @Windjammer @Raider 21 @airomerix

Thanks for the screenshots. Glad to see these rather than listen to the songs, they are becoming boring.

 

[Clairvoyant]

Thanks for the screenshots. Glad to see these rather than listen to the songs, they are becoming boring.

I watched it on mute,they seriously need to stop making new songs and should just concentrate on releasing new footage without music.

 

[Talon]

2 ship line up,ready for takeoff.. notice the centre line of both aircrafts

Photo source Instagram

 

[Raider 21]

2 ship line up,ready for takeoff.. notice the centre line of both aircrafts

Photo source Instagram

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That photographer has a great page filled with excellent shots.

 

[Raider 21]

I watched it on mute,they seriously need to stop making new songs and should just concentrate on releasing new footage without music.

B-roll footage or make documentaries without music at least.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

If Pakistan purchased these we can kill three birds with one stone here. Turkey happy, Pakistan happy, US happy, Saudi happy.

"But since then, U.S. officials have grown concerned that the Iraqis are not making use of the sophisticated technology. Mulroy said during his time at the Pentagon there were discussions about potentially selling the F-16s secondhand to another party. "

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/30/f16-jets-us-concerned-iran-backed-militias-iraq-threat/

I second this idea. I don't think anything would please the PAF more than accessing -- and then upgrading -- the Iraqi birds. The PAF can get to its original Block-50/52 ASR of 50-55 aircraft.

We might need to grease the wheels a bit by offering to buy 1 or 2 squadrons of new-built Block-72s, but IMHO, the PAF will oblige as it would cost less vs. an entirely new aircraft.

 

[mingle]

I second this idea. I don't think anything would please the PAF more than accessing -- and then upgrading -- the Iraqi birds. The PAF can get to its original Block-50/52 ASR of 50-55 aircraft.

We might need to grease the wheels a bit by offering to buy 1 or 2 squadrons of new-built Block-72s, but IMHO, the PAF will oblige as it would cost less vs. an entirely new aircraft.

Not sure but new blk 70 sold by DOD to Morocco and Taiwan total 90 jetts they called first trench from 62 billion line of credit 4.9 billion 66 blk 70 to Taiwan and 24 to Morocco used ones not worth it when you have upgraded them as well its 2.5 billion for 45 new jets or 800 million to one Sqd 18 jetts PAF should go new one when US airforce saying they will produce 400 jetts with 62 billions line of credit new jetts are cheap than these used Iraqi ones

 

[Ali_Baba]

Interesting idea, but the politics are quite insurmountable for Pakistan for anything that has the words "F16s" ...

How much of an upgrade would they need to be bought up to PAF standard? They do have the same radar as PAF Block 52, so that is good.

Poor Iraqi AF was only allowed Sparrows..

https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/iraq-f-16-aircraft

 

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[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Interesting idea, but the politics are quite insurmountable for Pakistan for anything that has the words "F16s" ...

How much of an upgrade would they need to be bought up to PAF standard? They do have the same radar as PAF Block 52, so that is good.

Poor Iraqi AF was only allowed Sparrows..

https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/iraq-f-16-aircraft

IIRC the IqAF F-16s are near-identical to the PAF's Block-52+. However, it wouldn't matter much as the PAF would look to upgrade these (and its own) birds to the F-16V-standard.

 

[Yasser76]

Interesting idea, but the politics are quite insurmountable for Pakistan for anything that has the words "F16s" ...

How much of an upgrade would they need to be bought up to PAF standard? They do have the same radar as PAF Block 52, so that is good.

Poor Iraqi AF was only allowed Sparrows..

https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/iraq-f-16-aircraft

Interesting idea, but the politics are quite insurmountable for Pakistan for anything that has the words "F16s" ...

How much of an upgrade would they need to be bought up to PAF standard? They do have the same radar as PAF Block 52, so that is good.

Poor Iraqi AF was only allowed Sparrows..

https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/iraq-f-16-aircraft

F-16s are similar standard, may need small software changes to fire AMRAAM.