Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[mdmm]

Kindly put opinion .Is it true that USA is now ready to give 36 new F-16 upgraded jet fighters to Pakistan ??
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Pakistan to Get 36 Latest F-16 Jets & Upgrade Old F-16s
Posted 7 hours ago by Sajawal Rehman
https://propakistani.pk/2019/12/18/pakistan-to-get-36-latest-f-16-jets-upgrade-old-f-16s/
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"" Pakistan had bought a $5.1 billion Military Sales Package from the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) in 2006, however, the deal didn’t go through completely due to the 2005 Earthquake, however, it is now going through with Pakistan set to get 36 F-16C/D Block 50/52 with modern APG-68(V)9 radars.""
https://timesofislamabad.com/18-Dec...ghter-jets-from-us-upgrade-the-existing-fleet

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Kindly put opinion .Is it true that USA is now ready to give 36 new F-16 upgraded jet fighters to Pakistan ??
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Pakistan to Get 36 Latest F-16 Jets & Upgrade Old F-16s
Posted 7 hours ago by Sajawal Rehman
https://propakistani.pk/2019/12/18/pakistan-to-get-36-latest-f-16-jets-upgrade-old-f-16s/
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"" Pakistan had bought a $5.1 billion Military Sales Package from the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) in 2006, however, the deal didn’t go through completely due to the 2005 Earthquake, however, it is now going through with Pakistan set to get 36 F-16C/D Block 50/52 with modern APG-68(V)9 radars.""
https://timesofislamabad.com/18-Dec...ghter-jets-from-us-upgrade-the-existing-fleet

No. These news reports (Times of Islamabad, ProPakistani) are way off.

The only current F-16 program is the security team contract ($ 9 m with a total value of up to $100 m over the duration of the program). The other stuff -- i.e., 36 F-16s, upgrading older F-16s, etc -- is all old information from the F-16 program in 2005, which was completed years ago.

 

[jupiter2007]

Kindly put opinion .Is it true that USA is now ready to give 36 new F-16 upgraded jet fighters to Pakistan ??
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Pakistan to Get 36 Latest F-16 Jets & Upgrade Old F-16s
Posted 7 hours ago by Sajawal Rehman
https://propakistani.pk/2019/12/18/pakistan-to-get-36-latest-f-16-jets-upgrade-old-f-16s/
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"" Pakistan had bought a $5.1 billion Military Sales Package from the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) in 2006, however, the deal didn’t go through completely due to the 2005 Earthquake, however, it is now going through with Pakistan set to get 36 F-16C/D Block 50/52 with modern APG-68(V)9 radars.""
https://timesofislamabad.com/18-Dec...ghter-jets-from-us-upgrade-the-existing-fleet

Fake news, no confirmation from Defense attaché Pakistan Embbacy DC.

 

[airomerix]

No such deal has taken place except a team from US is set to work on our current F-16s for their sustainment needs. The work will be completed by June 2020.

This will bring our F-16 mission capability rate at 90%+ for at least a year.

 

[Ghessan]

I usually refer to this website for PAF F-16 info and the news is here

https://www.defenseindustrydaily.co...es-upgrades-weapons-for-pakistans-f16s-02396/

Updated 18 dec 2019

it says in the link: The Government of Pakistan has requested a possible sale of up to 36 F-16C/D Block 50/52

aircraft – a buy of 18 jets, with an option for another 18. The planes would be equipped with the APG-68(V)9 radars, which are the most modern F-16 radar except for the UAE’s F-16E/F Block 60 “Desert Falcons” and their AN/APG-80 AESA.

if this true when there is an AESA radar available currently?

 

[ziaulislam]

it says in the link: The Government of Pakistan has requested a possible sale of up to 36 F-16C/D Block 50/52

aircraft – a buy of 18 jets, with an option for another 18. The planes would be equipped with the APG-68(V)9 radars, which are the most modern F-16 radar except for the UAE’s F-16E/F Block 60 “Desert Falcons” and their AN/APG-80 AESA.

if this true when there is an AESA radar available currently?

For heavens sake ...this is fake news..
Forget about new..uncle sam wont even let old obsolete f16s that we want

 

[Ghessan]

For heavens sake ...this is fake news..
Forget about new..uncle sam wont even let old obsolete f16s that we want

yeah! i know this particular news is fake

 

[WiderMan]

@WiderMan
Whose account is this???

https://twitter.com/x/status/1206851088399421440

I wouldn't know

 

[Silicon0000]

Pakistan to Get 36 Latest F-16 Jets & Upgrade Old F-16s
Posted 1 hour ago by Sajawal Rehman

https://propakistani.pk/2019/12/18/pakistan-to-get-36-latest-f-16-jets-upgrade-old-f-16s/
Pakistan Air Force (PAF) is all set to upgrade its F-16 program with technical assistance and possibly 36 advanced fighter jets from the United States.

Booz Allen Hamilton Inc. has won a fixed-price $9.1 million contract for technical security team support services for Pakistan’s F-16 program, according to the United States Department of Defense. On the official website, it wrote:

Booz Allen Hamilton Inc., McLean, Virginia, has been awarded a not-to-exceed $9,111,111 predominantly firm-fixed-price undefinitized contract to provide technical security team support services in support of the Pakistan F-16 program.

According to the details, the deadline for the project is set as 18 June 2020 and all the work will be done in Pakistan.

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“This award is the result of a sole-source acquisition. Foreign military sales funds of $4,464,444 are being obligated at the time of the award”, states the Defense Department’s contracts list for 16 December 2019.

Billions have already been spent on Pakistan’s top of the line fighters ever since the induction of Block 15 F-16A/B configuration in PAF in 1982.

Pakistan had bought a $5.1 billion Military Sales Package from the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) in 2006, however, the deal didn’t go through completely due to the 2005 Earthquake, however, it is now going through with Pakistan set to get 36 F-16C/D Block 50/52 with modern APG-68(V)9 radars.

The package for new F-16s includes:

• 7 spare F100-PW-229 EEP engines
• 7 spare APG-68(V)9 radar sets
• 36 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS)
• 36 AN/ARC-238 SINCGARS radios with HAVE QUICK I/II
• 36 Conformal Fuel Tanks
• 36 Link-16 Multifunctional Information Distribution System-Low Volume Terminals
• 36 GPS and Embedded GPS/Inertial Navigation Systems
• 36 APX-113 Advanced Identification Friend or Foe Systems
• 36 Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suites: ALQ-211 AIDEW without Digital Radio Frequency Memory (picked); or AN/ALQ-184 Electronic Counter Measures pod without DRFM; or AN/ALQ-131 Electronic Counter Measures pod without DRFM; or AN/ALQ-187 Advanced Self-Protection Integrated Suites without DRFM; or AN/ALQ-178 Self-Protection Electronic Warfare Suites without DRFM.
• 1 Unit Level Trainer

In addition, associated support equipment will also be a part of the deal. A $650 million deal for advanced weaponry for new F-16s will also take place and it will include: 500 AIM-120C5 AMRAAM, 12 AMRAAM training missile, 200 AIM-9M-8/9 Sidewinder Short-Range Air-Air Missiles, 240 LAU-129/A Launchers, 500 GBU-31/38 Guided Bomb Unit (GBU) kits, 600 Enhanced Paveway GBU-12 and GBU-24s, 800 MK-82 500 pound and MK-84 2,000 pound GP bombs and 700 BLU-109 2,000-pound bunker-buster.

Pakistan has also expressed its desire to purchase the Mid-Life Upgrade (MLU) Program equipment for PAF’s F-16A/B fighter aircraft for $1.3 billion whereas another $151 million will be spent on F-16 A/B Engine Modifications and Falcon UP/STAR Structural Upgrades.

Kindly put opinion .Is it true that USA is now ready to give 36 new F-16 upgraded jet fighters to Pakistan ??
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Pakistan to Get 36 Latest F-16 Jets & Upgrade Old F-16s
Posted 7 hours ago by Sajawal Rehman
https://propakistani.pk/2019/12/18/pakistan-to-get-36-latest-f-16-jets-upgrade-old-f-16s/
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"" Pakistan had bought a $5.1 billion Military Sales Package from the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) in 2006, however, the deal didn’t go through completely due to the 2005 Earthquake, however, it is now going through with Pakistan set to get 36 F-16C/D Block 50/52 with modern APG-68(V)9 radars.""
https://timesofislamabad.com/18-Dec...ghter-jets-from-us-upgrade-the-existing-fleet

Old 2006 news, based article. equivalent to fake.

 

[Windjammer]

 

[Trailer23]

Funny thing, KhafeeLeaks topic on the F-16 Block 70/72 somehow got Unblocked for just 01 Post, only to have the prehistoric article from the stone-ages posted there.

But hey, we're instead getting Block 52's now .

Only problem is Lockheed Martin doesn't make those jets anymore, but hey, we're still getting Block 52's .

 

[StormBreaker]

Funny thing, KhafeeLeaks topic on the F-16 Block 70/72 somehow got Unblocked for just 01 Post, only to have the prehistoric article from the stone-ages posted there.

But hey, we're instead getting Block 52's now .

Only problem is Lockheed Martin doesn't make those jets anymore, but hey, we're still getting Block 52's .

I went through the original source site and noticed that the site maintains a full log of similar discussion on a country in same page, propakistani might have mistaken whole page for a single article...

I wouldn't know

Lol

 

[aliyusuf]

I went through the original source site and noticed that the site maintains a full log of similar discussion on a country in same page, propakistani might have mistaken whole page for a single article...


Lol

A little care should have been shown in sharing this ProPakistani site content. It actually did more damage to @Khafee Sahib's narrative then help. It's like when a defense witness turns out to be a dud. It weakens the defense's case.

 

[StormBreaker]

A little care should have been shown in sharing this ProPakistani site content. It actually did more damage to @Khafee Sahib's narrative then help. It's like when a defense witness turns out to be a dud. It weakens the defense's case.

I agree, I didn’t do a research on it back from the source article And while posting, i as well quoted the whole article to be incorrect/misinformed.

But getting more F-16s is inevitable, anyone who denies will definitely jump in joy when they receive the deal news.
Besides, some people on this forum as well confirmed it to be a situation above, like mr Tipi who suggested that we are interested in 72 not 70.

And one day, PDF will rewatch the thread about Sir Khafee when the deal actually materialize

InshaAllah

 

[Akh1112]

I dont understand where this rumor originated from, the article cited clearly is a combination of older articles and then an update. Those upgrades stated had already been installed. Anyway, it makes no sense for Pakistan to go for the F16V/Blk 70, they are absurdly expensive, Looking at the past deals, Bulgaria's Vipers costed them upwards of 1.6 Billion for 5 fighters! of course this includes many other things too, training, equipment, weapons, pods etc, the ecosystem needed for such a fighter, this brings the per unit cost to $340 MILLION! it is absurd, that is the reported cost of 10 thunder block 3's, similar in capability based off of the reported specsheet, the Viper is the wrong way to go, full stop. Hell, even Bahrain's Vipers were expensive, $150 MILLION PER UNIT!