Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[gambit]

That's why i was confused as well Because on some F-16s it is a clear 'long rod' and on some not. Just like the long pitot ADS on the mig-21s.

Boeing 707/720s had a pitot on the tail fin.

You better take closer look at whatever pictures you saw. There are no 'long rods' on the F-16 worldwide fleet. All of them are pitot probes, or tubes, however anyone want to call the device.

 

[Donatello]

You better take closer look at whatever pictures you saw. There are no 'long rods' on the F-16 worldwide fleet. All of them are pitot probes, or tubes, however anyone want to call the device.

Hi,

That is what i meant. That the 'long rod' thing is actually the pitot. Plus, pitot is a hollow cylinder anyway, since it works by that design.

However, what i meant was, that some have appeared to be shorter than others. Maybe it was the angle of the photograph.

 

[RAMPAGE]

It was a pleasure doing business with you.

Thank you Turkey and TAI !!!

 

[dexter]

Amazingly, the following ten aircraft types account for 67% of the total 14,788 combat aircraft currently in active use around the globe.

F-16 is at the top.

 

[nomi007]

Rolling out ceremony of Pakistani modern F-16ss at TAI (Turkish aerospace industries )

Long Live PAK-TURK Friendship

 

[dexter]

PAF have now All 45 A/B converted to MLU

MLU upgrade consist of

1. APG-68(V)9 with Synthetic aperture radars
2. Joint Helmet Mounted Cuing System JHMCS
3. AN/APX-113 Advanced Identify Friend or Foe Systems
4. AN/ALE-47 Advanced Countermeasures Dispenser Systems
5. Have Quick I/II Radios
6. Link-16 Multifunctional Information Distribution System-Low Volume Terminal
7. SNIPER (formerly known as AN/AAQ-33 PANTERA) targeting pods
8. Advanced Air Combat Maneuvering Instrumentation Units; MDE included in the MLU modification and structural upgrade kits
9. 21 ALQ-131 Block II Electronic Countermeasures Pods without the Digital Radio Frequency
10. Memory (DRFM) or ALQ-184 Electronic Countermeasures Pods without DRFM;
11. 60 ALQ-213 Electronic Warfare Management Systems
12. 1 Unit Level Trainer and
13. 10 APG-68(V)9 spare radar sets
14. F100-PW-220E engines external link
15. Falcon UP/STAR F-16 structural upgrade kits

De-modification and preparation of 26 aircraft
Support equipment, software development/integration, modification kits, spares and repair parts, flight test instrumentation, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor technical and logistics personnel services, and other related requirements to support the program.

 

[syed_yusuf]

Will paf for mlu on ex Jordanian 13 examples?

 

[thrilainmanila]

does PAF have AMRAAMs?

 

[Viper0011.]

Will paf for mlu on ex Jordanian 13 examples?

No need to MLU those 13 jets. They are the ADF version and they came with provisions for AMRAAMs and associated radar upgrades. They should ideally be used as interceptors.

 

[Luftwaffe]

No need to MLU those 13 jets. They are the ADF version and they came with provisions for AMRAAMs and associated radar upgrades. They should ideally be used as interceptors.

According to reputed f-16.net

Pakistan Air Force F-16

When deliveries started in May of 2014 is was obvious that the order compromised the Jordanian airframes of the Peace Falcon I order. Three of those crashed over the years with 13 of them remaining. Although only one B-models was announced with the first delivery already 2 were on the tarmac and the other 2 followed soon. So now it is obvious that the order compromised 9 A-models and 4 B-models in the ADF version. These airframes haven't been upgraded to MLU standard. With Pakistan upgrading all its older A/B models to the MLU standard it would seem obvious that these airframes will also be upgraded accordingly. The future will tell us whether this will come to fruition.

 

[Kompromat]

No need to MLU those 13 jets. They are the ADF version and they came with provisions for AMRAAMs and associated radar upgrades. They should ideally be used as interceptors.

Right now the new ADF F-16 Sq is being used for young pilots coming from the F-7P/PG and Mirage III/V squadrons after racking up 250-300 hours to get transferred onto the F-16s and to finally achieve operational status.

 

[Viper0011.]

According to reputed f-16.net

I see where you are going with this. The MLU is an entire package but here, the term is being used for Structural / Airframe upgrades, which essentially means UP/STAR upgrade package for the airframe. If you see a few posts above, there is a list of the entire MLU package to bring up the Block 16 capability to Block 40, there are many other upgrades that happen within the MLU.
But since these jets already have upgraded Radars and provisions for AMRAAMs, I can't imagine why cash starved PAF would want to spend millions in getting these upgraded beyond UP/STAR. That would give the airframe a LOT more life but will keep the cost way down. These jets can be real important assets for Escort and Interception. The additional $$$ can go towards the JFT or towards acquiring more used -16's.

 

[Donatello]

I see where you are going with this. The MLU is an entire package but here, the term is being used for Structural / Airframe upgrades, which essentially means UP/STAR upgrade package for the airframe. If you see a few posts above, there is a list of the entire MLU package to bring up the Block 16 capability to Block 40, there are many other upgrades that happen within the MLU.
But since these jets already have upgraded Radars and provisions for AMRAAMs, I can't imagine why cash starved PAF would want to spend millions in getting these upgraded beyond UP/STAR. That would give the airframe a LOT more life but will keep the cost way down. These jets can be real important assets for Escort and Interception. The additional $$$ can go towards the JFT or towards acquiring more used -16's.

Do they have the APG68?

 

[Luftwaffe]

Do they have the APG68?

I believe APG-66/A

 

[fatman17]

TAI Delivers Last Four Upgraded Pakistan AF F-16A/Bs
September 2nd, 2014
TURKISH AEROSPACE Industries (TAI) has delivered the last four of 41 Pakistan Air Force (PAF) F-16s to be upgraded under […]