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[fatman17]

TURKISH FIRM MODERNIZES PAKISTAN'S JETS

• AA
• Published : 01.09.2014 23:47:34

ANKARA — Turkish Aerospace Industries has modernized the last four of Pakistan's F-16 fighter jets, completing a five-year contract. The remaining four aircraft will be handed over in a ceremony in Ankara on Tuesday. The company, known by the acronym TUSAŞ, signed a contract with Pakistan's Ministry of Defense in 2009. Under the program, Turkish technicians were to upgrade and test 41 aircraft. The first of the planes were delivered two years ago. TUSAŞ began co-producing U.S.-designed F-16s for the Turkish Air Force in 1984 and is one of the world's main aerospace companies involved in F-16 manufacture and modernization.

It has also upgraded the Royal Jordanian Air Force's F-16s. In a related development, fighter jets from Turkey and Pakistan joined a joint military exercise in central Turkey's Konya that started yesterday. The exercise is part of Turkey's year-long Anatolian Eagle exercise that brings together fighter jet pilots from different countries.

 

[nomi007]

 

[Windjammer]

Now i can count on PAF's newly acquired powerful punch.

Including the Block-52s, we basically now have around 75 F-16s with BVR capability and off course the JF-17s and the PGs.....no wonder the attitude is.....bring it on. !!

 

[gambit]

See that pitot probe ?

If the jet is low/empty fuel there will be a slight upward tilt of the nose due to engine weight. If a man is not careful and walks into the uncovered probe, it will gouge some length into his scalp.

If the jet is fully fueled and even with external stores, if a man is not careful and walks into the uncovered probe, it will stab him straight in. He could lose an eye at worst, or have a bloody round circle on his head/face at best.

Either way, maintenance will have to replace, not clean, the probe. There may be small indents on the probe's opening that may give slight false air data info, and for today's pitch unstable and FBW jets, incorrect/inconsistent air data inputs could cause a crash.

Photos

...inspects a pitot tube on an F-16 Fighting Falcon for dents...

The probe that made collision with the human head will be sent back to the manufacturer for the reconditioning process. The guy that walked into the probe will most likely have a new nickname.

 

[SQ8]

See that pitot probe ?

If the jet is low/empty fuel there will be a slight upward tilt of the nose due to engine weight. If a man is not careful and walks into the uncovered probe, it will gouge some length into his scalp.

If the jet is fully fueled and even with external stores, if a man is not careful and walks into the uncovered probe, it will stab him straight in. He could lose an eye at worst, or have a bloody round circle on his head/face at best.

Either way, maintenance will have to replace, not clean, the probe. There may be small indents on the probe's opening that may give slight false air data info, and for today's pitch unstable and FBW jets, incorrect/inconsistent air data inputs could cause a crash.

Photos

The probe that made collision with the human head will be sent back to the manufacturer for the reconditioning process. The guy that walked into the probe will most likely have a new nickname.

How frequenty does(if it does) the FLCS on the viper calculate the CG of the airplane? The various Cat I,II,III modes aside, the release of weapons and consumption of fuel has its effects on it.

 

[shanis]

Now i can count on PAF's newly acquired powerful punch.

aallllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[JonAsad]

Pics of the 4 birds?-

 

[shanis]

its Mean now we have all

Its mean now we have all our F-16's jets upgrades to Mlu(Mid life)
Mlu mean block 50/52+ ?

 

[gambit]

How frequenty does(if it does) the FLCS on the viper calculate the CG of the airplane? The various Cat I,II,III modes aside, the release of weapons and consumption of fuel has its effects on it.

Basically -- all the time. But more precisely: whenever the gyros and accelerometers senses displacements.

It is a closed loop...

The block that says 'Motion sensor' represents the gyros and accelerometers.

Stick inputs go to the FLCC, which initially 'guess' how much displacement voltage to the hydraulics, the gyros and accelerometers provides actual aircraft response which includes external influences such as turbulence, the FLCC then compares stick inputs with aircraft response and recalculate the displacement voltage. This loop is constantly in play for as long as the aircraft is in flight. Center of gravity contributes to what the gyros and accelerometers senses.

For a FBW FLCS, just remove all the mechanical linkages. The loop is still the same. We would have just three lines:

- 'electrical signal' which comes from pilot command,
- 'electrical command signal' which go to the hydraulics,
- and the 'Motion sensor' and 'Aircraft Motion' blocks provides actual aircraft response.

 

[gambit]

Here is an example of what the 'swing wing' design does to CG...

General Dynamics F-111 AARDVARK/PIG

The idea of variable geometry wings was not new. However, early attempts had both wings pivot from the middle of the fuselage. This did not work well because swinging the wing back and forth produced major changes in the center of gravity and the center of pressure. The Bell X-5 first faced this problem. Its wings pivoted out from a point in the center of the fuselage. This pivot point was mounted on a 27-inch rail. When the wings swung back, the pivot point was moved forward on the rail. When the wings swung forward, the pivot point was moved back on the rail. This worked, but the arrangement was too complex and heavy to be useful in future designs.

The F-111 has a computer assisted mechanical FLCS, complete with 3 FLCCs: pitch, roll, and yaw, three gyros for the three axes, and two accelerometers. That 1950s technology was able to compensate for CG changes whenever the pilot command wing sweeps.

 

[nomi007]

hope paf will also consider aesa radar for newly f-16s

 

[Zarvan]

Pakistan Air Force, has received the last batch of 4 upgraded F-16 Multi-role Fighter Aircraft's. 46 of these aircraft's have been upgraded to the Block-52 standards by the Turkish Aerospace Industries. This upgrade package offers a major boost to PAF's combat capabilities.

Tags : ‪#‎PAF‬ ‪#‎Block52‬ ‪#‎Pakistan‬ ‪#‎Turkey‬ ‪#‎F16‬

‪#‎MilitaryIntelligence‬
So it means all of our older F-16 are now fully upgraded am I right ? @Horus @Oscar @Fulcrum15 @fatman17

 

[shanis]

hope paf will also consider aesa radar for newly f-16s

no i dont think so ... Pakistan consider AESA radar in JF-17 thunder block 2 or 3 ... because thunder is our future and we have to make our future strong healthy powerful ...

Pakistan Air Force, has received the last batch of 4 upgraded F-16 Multi-role Fighter Aircraft's. 46 of these aircraft's have been upgraded to the Block-52 standards by the Turkish Aerospace Industries. This upgrade package offers a major boost to PAF's combat capabilities.

Tags : ‪#‎PAF‬ ‪#‎Block52‬ ‪#‎Pakistan‬ ‪#‎Turkey‬ ‪#‎F16‬

‪#‎MilitaryIntelligence‬
So it means all of our older F-16 are now fully upgraded am I right ? @Horus @Oscar @Fulcrum15 @fatman17

yup you are right bro ....

 

[Zarvan]

Including the Block-52s, we basically now have around 75 F-16s with BVR capability and off course the JF-17s and the PGs.....no wonder the attitude is.....bring it on. !!

Now I am waiting desperately for JF-17 Thunder BLOCK II to come up

 

[shanis]

Now I am waiting desperately for JF-17 Thunder BLOCK II to come up

Mee tooooo