Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Side-Winder]

hope paf will also consider aesa radar for newly f-16s

Not in near future atleast

 

[Neptune]

According to Piece Drive 2 Program which was signed in 2009, TAI modernised last 4 F-16 A/Bs for Pakistan Air Force.
The program started in 2010 with 3 aircraft which were sent to TAI’s Kazan/Ankara facilities. During the 41 aircraft program, TAI modified 1323 parts in each F-16 which takes around 6 months.

TAI also trained Pakistan Air Force staff for maintenance and program updates. With the Project, TAI totally finished 3 big F-16 up-grade programs including Turkey and Jordan.

TAI aims to be grown in modernisation projects. At the moment TAI is on delivery period for Turkish Air Force’s C-130E and T-38 modernisation.

TURKEY AND PAKISTAN JOIN ON TUSAB RAIDERS EXERCISE

Turkey and Pakistan extend aviation relations also with war games. Starting today in Konya Anatolian Eagle Training Centre, total 6 Pakistan F-16 and 27 Turkish F-16’s 2 AS532 SAR helicopters and one E737 will fly until the 12th of September.

Credit: @xxxKULxxx

 

[SQ8]

Here is an example of what the 'swing wing' design does to CG...

General Dynamics F-111 AARDVARK/PIG

The F-111 has a computer assisted mechanical FLCS, complete with 3 FLCCs: pitch, roll, and yaw, three gyros for the three axes, and two accelerometers. That 1950s technology was able to compensate for CG changes whenever the pilot command wing sweeps.

On a side note as someone with flightline maintenance time, this was an odd problem that came up for PAF F-16s and AGM-65s a couple of years ago.

On two separate occasions, one each AGM 65B has followed an abnormal flight path after launch. Once it rolled over the launching aircraft and went down to the ground. The second time it followed at consistent left turn till it exploded behind the aircraft. In both the cases, the video indicated a good lock by the pilot.
We have completed all inspections and TCTOs of this AGM variant. Still cannot pin point the problem. Pl identify likely causes.

 

[Donatello]

See that pitot probe ?

If the jet is low/empty fuel there will be a slight upward tilt of the nose due to engine weight. If a man is not careful and walks into the uncovered probe, it will gouge some length into his scalp.

If the jet is fully fueled and even with external stores, if a man is not careful and walks into the uncovered probe, it will stab him straight in. He could lose an eye at worst, or have a bloody round circle on his head/face at best.

Either way, maintenance will have to replace, not clean, the probe. There may be small indents on the probe's opening that may give slight false air data info, and for today's pitch unstable and FBW jets, incorrect/inconsistent air data inputs could cause a crash.

Photos

The probe that made collision with the human head will be sent back to the manufacturer for the reconditioning process. The guy that walked into the probe will most likely have a new nickname.

Why is there a pitot on the nose cone? Doesn't the f-16s have pitots behind the nose cone, mounted on fuselage, on the side?

 

[SQ8]

Why is there a pitot on the nose cone? Doesn't the f-16s have pitots behind the nose cone, mounted on fuselage, on the side?

Depends on the model.

 

[Jango]

Not a specific PAF question but what is the purpose of that cylindrical thing in the middle of the engine exhaust?

 

[SQ8]

Not a specific PAF question but what is the purpose of that cylindrical thing in the middle of the engine exhaust?

Now you know

 

[Jango]

Now you know

After burner?

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

Not a specific PAF question but what is the purpose of that cylindrical thing in the middle of the engine exhaust?

If you go and see the details of that pictures again on Airliners.net, you will find that this USN F-16 is actually one of the embargoed PAF F-16.
So the question is related to PAF, after all


Photos: Lockheed F-16B Fighting Falcon Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

Airframe Details for F-16 #92-0461

 

[gambit]

Why is there a pitot on the nose cone? Doesn't the f-16s have pitots behind the nose cone, mounted on fuselage, on the side?

All F-16s have the pitot probe at the radome's tip. This is primary air data for airspeed and altitude, raw and computed. The side air data probe have the same function and works in conjunction with the main pitot probe to provide multiple sources of air data for the FLCS.

 

[SQ8]

All F-16s have the pitot probe at the radome's tip. This is primary air data for airspeed and altitude, raw and computed. The side air data probe have the same function and works in conjunction with the main pitot probe to provide multiple sources of air data for the FLCS.

Are you sure? Im not sure if that little point on the radome is a pitot probe.

 

[gambit]

Are you sure? Im not sure if that little point on the radome is a pitot probe.

It is a pitot probe.

Photos

 

[SQ8]

After burner?

Housing for the shaft. The blades have to rotate on some axis

 

[Donatello]

Are you sure? Im not sure if that little point on the radome is a pitot probe.

That's why i was confused as well Because on some F-16s it is a clear 'long rod' and on some not. Just like the long pitot ADS on the mig-21s.

Boeing 707/720s had a pitot on the tail fin.

 

[dexter]

Turkish aviation company delivers F-16s to Pakistan

Turkish Aerospace Industries handed last four of modernized F-16 fighters to Pakistan in a ceremony in Ankara on Tuesday.

World Bulletin / News Desk

Turkish Aerospace Industries has delivered the last four upgraded F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan as part of "the Peace Drive" program between Turkey and Pakistan's Ministry of Defense.

The remaining four out of 41 aircraft were handed over in a ceremony in Ankara on Tuesday.

The company, known by the acronym TUSAS, signed a contract to upgrade and test aircraft with Pakistan’s Ministry of Defense in 2009. Under the program, Turkish technicians were to upgrade and test 41 aircraft and the first of the planes was delivered two years ago.

The second edition of the Peace Drive program, which started in October 2010, was due completion by September 2014. The required parts, materials and technical data was given to TUSAS as part of another contract between the U.S. government and the Pakistani Air Force.

TUSAS's chairman Yalcın Kaya said that "the upgraded F-16s would certainly and proudly increase Pakistan Air Force's reliability and functionality."

"This program is not just a project about the collaboration and a long-lasting brotherhood between the two countries. It also comprises of efforts in the detailed planning and accurate technical works resulting in the top quality proven outcome at the end," Kaya said.

Pakistan Air Marshall Sohail Aman said both Pakistan and Turkey need to work with more collaboration and coherence in future.

"The future of the three countries (US, Turkey, Pakistan) is together since the objective of all three countries is to generate global peace and make the world safer," he said.

Yilmaz Guldogan, a defense expert, said this program shows Turkey's and the Aerospace Industry's achievement in international aerospace technology and defense.

"TUSAS is one of the leading companies worldwide in aircraft modernization. It is expected that more international demands will be received for the company's services," Yilmaz said.

TUSAS began co-producing U.S.-designed F-16s for the Turkish Air Force in 1984 and is one of the world’s main aerospace companies involved in the manufacture and modernization of the fighter jets. It has also upgraded the Royal Jordanian Air Forces' F-16s.

source: Turkish aviation company delivers F-16s to Pakistan | Diplomacy | Worldbulletin News