Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Peaceful Civilian]

can,t say about Rafale but i think PAF pilots gets some training on Saudi euro fighters ..... correct me plz if am wrong

Your source of Information??

 

[Abdul Quddoos]

why we do it when we are not under sanctions and we got large cache of parts recently? we can buy parts anytime from lockheed if we need them .and don't forget PAF learn a lesson last time .

Sir, I agree. we bought, but for what cost? don't you think spare parts come with many BRAND NEW DO MORES. And in many cases these were delayed because DO MORES were what we rejected (in such case crap can help) in many cases e.g, operations in waziristan was one of them and we have to go after all, because we don't want our frontline fighter be grounded. We have to do first, what americans wanted, for spare parts.

 

[Arsalan]

are we ready for more dirty games of USA ? if yes then go ahead if we are living for F-16 on earth we should do it otherwise world is so big and options are so many

agreed,
our relations with US are not such that we can relay on them for a front line main stay fighter jet for PAF.

 

[Imran Khan]

agreed,
our relations with US are not such that we can relay on them for a front line main stay fighter jet for PAF.

its look by some posters we are here just for f-16 we have to make future policy foreign policy just F-16 . to hell with f-16 its not f-22 damn we have more then 5 options for 4++ gen now a days when world is moving to 5th gen .how many more years we will begg and work for USA just for f-16 ?

 

[Arsalan]

its look by some posters we are here just for f-16 we have to make future policy foreign policy just F-16 . to hell with f-16 its not f-22 damn we have more then 5 options for 4++ gen now a days when world is moving to 5th gen .how many more years we will begg and work for USA just for f-16 ?

apart from only beggine to get these, we then have to beg to fly these as well.

no disrespect to the F-16, as you said, in time when world is moving to 5th generation, the F-16 is still among the best fighter jets available. however, the point is that we have other options open, the JF-17 is on track and can be a perfect replacement of F-16 as the new block develop. is have an open structure design and the integration of modern upgrades will be possible. J-10B is around the corner and PAF is keen to go for J-10B or FC-20 what ever it may be called!

with the new 5th generation being developed, PAC learning fast with the JFT, China developing some of the finest war machines, F-16 or you may say, a US made fighter jet is no more a good choice for us!

best regards!

 

[fatman17]

17 May 1986
A Pakistani F-16 shoots down a Su-22 of the Afghan Air Force, making Pakistan the second country after Israel to put F-16s into military action.
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[Windjammer]

17 May 1986
A Pakistani F-16 shoots down a Su-22 of the Afghan Air Force, making Pakistan the second country after Israel to put F-16s into military action.
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17 May 1986, Sqn. Ldr. A. Hameed Qadri of No. 9 Squadron, flying an F-16A Fighting Falcon (S. No. 82-723) from PAF Base, Sargodha, shot down 2 Soviet/Afghan Su-22s in a single sortie 16,000 ft. over Parachinar, Pakistan. 1 AIM-9L Sidewinder Kill, 1 Gun Kill.

 

[Meejee]

17 May 1986, Sqn. Ldr. A. Hameed Qadri of No. 9 Squadron, flying an F-16A Fighting Falcon (S. No. 82-723) from PAF Base, Sargodha, shot down 2 Soviet/Afghan Su-22s in a single sortie 16,000 ft. over Parachinar, Pakistan. 1 AIM-9L Sidewinder Kill, 1 Gun Kill.

What was the time frame between the first scramble notice to the shooting down?

 

[fatman17]

What was the time frame between the first scramble notice to the shooting down?

PAF was doing 2 things - flying CAPs and on QRA (2 to 6 mins) from scramble.

 

[Edevelop]

 

[epinephrine]

its look by some posters we are here just for f-16 we have to make future policy foreign policy just F-16 . to hell with f-16 its not f-22 damn we have more then 5 options for 4++ gen now a days when world is moving to 5th gen .how many more years we will begg and work for USA just for f-16 ?

apart from Jf-17 n J-1o wat are the other three 4th gen jet options for PAF which we can afford to buy?no country is willing to sell jets to pak.our politicians are not working for US for F-16s but for dollars.they are least bothered about F-16s or pakistan.with F-7s and mirages getting much older and slow production rate of JFTs these F-16s are our only choice.once we get our hands on J-10 n large number of JFTs only then we can think about getting rid of F-16s

 

[Imran Khan]

apart from Jf-17 n J-1o wat are the other three 4th gen jet options for PAF which we can afford to buy?no country is willing to sell jets to pak.our politicians are not working for US for F-16s but for dollars.they are least bothered about F-16s or pakistan.with F-7s and mirages getting much older and slow production rate of JFTs these F-16s are our only choice.once we get our hands on J-10 n large number of JFTs only then we can think about getting rid of F-16s

any link abut jft slow production sir?
BTW in 2006 when we by f-16 we have options more then these three still we select it because fill the gap and pass the time till we have jf-17 and j-10 in hands . now we actually don't need more fighters but we need to wait .its not hobby to buy plane but needs .abut economy if you know it we have 10 years boom 10 years slow since 1947 .50s slow 60s fastest 70s slow 80fastest 90 slow 2000s was fastest dont you worry abut selling us . after MMRCA DONE now you can go grippen eu fighter j-11 j-10 even if you pay Russia will sold you mig-35 or su-35 . its not matter of no one want to sale its matter of are we need them and we have cash to spend on it .

 

[alimobin memon]

apart from Jf-17 n J-1o wat are the other three 4th gen jet options for PAF which we can afford to buy?no country is willing to sell jets to pak.our politicians are not working for US for F-16s but for dollars.they are least bothered about F-16s or pakistan.with F-7s and mirages getting much older and slow production rate of JFTs these F-16s are our only choice.once we get our hands on J-10 n large number of JFTs only then we can think about getting rid of F-16s

Brother when country wants to buy , market is open and when we already have built our fighter and china our biggest ally has offered it's j10 and j11 i don't think we need to think about others

 

[Armstrong]

A noob question :

Have we managed to reverse engineer any part of these F-16s that we've been flying for the better part of 2-3 decades now ? Perhaps some avionics, something significant that we learned during overhauling the engines or be able to reverse engineer some of the armaments that these birds carried ?

 

[Last Hope]

Brother when country wants to buy , market is open and when we already have built our fighter and china our biggest ally has offered it's j10 and j11 i don't think we need to think about others

It is extremely limited for Pakistan.

A noob question :

Have we managed to reverse engineer any part of these F-16s that we've been flying for the better part of 2-3 decades now ? Perhaps some avionics, something significant that we learned during overhauling the engines or be able to reverse engineer some of the armaments that these birds carried ?

Probably. You never know.