Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Aamir Hussain]

Aim-120C

Aim-9M

Aim-7

AGM-84 Harpoon

AGM-65 Maverick

BLU-109

Mk-82

JDAM with GBU 31/38

Some also say that we have a AGM-88 Harm but its not confirmed

And some say the older Shrike as well.

 

[serialkiller]

pakistan should not buy more f-16s

 

[fatman17]

L-3 Link awarded contract to provide F-16 ATDs to PAF


August 12, 2011 (by Rick Oyler) - L-3 Link Simulation & Training (L-3 Link) announced on 8th August that it has been awarded a contract to build and deliver two F-16C block 52 Aircrew Training Devices (ATDs) to the Pakistan Air Force (PAF).


Both simulators, scheduled for delivery in 2013, will be installed and networked at the PAF's Shahbaz Air Base.

"These F-16C block 52 Aircrew Training Devices will be built on proven and cost-effective common hardware and software designs that will enable L-3 Link to deliver a solution tailored to meet Pakistan Air Force training requirements," said Leonard Genna, president of L-3 Link. "These high-fidelity devices will enable a significant percentage of F-16 pilot training to be conducted through the use of simulation."

The PAF's F-16C Block 52 ATDs will support new pilot, pilot conversion and advanced skills training. Pilots will be able to practice takeoffs and landings, low-level flight and emergency procedures. In support of more advanced skills training, F-16 pilots will be able to acquire and identify targets while accurately delivering a wide range of ordnance during simulated air-to-air and air-to-ground missions.

Each F-16C Block 52 ATD will be integrated with L-3 Link's SimuSphere® HD 18-facet visual system display, which will provide pilots with a 360-degree field-of-view. The simulators also will feature high-definition databases and image generation systems to create highly realistic and relevant training environments. Both F-16 ATDs will incorporate L-3 Link's simulated Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System, enabling pilots to practice control of aircraft targeting systems and sensors. Day and night vision goggle training will be conducted over a geo-specific visual system database of Pakistan.

The two F-16C Block 52 ATDs will be supported by one mission support system. Each simulator will also have a dedicated instructor/operator station.

L-3 Link is the leading provider of F-16 simulators worldwide. Since the 1970s, the company has delivered approximately 140 F-16 training devices in support of the U.S. Air Force, Air National Guard and 10 foreign nations.

Courtesy of L-3 Link Simulation & Training

 

[Chogy]

Modern simulators are just amazing. They are very, very close to perfect, and especially when dealing with expensive jet aircraft, one can practice without the enormous expense of flying the real thing.

Very few people know that simulators are so good, airline pilots can be 100% certified to fly a Boeing 777, for example, without ever leaving the ground. His very first flight can be a revenue flight from NY to Tokyo. The days of flying around in empty jets for training purposes are long gone.

Military fighter sims are perfect for simulating night operations, BVR, and intercepts. And of course, all of them are needed to practice emergencies and malfunctions.

 

[Imran Khan]

L-3 Link Simulation & Training

 

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self delete ......

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

Pakistan Air Force F-16B Fighting Falcon at Lajes / Azores Portugal, June 24, 2008

Pakistan Air Force F-16B Fighting Falcon (401) at Izmir - Cigli Turkey, June 4, 2011

 

[unicorn]

PAF has not as yet decided to go for the additional 18 -You don't even know the delivery date, but it's the right choice? You don't even know how they may be configured but it's the right choice?

PAF has long been considering the option of additional F-16, but I think they may have not gone forward because of the political conditions or waiting for the right moment.You must also bear in mind that we have currently given multiple contracts associated with our new and old F-16's.
The news of additional F-16 was published in aviation weak way back in march.

Pakistan is in negotiations with the U.S. to get more Lockheed Martin F-16s beyond those it has on order, while at the same time it is developing its defense manufacturing capability to reduce its reliance on the U.S.

Pakistan In Negotiations For More F-16s | AVIATION WEEK

As far as why I think it is a good move is because I am considering only the operational preparedness of what PAF currently have in it's inventory.The BVR of JF-17 may be operational but what is the operational preparedness of it with JF-17 have big question mark on it.Besides as far as I know we don't even know of yet whether the weapons integration of JF-17 has been completed or not.For example we have conducted multiple test of RA'ad but not with JF-17.Also as the things are currently suggesting it seems PAF will put it's new batch of J10 on the western front and not on the eastern one.J10 a new unproven platform which will take time to come, time to induct and time to fully understand.The point is inspite of these wise efforts the western front remain vulnerable in the near future as far as I am concerned.So those who are in favour of not procuring the additional F-16 in favour of J-10 to me they are Jazbati because they are not taking in account that we have experience of two decade with these machines unlike J-10.

Furthermore Americans have recently hold even the salaries of their soldiers in Afghanistan what makes you think they will throw aid to Pakistan.Their regular bahana of blaming Pakistan so that they can stop our aid, This move of theirs not entirely depends on their demands.Running out of money also has an important part in it.I suggest we should take the advantage of this situation and use the military aid of Kerelugar bill to get the additional F-16. It is again responsibility of Haqqani to do the work in Washington and make them understand that in current circumstances how important it is for US to sell even a pin to other countries.
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[DANGER-ZONE]

super Hot Image from Izmir

 

[Windjammer]

General Ehsan-ul-Haq (left) becomes the first General of the Pakistan Army to fly in an F-16. This event took place during exercise Hi-Mark in 2005. Seen in the pic presenting Gen.Ehsan an F-16 model is Air Cdre Farhat Hussain Khan, who was Base Commander of one of the airbases participating in the exercise at the time.

 

[araz]

Which basically translates into Indian aircraft being technically safe from attack..
MK's Idea is not wrong either.. the vulnerability of these bases suggests that it is time to either shut them down.. or turn them into FOB's.
And find more land further east from the border to convert to MOB's.
They can still use these bases for recovery and staging ops.

Santro
In the Indo Pak scenario with CMs with 700 KMs , and BM with CEPs of 10 m and ranges upto 1500 KMs, it is a mute point as to what is safe from enemy hands in case of a war.
Araz

 

[epinephrine]

both india n pakistan have "stones" n they r living in "glass houses".
those living in glass houses should not throw stones at each other so its better for both countries to avoid any misadventure

 

[air marshal]

August 20, 1982: PAF accepts first F-16 from Peace Gate I order.

 

[razgriz19]

 

[CallsignAlzaeem]

both india n pakistan have "stones" n they r living in "glass houses".
those living in glass houses should not throw stones at each other so its better for both countries to avoid any misadventure

Good to see people like you,We need to understand this that sub-continent is not able enough to witness a war between two nuclear powers,war must be the last resort.