Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[SQ8]

It does seem like PAF wants to fly the Viper for the next hundred years but it might need something like a ROSE.Have we thought of that....will Americans allow that??

Not possible as such for the F-16AM/BMs
F-16C/Ds can receive a block-72 update.
This will not be released even though discussions(including how and where the upgrade will be performed ) have been done.

 

[White privilege]

Not possible as such for the F-16AM/BMs
F-16C/Ds can receive a block-72 update.
This will not be released even though discussions(including how and where the upgrade will be performed ) have been done.

Really...Are we going to just retire so many Vipers and sell them for scrap??

 

[SQ8]

Really...Are we going to just retire so many Vipers and sell them for scrap??

Yes
If their metal is stressed beyond refurbishment they are a danger to fly.

 

[The Eagle]

PWD turning into Saddar.

Karachi now and enjoying the norm of looking over my shoulder for any motorbike with more than one rider.

Loved it. Very true.

 

[StormBreaker]

Karachi now and enjoying the norm of looking over my shoulder for any motorbike with more than one rider.

The instilled horror in KHI

 

[Ali_Baba]

The Mirages are mostly mechanical planes and therefore maintaining them for this long as PAF has, has been manageable - however the F16s are far more electrical and electronic and therefore more tied into how long the manufacturer will support them with spare parts and support maintenance. The electronics are not as interchangeable or swappable in the same mix-and-match approach that the PAF has taken to keep the Mirages going.

PAF will not be able to repeat the Mirage "design pattern/appraoch" of procurement and maintenance on the F16 fleet - regardless of the politics being favourable or not.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

F-16 Fleet likely will be main stream till 2030 easily
Unlike the smartphones the F-16 is not downloading patches and upgrades
Nor they are running windows xp or Windows 10 , to run main Flying components , which means they will have compatibility issues

Electronic components normally easily have a shelf life 8-15 years
Wiring is 100% replaceable, engine of course has a shelf life or number of hours
Depends on how often you fly the F16 (Servicing / Your ground Engineering Team's effort)

Since the machines are serviced regularly the planes will keep flying easily for 8+ Years

• Should there be V-Pack upgrade on fleet then of course the fleet can easily go 15+ years
• Engine Spares would be idea for keeping the F16 C/D fleet flying optimum levels

Should a Viper Grade Upgrade become available , for the entire fleet with spare engines
then the bird is easily with PAF for long while

Since 2005-2007 deals negotiated by Musharraf Sahib , there has been no substantial progress on the F16 Modernization , only Chatter about possible F16 Fleet Modernization Package

• However an add of 18 F16-V models would be welcomed
• Upgrade of existing 75 Units , to V standard would be welcomed upgrade

As we know Both Egypt and Turkey fly large fleet of F16 beyond 100 units , so there is no reason why the Pakistani Jet count can't exceed 100 units for F16, recently Turkey has requested more F16 to augment it's fleet, Jordan did also get new F16 announced

 

[Scorpiooo]

Can we hear some news in regards of F16 in current visit of Gen Bajwa to USA

 

[Windjammer]

 

[ziaulislam]

Really...Are we going to just retire so many Vipers and sell them for scrap??

Why is this shocking?
We prematurely retired previou american fighters for lack of spares too

Failure of diplomacy to get more used fighters but anyway

 

[MastanKhan]

Why is this shocking?
We prematurely retired previou american fighters for lack of spares too

Failure of diplomacy to get more used fighters but anyway

Hi,

Supposedly PAF the first force to retire the F-104's----?????

 

[GriffinsRule]

Hi,

Supposedly PAF the first force to retire the F-104's----?????

Retiring less than 10 aircraft of a type is not the same as 70+

 

[Windjammer]

 

[SQ8]

Can we hear some news in regards of F16 in current visit of Gen Bajwa to USA

Yes - the news will be that nothing will happen.

 

[Raider 21]

A privately-owned F-16A Block 10 in Arizona, USA. Aircraft was formerly with Israel AF.