Pakistan doesn't reopen border despite US apology

[Hawkish]

That article is from 2008 right after the attack on Mumbai.

Taliban talked about diplomatic ties after Indian doctors left Afghanistan when the Indian embassy was attacked.
If you cannot provide assistance, then dont stop others who can. India is also providing assistance to several other countries, but nobody has suffered as much as Afghanistan.

India is involved in large social projects in Afghanistan. They are also involved in Intelligence gathering in Afghanistan/covert work which worries Pakistan. What is wrong in Pakistan expressing their concern about India? It is a legitimate concern

 

[Omar1984]

India is involved in large social projects in Afghanistan. They are also involved in Intelligence gathering in Afghanistan/covert work which worries Pakistan. What is wrong in Pakistan expressing their concern about India? It is a legitimate concern

change your flag to indian, im tired of indians coming to this forum with western flags trying to go by as whites.

if you are so interested in india's interest in Afghanistan, why dont you ask india for transit route for your NATO trucks. Good luck with that, your india shares not a single border with Afghanistan. The only way india can have access to Afghanistan is through Pakistan (and Pakistan will never grant india that access) so indians are useless for the U.S. in this war.

 

[Hawkish]

U.S. has to do more to protect Pakistan's interest in the region.

U.S. needs to respect Pakistan's interests and work for mutual benefit with Pakistan.
U.S. needs to respect the lives of Pakistani troops and Pakistani civilians.
U.S. needs to cooperate more with Pakistan in this war.
U.S. needs Pakistan more than any other country on earth for winning the war in Afghanistan.

Indians stay out of this, your country shares no border with Afghanistan. The only way you can have access to Afghanistan is through Pakistan (and Pakistan will never grant india that access) so you are useless for the U.S. in this war.

Ya that looks very reasonable. we keep helping you with billions in aids every year and all sorts of weapons. You keep stabbing us back by supporting Taliban in Afghanistan.

 

[Patrician]

change your flag to indian, im tired of indians coming to this forum with western flags trying to go by as whites.

Is it sooooooo improbable for a white/an american to agree with something that India does or is it just your hatred for India?

if you are so interested in india's interest in Afghanistan, why dont you ask india for transit route for your NATO trucks. Good luck with that, your india shares not a single border with Afghanistan. The only way india can have access to Afghanistan is through Pakistan (and Pakistan will never grant india that access) so indians are useless for the U.S. in this war.

No need to get annoyed my friend.

By the way, what 'other' relevance does Pakistan have for US apart from this war?

You are putting all your eggs in the 'WoT' basket and the basket is going to be filled up soon.

 

[Omar1984]

Ya that looks very reasonable. we keep helping you with billions in aids every year and all sorts of weapons. You keep stabbing us back by supporting Taliban in Afghanistan.

Dont make accusations without giving proper evidence and by evidence I dont mean a Wall Street Journal article based on what militants tell them.

 

[Patrician]

Indians stay out of this, your country shares no border with Afghanistan. The only way you can have access to Afghanistan is through Pakistan (and Pakistan will never grant india that access) so you are useless for the U.S. in this war.

India is in A'stan not because of the US or Pakistan. India is in afghanistan because a stable and prosperous A'stan is in Afghans' and Indians' interest.

 

[Omar1984]

Is it sooooooo improbable for a white/an american to agree with something that India does or is it just your hatred for India?

No need to get annoyed my friend.

Pakistanis know how the indian mentality works.

Go ahead and kiss @$$ to Americans like you did to the Soviets.

Go ahead with your cyber war against Pakistan. Pretend to be American, Canadian, French, Afghan, African anything behind the computer and make your propaganda against Pakistan.

You were dreaming Soviets would conquer Afghanistan so Pakistan can be eliminated your dream never came true instead your best friends soviets were eliminated. Now you are dreaming America conquers Afghanistan so Pakistan can be eliminated.

Keep dreaming.

 

[Hawkish]

Omar

The cat is out now.

Don't have your head in the sand. Your President gets regular updates from our field commanders as well as Secretary of state, CIA directors on the tactical support to Afghanistan Taliban gets fin Pakisatn and the reluctance to address the cancer. The evidence trick work well with India and not with US

Denying is not going to help. Neither blackmailing with the transit routes

 

[Patrician]

Pakistanis know how the indian mentality works.

Go ahead and kiss @$$ to Americans like you did to the Soviets.

Go ahead with your cyber war against Pakistan. Pretend to be American, Canadian, French, African anything behind the computer and make your propaganda against Pakistan.

You were dreaming Soviets would conquer Afghanistan so Pakistan can be eliminated your dream never came true instead your best friends soviets were eliminated. Now you are dreaming America conquers Afghanistan so Pakistan can be eliminated.

Keep dreaming.

You are angry and I do not respond to angry people. We'll chat the next time you're in a cool mood. Till then

P.S. Your signature tells me how much you hate India. Hate never got anybody anywhere my friend. The world doesn't pay heed to emotional/angry people who view things through the spectacles of hate.

 

[StingRoy]

if you are so interested in india's interest in Afghanistan, why dont you ask india for transit route for your NATO trucks. Good luck with that, your india shares not a single border with Afghanistan. The only way india can have access to Afghanistan is through Pakistan (and Pakistan will never grant india that access) so indians are useless for the U.S. in this war.

You can understand the reason behind India's commitment to Afghanistan if you look from a wider angle.
Indians are in Afghanistan to help stabilize the country which is in lines with NATO countries. With a stable society, the Afghans can focus on their own country and will be less of a scapegoat for the religious fanatics operating camps in the back alleys of Pakistan. This would help improve the security of the region which has been responsible for the terror attacks against India.

 

[Hawkish]

You can understand the reason behind India's commitment to Afghanistan if you look from a wider angle.
Indians are in Afghanistan to help stabilize the country which is in lines with NATO countries. With a stable society, the Afghans can focus on their own country and will be less of a scapegoat for the religious fanatics operating camps in the back alleys of Pakistan. This would help improve the security of the region which has been responsible for the terror attacks against India.

That is a load of bull crap. India is in Afghanistan for one strategic reason. To contain Pakistan. what about helping Africa guys? There are much poorer places in African continent.

India's presence has definitely increased headache for the us

 

[Patrician]

That is a load of bull crap. India is in Afghanistan for strategic reasons. To contain Pakistan. what about helping Africa guys? there are much poorer places in African continent

India is helping African nations also. Use Google.

India's presence has definitely increased headache for the us

If Indian presence is more of a bane than a boon for the US, why doesn't the US just tell India to leave in simple words?

The fact that US is not asking India to leave is reason enough to believe that US also wants India to be there.

In fact, there was a time when US wanted India to send its military to A'stan but India refused to.

 

[StingRoy]

Pakistanis know how the indian mentality works. Go ahead and kiss @$$ to Americans like you did to the Soviets.
Now you are dreaming America conquers Afghanistan so Pakistan can be eliminated.

Narrow minded people can only think inside the box.

You are so reluctant and insecure to accept this reality, that stability in the region can not only help all the neighbors to exist peacefully, but also bring prosperity to all. What I see from this argument is that you want the Afghan region to be in turmoil so that you can exploit your own vested interests out of the situation.
Why would you think that Pakistan would be eliminated if Afghanistan is a stable country?... beats me.

 

[Omar1984]

You can understand the reason behind India's commitment to Afghanistan if you look from a wider angle.
Indians are in Afghanistan to help stabilize the country which is in lines with NATO countries. With a stable society, the Afghans can focus on their own country and will be less of a scapegoat for the religious fanatics operating camps in the back alleys of Pakistan. This would help improve the security of the region which has been responsible for the terror attacks against India.

indians are interested because they want Pakistan to be surrounded by the enemy on both sides but Pakistan will never let that happen.

Do you think Pakistan would have ever let Soviets conquer Afghanistan? If that happened, Pakistan would have been surrounded by two enemy countries on each side.

Pakistan wants a friendly Afghanistan not an indian-friendly Afghanistan because an indian-friendly Afghanistan can never be a Pakistani friendly Afghanistan.

Besides Afghanistan is not even india's immediate neighbour. Worry about Bhutan and Nepal.

Pakistan will place its own interest before any other country's interest.

 

[StingRoy]

That is a load of bull crap. India is in Afghanistan for one strategic reasons. To contain Pakistan. what about helping Africa guys? There are much poorer places in African continent.
India's presence has definitely increased headache for the us

Agree there are poorer places in Africa, and India has historically provided numerous assistance to many African nations. But we are discussing the importance of Afghanistan here which has a direct impact to our own security than any place in Africa will.

I would like to point you to an article on Forbes amongst the several other articles which support the Indian presence in Afghanistan.

Some excerpts from this article:
Delhi and Washington view the challenge of stabilizing Afghanistan the same way. Both consider the Afghan insurgency and terrorism it spawns their most pressing national security challenge, and neither wants to see a Taliban-led government return. Both understand that failure will bring even greater dangers to their own doorsteps. Indeed, the growing instability in Afghanistan and Pakistan is a front-line concern for New Delhi, which does not want to see Mumbai, or any other city, again in flames.

But India has demonstrated unique and effective capabilities that will make a big difference in Afghanistan. With its historic ties and cultural affinity to the country, India has already provided impressive civilian assistance. It is the fifth-largest bilateral donor to Afghanistan. India's $1.2 billion contribution to date has supported projects in power, medicine, agriculture and education. Afghanistan's new parliament meets in a building constructed by India. Indian engineers built a port-access road in violent southern Afghanistan, and India has trained Afghan civil servants, demonstrating an Indian comparative advantage on the ground.

We Need India's Help In Afghanistan - Forbes.com