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Otherwise better to stick with Chinese aircraft options.Counting your chicken before they hatch?
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Otherwise better to stick with Chinese aircraft options.Counting your chicken before they hatch?
What you are trying to prove here by posting that Indian T-90 have Israeli and French Thermal sights and 1500HP engine??
Did you know what kind Thermal & NV systems PA tanks using?? Also we are getting 1500HP engine tech from Ukraine and will built subsystems designed for Turkish MBT Atlay, so India don't have quality advantage over Pakistan in terms of Tanks it only have number advantage which can be negated with effective anti tank tactics using various anti tank weapons Pakistan have.
Also (if purchased or locally built) Pakistani T-90s will be very different beast as it will have very different systems installed in it.
One question how your attack helos gonna survive a AESA radar /EO/IR guided missile with 15km range in battle field supported by LY-80E, Radar /EO/IR guided AAAs & MANPADS???
Many Indians are in delusion that it's cake walk in war against Pakistan. If it was that easy your military would have attacked not just bark.
That being said "FcuK arabs"/most of the Arab countries never had a soft spot for Pakistan.
Please don't say that about the Arab brothers and sisters. The Arab people have always been with Pakistan. @Sharpshooter12 is right but he is overlooking the fact the Arab leaders he mentioned were extremely secular and frankly, closet atheists and therefore couldn't care less about a nation born in the name of Islam. Also overlooked is the fact that these leaders are not the true extensions of the Arab people, that's why they were dictators.That being said "FcuK arabs"/
thanks for your concernsRosoboronexport is under US sanctions. India can get away with exemption for being US/Trump friendly but may be Pakistan cant, hence this is the only obstacle that I think remains as for as Pakistan's purchases of S-400 are concerned.
As for the finances, Pakistan can do some "Jugad" as in the past.
You have to keep your house in order first.
Yes the problem with these monarchies and dictatorships is that instead of state to state relationships, personal relationships take precedence. Take Libya for example, we had a fantastic relationship with them during Bhutto's premiership, while a hostile relationship during Zia's regime. It again blossomed during Bibi's first tenure while deteriorated during Nawaz's to the point that their ambassador was kicked out of the country after Pakistani delegation headed by the PM was badly insulted by Gadaffi in Tripoli.Please don't say that about the Arab brothers and sisters. The Arab people have always been with Pakistan. @Sharpshooter12 is right but he is overlooking the fact the Arab leaders he mentioned were extremely secular and frankly, closet atheists and therefore couldn't care less about a nation born in the name of Islam. Also overlooked is the fact that these leaders are not the true extensions of the Arab people, that's why they were dictators.
Russians are our regional power and almost neighbors who are indirectly or directly affected by the violence coming from Afghanistan due to American continued occupation. military purchases aside. the cooperation must be strategic and long lasting in nature in terms of cooperating in combating international terrorism introduced due to American wars in Middle east and Afghanistan. intelligence sharing , economic co-operation and diplomatic ties will be more beneficial than some token defense procurement which both America and India will see with hostility.By working with Russia in the sector of intelligence cooperation will be the most important goal rather should be the main goal of the two countries. The Russians were able to intercept about the coup in Turkey in great timing and warned Erdogan. This enhanced intelligence platform will be very beneficial for Pakistan.
You don't have money that's why you went for the Chinese junk submarines rather than the much more advanced French or German ones. You don't have money that's why you had to settle for dirt cheap JF-17s and Al-Khalids (Don't tell me you hadn't gone for J10s, or F-16s if you had the money). You don't have have money that's why you had to cancel the planned F-16 purchase because the US refused to subsidise it. Regarding begging for food, its rich coming from a country which is at the bottom of the HDI index and Global Hunger Index in South Asia. Damn you people didn't have the money to conduct a proper census until now.
Why does Pakistan need T-90 junk as 'not a one time purchase but a long term comittment' if superior Al khalid already exists and even more mighty AK-2 on the way?Who in their right minds would want a repainted upgraded T-72 ?I'm so confused, great @Dazzler . Enlighten me.
On topic - Pakistan won't get S-400.Too costly and would end indo-russian military relationship.Same with Su-35.T-90 might be possible.
its just fanboy list/wishes whatever you want to call it .. everything Russia offers we can get in easier terms from China .. S-400 / HQ-9 , Su-35 / J-15D , T-90 / Type99(A)
any big ticket items that may come from Russia might come from China like RD-93 .
only 4 batteries of S-400 was inducted @AUSTERLITZHQ-9 and S-400 -Big difference.Thats why China actually bought S-400,and didn't make HQ-9 .Chinese S-400 copying wont help.Which is why Russia doesnt mind selling it to NATO member turkey.
https://sputniknews.com/military/201709181057496814-s400-turkey-secrets-safe/
RD-93 is old early 4rth gen fighter engine.Its not a 'big ticket item' by any means.You can get chinese tanks and aircraft ofcourse.
Why does Pakistan need T-90 junk as 'not a one time purchase but a long term comittment' if superior Al khalid already exists and even more mighty AK-2 on the way?Who in their right minds would want a repainted upgraded T-72 ?I'm so confused, great @Dazzler . Enlighten me.
On topic - Pakistan won't get S-400.Too costly and would end indo-russian military relationship.Same with Su-35.T-90 might be possible.
HQ-9 and S-400 -Big difference.Thats why China actually bought S-400,and didn't make HQ-9 .Chinese S-400 copying wont help.Which is why Russia doesnt mind selling it to NATO member turkey.
RD-93 is old early 4rth gen fighter engine.Its not a 'big ticket item' by any means.You can get chinese tanks and aircraft ofcourse.