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747 are being sold but who will buy these outdated, derelict a/c

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The planes in question are 777, not the jumbos. The 777 is a relatively new aircraft, while the 747 is a old, downtrodden, aircraft which miraculously still flies.

What could be the sane reason behind selling 777?

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Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency ) - PIA to induct 10 new aircraft in its fleet: NA told

PIA to induct 10 new aircraft in its fleet: NA told

ISLAMABAD, Nov 23 (APP): Parliamentary Secretary for Defence Azeem Daultana on Wednesday informed the National Assembly that the PIAC Board has approved three-year Business Plan 2011-14 under which six B-737 airplanes would be replaced besides induction of six additional narrow body new generation and four ATR-42 aircraft into the aging fleet of national flag carrier.Replying to various questions in Question Hour, he said that the Pakistan International Airlines Corporation (PIAC) had 39 aircraft, out of which 23 were very old. A comprehensive plan has been chalked out to overhaul the aircraft in a year, he added.
He said the PIAC would overhaul all these planes from its own resources and would not take any financial assistance from the national kitty.
To a supplementary question, he said that some aircraft were hired on lease from Greece for the Hajj Operation.
He said that the government had no intention to ban unions in the PIAC. A code of conduct has already been circulated to different unions and associations.Violation of this code of conduct would lead to disciplinary action under applicable law, he added.
To another question, Azeem Daultana said that the PIAC suffered Rs 78.19 million during the last year on account of cancellation of flights due to strikes and protests.
He said that a separate Cabin Maintenance Division was set up to improve cabin services in the planes.
Azeem said private airlines offer lucrative salaries, perks and privileges to their employees.
He said that during the financial year 2010, the corporation achieved its highest ever revenue in excess of Rs.107.5 billion as compared to Rs.95.5 billion in 2009 despite the volcanic eruption and strikes.
To a written reply, the House was informed that the accumulated losses of the PIAC stood at Rs.111.543 billion on September 30, 2011.

 

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Illegal appointments, promotions cost Rs 48m to PIA
By: Amraiz Khan | Published: December 02, 2011

LAHORE – Two general managers of Pakistan International Airlines’ IT department have caused the national flag carrier a loss of more than 48 million rupees by making illegal appointments in the corporation, revealed an inquiry report available with TheNation. Surprisingly, the Airlines’ management instead of taking strong action against the responsible issued just a displeasure notice to the accused warning them to avoid any such illegality in future.

Illegal appointments, promotions cost Rs 48m to PIA | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

Corruption at it's finest.

 

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PIA again faces EU ban threat | Business | DAWN.COM

PIA again faces EU ban threat


KARACHI: The European Union has expressed concern over ‘systematic deficiency’ in PIA aircraft maintenance, termed Civil Aviation Authority regulatory role ‘unreliable’ and started carefully examining the situation before taking a final decision to ban the airline operations in its region, it was learnt on Friday.

Sources said this was communicated by the European Aviation Safety Agency to the Pakistan International Airlines.

They added that if a ban was imposed, this would be a second time that the national flag carrier would not be allowed to travel to EU-member countries.

 

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PIA again faces EU ban threat | Business | DAWN.COM

PIA again faces EU ban threat


KARACHI: The European Union has expressed concern over ‘systematic deficiency’ in PIA aircraft maintenance, termed Civil Aviation Authority regulatory role ‘unreliable’ and started carefully examining the situation before taking a final decision to ban the airline operations in its region, it was learnt on Friday.

Sources said this was communicated by the European Aviation Safety Agency to the Pakistan International Airlines.

They added that if a ban was imposed, this would be a second time that the national flag carrier would not be allowed to travel to EU-member countries.

Thx to mr.100% and his team of thugs and bastards... bringing the nation more and more down to just drain it out completly somebody plz get this jerk out of office.

 

[SHAMK9]

lol govs will come and go but PIA will never get shut down samething goes for railways

 

[salvage]

we should convert our old 747's into AWACS or something like that....maybe air-refuller.

 

[fatman17]

we should convert our old 747's into AWACS or something like that....maybe air-refuller.

they are only good for the salvage market.

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PIA again faces EU ban threat | Business | DAWN.COM

PIA again faces EU ban threat


KARACHI: The European Union has expressed concern over ‘systematic deficiency’ in PIA aircraft maintenance, termed Civil Aviation Authority regulatory role ‘unreliable’ and started carefully examining the situation before taking a final decision to ban the airline operations in its region, it was learnt on Friday.

Sources said this was communicated by the European Aviation Safety Agency to the Pakistan International Airlines.

They added that if a ban was imposed, this would be a second time that the national flag carrier would not be allowed to travel to EU-member countries.

how shameful - this is the 3rd ban on PIA ops to the EU - our people just dont learn from their past mistakes.

 

[fatman17]

What could be the sane reason behind selling 777?
@nuclearpak - kickbacks!!! - remember the selling of the MD-10 triseries in the 80's

 

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PIA’s sole vendor denied parts’ supply

KARACHI: The sole spare parts vendor of Pakistan International Airlines (PIA), TWA Aviation FZE, has been denied supply of parts by the original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) leaving the national flag carrier in a fix resulting in increased technical problems of the airline’s fleet.

According to a correspondence by TWA to PIA, which is seen by The News, the vendor has informed PIA that it has been denied supply of parts and asked PIA to arrange parts from some other source.

The correspondence relates to parts for new ATR aircrafts on aircraft-on-ground (AOG) basis. It was learnt that the hesitation by OEMs is because that TWA FZE has no credibility or any history of such dealings with manufacturers who alone can supply parts to airline operators or to their recommended vendors.

According to aviation experts, airlines can only use original parts otherwise their insurance cover faces a risk in case of any incident or accident or to qualify for any guarantees offered by manufacturers at the time of delivery.

This is also a requirement for leased aircrafts or aircrafts purchased from the manufacturer or from any other party in case of used aircrafts.

It was learnt that contrary to the claims of PIA that TWA FZE had offered a $700 million credit line, PIA opened an LC (letter of credit) amounting $2.5 million through Summit Bank for supply of parts. Another correspondence between PIA and TWA FZE reveals inexperience of TWA FZE in dealing with such issues.

A source said that the parts were shipped in the name of Summit Bank instead of PIA, which led to delay of two to three days in getting them cleared from the customs.

Airlines all over the world maintain their own inventory of spares to carry out rectification and maintenance at their main hubs. In addition to this they appoint vendors located in proximity to their various international destinations.

PIA made a decision by handing over their inventory to TWA FZE, rather than having a choice of multiple vendors.

Sources said that this was done in 2005- 2006 when the former chairman, Chaudhry Ahmed Saeed was heading the airline. The then DMD AVM handed over the PIA inventory to a company located in UK and appointed it as its sole supplier with right of first refusal.

It may be mentioned here that when an aircraft is on ground and a part is not readily available it is classified as AOG and an airline would rather buy a part at twice or even thrice its normal price tag in order to avoid expenses such as provision of hotels for long delays to passengers, parking charges and consequential ramifications on its schedules.

PIA ended up buying all spares on AOG basis, which led to depletion of allocated maintenance budgets.

In 2007, PIA’s total fleet excluding the Boeing 777 was banned from operating into the European Union following inspections by SAFA (Safety Assessment of Foreign Aircrafts) inspectors.

“PIA has now made the same mistake in 2011. This time it is current DMD, who is an employee of GE, presently working on contract with PIA,” a source said.

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This is what happens when you don't put out tenders for spare parts, and just go to one vendor on personal bias.

 

[Imran Khan]

747s are active now i watch them daily in jeddah these days .

 

[Jango]

747s are active now i watch them daily in jeddah these days .

At the moment , yes they are active. But right now, 3 or 4 jumbos are grounded due to lack of spare parts.

 

[Imran Khan]

At the moment , yes they are active. But right now, 3 or 4 jumbos are grounded due to lack of spare parts.

they have daily here 1 flight of jumbo and that come . BTW dont lose hope soon parts will arrive and fleet will become ok .its matter of time only for me . god bless our flag career .

 

[Jango]

bow only one jumbo is grounded.

The big problem is that why the hell exclusively take spare parts from one vendor only, based in dubai, with no prior experience in the industry.

 

[Jango]

According to the following article, PIA will need to buy 19 more engines within 3 months, or risk putting the safety of passengers in danger.

Govt urged to save PIA

KARACHI: Joint Action Committee of PIA Employees (JACPIAE) has asked the government to save the national flag carrier from devastation and said that they will move the court if the government fails to respond.

JACPIAE Convenor and Pakistan Airline Pilots Association (PALPA) President, Captain Suhail Baluch, in a press conference on Monday urged the government to take immediate corrective measures by appointing competent administration. He held the current management responsible for corruption, incompetence and poor administration. He said the decline of PIA was blamed often on overstaffing, although the airline spent only 16 percent of its budget on salaries. He said employee-to-aircraft ratio was high only because the airline failed to add the desired number of aircrafts to its fleet.

He alleged that about 15 to 20 employees at the helm of PIA’s affairs were responsible for the devastation of PIA, resulting in Rs116 billion losses and grounding of half of the fleet.

Baluch also said that a large sum was spent to set up an FM radio station, which continued to cause a loss of revenue. He said that the recent Hajj operation was the worst in the airline’s history, although it had always been most profitable since the airline’s inception.

The JACPIAE Convenor said that even with an operation control office and outsourced ground handling agent at Jeddah, 650 additional employees were deputed, on political grounds and the airline had to bear additional expenses despite their failure to manage Hajj operations.

He said that a fast dilapidating fleet would only add to the misery of the passengers. The national flag carrier would have at least 16 engines completing their life cycle in the next three months while currently half of its fleet remains grounded due to shortage of 13 engines, he added.

Baluch said that the management planned a deal with Hellenic Airways to acquire two Boeing 747 200 series planes instead of repairing five planes of the existing 300 series.

He said the administration should have gotten its 7 grounded aircraft ready for operation after necessary repairs to mitigate the financial burden.

He also flayed the management decision to award maintenance and spare parts contract to Transworld Aviation, a Dubai-based US firm, on grounds of incompetence.
(somebody would be getting alot of kickbacks from this deal).

 

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PIA is being refused fuel for their aircraft at Jeddah and Manchester Airports, because of non-payment of bills to the fuel companies.

Ironic ain't it.

4 million is overdue at Jeddah airport.