Pakistan, China ‘keen to get hands on leaked subs documents’

[PaklovesTurkiye]

• The Australian

• 12:00AM August 26, 2016 GREG BEARUP South Asia correspondent @gbearup

Pakistani and Chinese spy agencies would be doing all they could to get their hands on leaked documents that reveal the capabilities of India’s new submarine fleet, according to two former high-ranking Pakistani generals.

That was if they didn’t already have the documents, they said.

Former Pakistani army chief Jehangir Karamat said Australia should be “concerned” about using the same French firm, DCNS, to manufacture its subs.

The report in the The Australian this week about a 22,000-page leak containing the specifications of a French-designed sub destined for the Indian Navy has been the lead story on Indian television and on the front pages of its newspapers.

“India assesses vulnerability of Scorpene submarines after a leak of secret data,’’ said the headline on the Hindustan Times, while The Hindu led with a story about the sloppy handling of the highly sensitive documents by DCNS: “Not a tight ship, submarine project leaked like a sieve.”

Indian politicians and defence officials are fuming and are hunting the source of the leak while trying to assess the damage.

“The French-designed subs are so advanced, so silent under water that they are extremely difficult, if not impossible to detect,” said a report on English-language news channel NDTV.

“But according to The Australian, the leak of the 22,000 pages has technical specifications that would make detection possible.”

General Karamat told The Australian the leakwas“mind-boggling’’.

“I can understand Australia’s concern (that the same company is building its subs),’’ said General Karamat, who was previously Pakistan’s ambassador to the US.

“I guess it’s too early to say anything but the report does mention that China and Pakistan would be interested. Indeed, anyone involved in counter measures would be most interested.’’

Retired general Talat Masood, who also served as secretary for defence production in Pakistan’s Defence Ministry, told The Australian the leak was extremely embarrassing to India and France: “The point here is that definitely Pakistan would be interested because India has been expanding its naval fleet and it would very much like to know what are the capabilities of the submarine … this document, to a large extent, would reveal that.”

He said subs were vitally importance in the region. “The Chinese are building the corridor, and so on, and also the Indians want to expand their influence on the seas and the US has been supportive of that,” he said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...s/news-story/08ee846d55965ce3d708a1a9b4c89da8

Can any Pakistani or Chinese member tell me? Anyone found that leaked papers? @Areesh @Chinese-Dragon @Nilgiri @Tipu7 @Taimoor Khan @The Eagle @The Sandman @Zibago @Imran Khan @Sheikh Rauf @Mrc @jkroo @cirr @grey boy 2 @ChineseTiger1986 @AndrewJin @Sinopakfriend @HAKIKAT @Major Sam @Hiptullha @Super Falcon @My-Analogous @Moonlight @django @LA se Karachi @Bratva @Irfan Baloch @Zarvan @Hassan Guy @Oscar @MastanKhan @Rashid Mahmood @dadeechi @Jlaw @Spy Master @T-Rex @idune @shah1398 @User @dsr478 @TheGreatOne @salarsikander @maximuswarrior @Max @HAIDER @DESERT FIGHTER @Penguin @Windjammer @I S I @dexter @Doordie @LadyFinger @Spring Onion @Mentee @Mr.Meap @Azlan Haider @Genghis khan1 @Sarge @Ghareeb_Da_Baal @EAK @Khan_21 @Narendra Trump

On serious note: How damaging it is 4 India? What are the implications of such massive leaks?

 

[django]

• The Australian

• 12:00AM August 26, 2016 GREG BEARUP South Asia correspondent @gbearup

Pakistani and Chinese spy agencies would be doing all they could to get their hands on leaked documents that reveal the capabilities of India’s new submarine fleet, according to two former high-ranking Pakistani generals.

That was if they didn’t already have the documents, they said.

Former Pakistani army chief Jehangir Karamat said Australia should be “concerned” about using the same French firm, DCNS, to manufacture its subs.

The report in the The Australian this week about a 22,000-page leak containing the specifications of a French-designed sub destined for the Indian Navy has been the lead story on Indian television and on the front pages of its newspapers.

“India assesses vulnerability of Scorpene submarines after a leak of secret data,’’ said the headline on the Hindustan Times, while The Hindu led with a story about the sloppy handling of the highly sensitive documents by DCNS: “Not a tight ship, submarine project leaked like a sieve.”

Indian politicians and defence officials are fuming and are hunting the source of the leak while trying to assess the damage.

“The French-designed subs are so advanced, so silent under water that they are extremely difficult, if not impossible to detect,” said a report on English-language news channel NDTV.

“But according to The Australian, the leak of the 22,000 pages has technical specifications that would make detection possible.”

General Karamat told The Australian the leakwas“mind-boggling’’.

“I can understand Australia’s concern (that the same company is building its subs),’’ said General Karamat, who was previously Pakistan’s ambassador to the US.

“I guess it’s too early to say anything but the report does mention that China and Pakistan would be interested. Indeed, anyone involved in counter measures would be most interested.’’

Retired general Talat Masood, who also served as secretary for defence production in Pakistan’s Defence Ministry, told The Australian the leak was extremely embarrassing to India and France: “The point here is that definitely Pakistan would be interested because India has been expanding its naval fleet and it would very much like to know what are the capabilities of the submarine … this document, to a large extent, would reveal that.”

He said subs were vitally importance in the region. “The Chinese are building the corridor, and so on, and also the Indians want to expand their influence on the seas and the US has been supportive of that,” he said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...s/news-story/08ee846d55965ce3d708a1a9b4c89da8

Can any Pakistani or Chinese member tell me? Anyone found that leaked papers? @Areesh @Chinese-Dragon @Nilgiri @Tipu7 @Taimoor Khan @The Eagle @The Sandman @Zibago @Imran Khan @Sheikh Rauf @Mrc @jkroo @cirr @grey boy 2 @ChineseTiger1986 @AndrewJin @Sinopakfriend @HAKIKAT @Major Sam @Hiptullha @Super Falcon @My-Analogous @Moonlight @django @LA se Karachi @Bratva @Irfan Baloch @Zarvan @Hassan Guy @Oscar @MastanKhan @Rashid Mahmood @dadeechi @Jlaw @Spy Master @T-Rex @idune @shah1398 @User @dsr478 @TheGreatOne @salarsikander @maximuswarrior @Max @HAIDER @DESERT FIGHTER @Penguin @Windjammer @I S I @dexter @Doordie @LadyFinger @Spring Onion @Mentee @Mr.Meap @Azlan Haider @Genghis khan1 @Sarge @Ghareeb_Da_Baal @EAK @Khan_21 @Narendra Trump

On serious note: How damaging it is 4 India? What are the implications of such massive leaks?

We will know it like the back of our hand lol.

 

[NKVD]

• The Australian

• 12:00AM August 26, 2016 GREG BEARUP South Asia correspondent @gbearup

Pakistani and Chinese spy agencies would be doing all they could to get their hands on leaked documents that reveal the capabilities of India’s new submarine fleet, according to two former high-ranking Pakistani generals.

That was if they didn’t already have the documents, they said.

Former Pakistani army chief Jehangir Karamat said Australia should be “concerned” about using the same French firm, DCNS, to manufacture its subs.

The report in the The Australian this week about a 22,000-page leak containing the specifications of a French-designed sub destined for the Indian Navy has been the lead story on Indian television and on the front pages of its newspapers.

“India assesses vulnerability of Scorpene submarines after a leak of secret data,’’ said the headline on the Hindustan Times, while The Hindu led with a story about the sloppy handling of the highly sensitive documents by DCNS: “Not a tight ship, submarine project leaked like a sieve.”

Indian politicians and defence officials are fuming and are hunting the source of the leak while trying to assess the damage.

“The French-designed subs are so advanced, so silent under water that they are extremely difficult, if not impossible to detect,” said a report on English-language news channel NDTV.

“But according to The Australian, the leak of the 22,000 pages has technical specifications that would make detection possible.”

General Karamat told The Australian the leakwas“mind-boggling’’.

“I can understand Australia’s concern (that the same company is building its subs),’’ said General Karamat, who was previously Pakistan’s ambassador to the US.

“I guess it’s too early to say anything but the report does mention that China and Pakistan would be interested. Indeed, anyone involved in counter measures would be most interested.’’

Retired general Talat Masood, who also served as secretary for defence production in Pakistan’s Defence Ministry, told The Australian the leak was extremely embarrassing to India and France: “The point here is that definitely Pakistan would be interested because India has been expanding its naval fleet and it would very much like to know what are the capabilities of the submarine … this document, to a large extent, would reveal that.”

He said subs were vitally importance in the region. “The Chinese are building the corridor, and so on, and also the Indians want to expand their influence on the seas and the US has been supportive of that,” he said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...s/news-story/08ee846d55965ce3d708a1a9b4c89da8

Can any Pakistani or Chinese member tell me? Anyone found that leaked papers? @Areesh @Chinese-Dragon @Nilgiri @Tipu7 @Taimoor Khan @The Eagle @The Sandman @Zibago @Imran Khan @Sheikh Rauf @Mrc @jkroo @cirr @grey boy 2 @ChineseTiger1986 @AndrewJin @Sinopakfriend @HAKIKAT @Major Sam @Hiptullha @Super Falcon @My-Analogous @Moonlight @django @LA se Karachi @Bratva @Irfan Baloch @Zarvan @Hassan Guy @Oscar @MastanKhan @Rashid Mahmood @dadeechi @Jlaw @Spy Master @T-Rex @idune @shah1398 @User @dsr478 @TheGreatOne @salarsikander @maximuswarrior @Max @HAIDER @DESERT FIGHTER @Penguin @Windjammer @I S I @dexter @Doordie @LadyFinger @Spring Onion @Mentee @Mr.Meap @Azlan Haider @Genghis khan1 @Sarge @Ghareeb_Da_Baal @EAK @Khan_21 @Narendra Trump

On serious note: How damaging it is 4 India? What are the implications of such massive leaks?

Leaked Documents of un constructed Subs best of Luck Which not even their yet

We will know it like the back of our hand lol.

It is in Public domain Last night i downloaded it

 

[The Huskar]

• The Australian

• 12:00AM August 26, 2016 GREG BEARUP South Asia correspondent @gbearup

Pakistani and Chinese spy agencies would be doing all they could to get their hands on leaked documents that reveal the capabilities of India’s new submarine fleet, according to two former high-ranking Pakistani generals.

That was if they didn’t already have the documents, they said.

Former Pakistani army chief Jehangir Karamat said Australia should be “concerned” about using the same French firm, DCNS, to manufacture its subs.

The report in the The Australian this week about a 22,000-page leak containing the specifications of a French-designed sub destined for the Indian Navy has been the lead story on Indian television and on the front pages of its newspapers.

“India assesses vulnerability of Scorpene submarines after a leak of secret data,’’ said the headline on the Hindustan Times, while The Hindu led with a story about the sloppy handling of the highly sensitive documents by DCNS: “Not a tight ship, submarine project leaked like a sieve.”

Indian politicians and defence officials are fuming and are hunting the source of the leak while trying to assess the damage.

“The French-designed subs are so advanced, so silent under water that they are extremely difficult, if not impossible to detect,” said a report on English-language news channel NDTV.

“But according to The Australian, the leak of the 22,000 pages has technical specifications that would make detection possible.”

General Karamat told The Australian the leakwas“mind-boggling’’.

“I can understand Australia’s concern (that the same company is building its subs),’’ said General Karamat, who was previously Pakistan’s ambassador to the US.

“I guess it’s too early to say anything but the report does mention that China and Pakistan would be interested. Indeed, anyone involved in counter measures would be most interested.’’

Retired general Talat Masood, who also served as secretary for defence production in Pakistan’s Defence Ministry, told The Australian the leak was extremely embarrassing to India and France: “The point here is that definitely Pakistan would be interested because India has been expanding its naval fleet and it would very much like to know what are the capabilities of the submarine … this document, to a large extent, would reveal that.”

He said subs were vitally importance in the region. “The Chinese are building the corridor, and so on, and also the Indians want to expand their influence on the seas and the US has been supportive of that,” he said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...s/news-story/08ee846d55965ce3d708a1a9b4c89da8

Can any Pakistani or Chinese member tell me? Anyone found that leaked papers? @Areesh @Chinese-Dragon @Nilgiri @Tipu7 @Taimoor Khan @The Eagle @The Sandman @Zibago @Imran Khan @Sheikh Rauf @Mrc @jkroo @cirr @grey boy 2 @ChineseTiger1986 @AndrewJin @Sinopakfriend @HAKIKAT @Major Sam @Hiptullha @Super Falcon @My-Analogous @Moonlight @django @LA se Karachi @Bratva @Irfan Baloch @Zarvan @Hassan Guy @Oscar @MastanKhan @Rashid Mahmood @dadeechi @Jlaw @Spy Master @T-Rex @idune @shah1398 @User @dsr478 @TheGreatOne @salarsikander @maximuswarrior @Max @HAIDER @DESERT FIGHTER @Penguin @Windjammer @I S I @dexter @Doordie @LadyFinger @Spring Onion @Mentee @Mr.Meap @Azlan Haider @Genghis khan1 @Sarge @Ghareeb_Da_Baal @EAK @Khan_21 @Narendra Trump

On serious note: How damaging it is 4 India? What are the implications of such massive leaks?

They may cancel the +3 additional subs that are to be build and may switch equipments or change the frequencies of intelligence gathering.Other than that everything else would only be a face saving measure for MOD since all six subs are in various levels of construction and cancelling them would be detrimental if not catastrophic to Indian maritime scenario.

 

[The Sandman]

Obv i guess every secret agency would love to get their hands on them
@Nilgiri @Mentee remember i told you guys i am a double agent? ifynwim

 

[Mrc]

Significantly damaging... knowing capabilities and weakness of a particular system allows you to exploit that knowledge and explore the weaknesses...
I would be surprised if documents are not already in chinese and pakistani hands

 

[Nilgiri]

• The Australian

• 12:00AM August 26, 2016 GREG BEARUP South Asia correspondent @gbearup

Pakistani and Chinese spy agencies would be doing all they could to get their hands on leaked documents that reveal the capabilities of India’s new submarine fleet, according to two former high-ranking Pakistani generals.

That was if they didn’t already have the documents, they said.

Former Pakistani army chief Jehangir Karamat said Australia should be “concerned” about using the same French firm, DCNS, to manufacture its subs.

The report in the The Australian this week about a 22,000-page leak containing the specifications of a French-designed sub destined for the Indian Navy has been the lead story on Indian television and on the front pages of its newspapers.

“India assesses vulnerability of Scorpene submarines after a leak of secret data,’’ said the headline on the Hindustan Times, while The Hindu led with a story about the sloppy handling of the highly sensitive documents by DCNS: “Not a tight ship, submarine project leaked like a sieve.”

Indian politicians and defence officials are fuming and are hunting the source of the leak while trying to assess the damage.

“The French-designed subs are so advanced, so silent under water that they are extremely difficult, if not impossible to detect,” said a report on English-language news channel NDTV.

“But according to The Australian, the leak of the 22,000 pages has technical specifications that would make detection possible.”

General Karamat told The Australian the leakwas“mind-boggling’’.

“I can understand Australia’s concern (that the same company is building its subs),’’ said General Karamat, who was previously Pakistan’s ambassador to the US.

“I guess it’s too early to say anything but the report does mention that China and Pakistan would be interested. Indeed, anyone involved in counter measures would be most interested.’’

Retired general Talat Masood, who also served as secretary for defence production in Pakistan’s Defence Ministry, told The Australian the leak was extremely embarrassing to India and France: “The point here is that definitely Pakistan would be interested because India has been expanding its naval fleet and it would very much like to know what are the capabilities of the submarine … this document, to a large extent, would reveal that.”

He said subs were vitally importance in the region. “The Chinese are building the corridor, and so on, and also the Indians want to expand their influence on the seas and the US has been supportive of that,” he said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...s/news-story/08ee846d55965ce3d708a1a9b4c89da8

Can any Pakistani or Chinese member tell me? Anyone found that leaked papers? @Areesh @Chinese-Dragon @Nilgiri @Tipu7 @Taimoor Khan @The Eagle @The Sandman @Zibago @Imran Khan @Sheikh Rauf @Mrc @jkroo @cirr @grey boy 2 @ChineseTiger1986 @AndrewJin @Sinopakfriend @HAKIKAT @Major Sam @Hiptullha @Super Falcon @My-Analogous @Moonlight @django @LA se Karachi @Bratva @Irfan Baloch @Zarvan @Hassan Guy @Oscar @MastanKhan @Rashid Mahmood @dadeechi @Jlaw @Spy Master @T-Rex @idune @shah1398 @User @dsr478 @TheGreatOne @salarsikander @maximuswarrior @Max @HAIDER @DESERT FIGHTER @Penguin @Windjammer @I S I @dexter @Doordie @LadyFinger @Spring Onion @Mentee @Mr.Meap @Azlan Haider @Genghis khan1 @Sarge @Ghareeb_Da_Baal @EAK @Khan_21 @Narendra Trump

On serious note: How damaging it is 4 India? What are the implications of such massive leaks?

Please read here little bro:

https://defence.pk/threads/sensitive-data-of-indian-navy’s-scorpene-class-submarines-leaked.445677/

@waz can we combine threads?

Unless you want to discuss specifically from context of Pakistan. In which case, people will have to bring up specific points on the "leak" and tag me. Thanks!

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Pak has this gambler's luck of getting unexpected gifts. Be it Tomahawk or stealth chopper or Indian saboteurs against CPEC or Mr. Modi's policy statements to undertake terrorist activities or something else..

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Please read here little bro:

https://defence.pk/threads/sensitive-data-of-indian-navy’s-scorpene-class-submarines-leaked.445677/

@waz can we combine threads?

Unless you want to discuss specifically from context of Pakistan. In which case, people will have to bring up specific points on the "leak" and tag me. Thanks!

Yes...It will be good if discussed from the context of Pakistan.....

 

[Mrc]

Pak has this gambler's luck of getting unexpected gifts. Be it Tomahawk or stealth chopper or Indian saboteurs against CPEC or Mr. Modi's policy statements to undertake terrorist activities or something else..

Ha ha... i ve also noted that

 

[Nilgiri]

Obv i guess every secret agency would love to get their hands on them
@Nilgiri @Mentee remember i told you guys i am a double agent? ifynwim

So it was you all along!!!

@Vergennes @PARIKRAMA : Source of leak found

 

[NKVD]

Significantly damaging... knowing capabilities and weakness of a particular system allows you to exploit that knowledge and explore the weaknesses...
I would be surprised if documents are not already in chinese and pakistani hands

System which not even Existed Yet in Physical form

 

[Nilgiri]

Yes...It will be good if discussed from the context of Pakistan.....

Ok be sure to tag me when one of your think tanks/ knowledgeable members brings up specific points after reading the main thread I posted earlier, and we will take it from there.

 

[KhyberShikan]

Any resource/URL for these docs?

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Ok be sure to tag me when one of your think tanks/ knowledgeable members brings up specific points after reading the main thread I posted earlier, and we will take it from there.

OK....