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Published: November 10 2009 08:16 | Last updated: November 10 2009 09:57

China has agreed to sell Pakistan at least 36 advanced fighter jets in a landmark deal worth as much as $1.4bn, according to Pakistani and western officials.

Beijing will supply two squadrons of the J-10 fighter jet in a preliminary agreement that could lead to more sales to Pakistan in the future, said a Pakistani official.
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The official said Pakistan might buy “larger numbers” of the multi-role aircraft in the future, but dismissed reports that Pakistan had inked a deal to buy as many as 150 of the fighter jets.

Defence experts described the agreement with China as a landmark event in Pakistan’s defence relationship with the growing military power. China’s transition from a manufacturer of low-fighters to more advanced jets comparable to some western models is seen as evidence of Beijing’s growing strategic clout in Asia.

“This agreement should not simply be seen in the narrow context of Pakistan’s relations with China,” said Abdul Qayyum, a retired Pakistani general.

“There is a wider dimension. By sharing its advanced technology with Pakistan, China is ... also saying to the world that its defence capability is growing rapidly.”

China has supplied Pakistan with fighter jets for more than three decades. But Beijing has seldom supplied Pakistan’s air force with advanced fighter aircraft. Islamabad turned to France for Mirage fighter jets in the 1970s and to the US for F-16s in the 1980s.

Pakistan has a fleet of 45 F-16s, which are built by Lockheed Martin. The Pakistani air force is using the fighter jet in its campaign against militants in South Waziristan. The US has agreed to sell Islamabad another 18 new F-16s and about a dozen older versions of the aircraft.

Over the past decade, China and Pakistan have collaborated on building their first jointly produced advanced fighter jet, known as the JF-17, or “Thunder”. Pakistan is expected to roll out the first domestically built version of the Thunder within weeks.

Pakistan’s air force plans to purchase at least 250 of the Thunder fighters over the next four to five years. Experts see the new Pakistani focus on China as a supplier of advanced fighters as evidence that Beijing is trying to expand its military power.

“Countries like Iran and possibly some of the Middle Eastern countries would be keen to deal with China if they can find technology which is comparable to the west,” said one western official in Islamabad.

“Pakistan will work as the laboratory to try out Chinese aircraft. If they work well with the Pakistani air force, others will follow.”
 
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the article was written by talented jounalist Farhan Bokhari

Back to topic , wow , this really opens up avenues for pakistan, parity with IAF will be much easier from here on

the rumour is that intially pakistan will by 36 J-10s , but follow-on orders could take the number to as high as 150
 
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the article was written by talented jounalist Farhan Bokhari

Back to topic , wow , this really opens up avenues for pakistan, parity with IAF will be much easier from here on

the rumour is that intially pakistan will by 36 J-10s , but follow-on orders could take the number to as high as 150

if Pak can really afford 150 J10s i think they should go for F16s, spending the same sum for a tested platform they are familiar with.
 
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But JF17 platform is long run learning project and establish basic foundation of avionics infrastructure. This project totally in control of PAF. They can make changes according to their environment. No bugs attached to its modification. No seal of warranty.
 
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Awsome news PAF is playing there cards right this time lets see wat pops out of the hat next!! GOD bless..
 
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Selling to Iran will surely meet big pressure from USA. China even hesitates to sell to NKorea.

Love to see how PAF tests out the plane in real world.
 
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It is a bad idea to always buy, buy, and buy. Indians like it, however.

It is much better to be capable to design & manufacture it yourselves.

I would like to see China transfers technologies to Pakistanis so that Pakistanis can do it themselves.

:partay:
 
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China has supplied Pakistan with fighter jets for more than three decades. But Beijing has seldom supplied Pakistan’s air force with advanced fighter aircraft. Islamabad turned to France for Mirage fighter jets in the 1970s and to the US for F-16s in the 1980s...

“Pakistan will work as the laboratory to try out Chinese aircraft. If they work well with the Pakistani air force, others will follow.”

This is great news and hopefully soon it will verified by more reliable sources.

A couple of corrections:

1. Pakistan's turning to West for new tech jets was not because China declined to sale new tech jets to Pakistan but because Western tech was the platform of choice for the PAF. China has only recently developed latest fighter jets and that was also made possible with PAF's technical help.

2. PAF will not be a lab for testing new technology as PAF prefers mature technology, examples are F-86 & F-16. If there is a new fighter jet and afetr testing of the jet if PAF feels comfortable then PAF will go for the new jets. This is the case in J-10 as PAF tested these jets in China around 4-5 years ago and felt that after adding some wetern avionics these jets could do the trick.
 
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if Pak can really afford 150 J10s i think they should go for F16s, spending the same sum for a tested platform they are familiar with.

Greta idea but first F-16 C and D are more expensive plus we don't know when Pakistan will come under sanctions besides this way we have more control over supply of spares and at the same time we are supporting a valueable friend.
 
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“Pakistan will work as the laboratory to try out Chinese aircraft. If they work well with the Pakistani air force, others will follow.”

i loved this part from the above article :pakistan::pakistan::pakistan:
 
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awesome i hope we get tht DAMN J11B add some french or german.Coz the german will be kind towards our evil plans LOL as we would be buyin subs from them same reasons go to france...JUST HOPE WE DONT GO THE AMERICAN WAY?
Any news abt our procurement order of eurotigers attack hellos from the french? THANKS
VIPER
 
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Pakistan-China in $1.4 billion fighter jet deal

Daily Times Monitor

LAHORE: China has agreed to sell Pakistan at least 36 advanced fighter jets in a landmark deal worth as much as $1.4bn, Pakistani and western officials said on Tuesday.

China will supply two squadrons of J-10 fighter planes in a preliminary agreement, which could lead to further sales in future, a Pakistani official said.

The official added that Pakistan might buy “larger numbers” of the planes in the future, but denied reports that Pakistan had agreed to buy 150 jets.

Experts describe the agreement as a “landmark” in Pak-China relations.

“The agreement should not simply be seen in the narrow context of Pakistan’s relations with China,” said Abdul Qayyum, a retired Pakistani general. “There is a wider dimension. By sharing its advanced technology with Pakistan, China is ... also saying to the world that its defence capability is growing rapidly.”

China has supplied Pakistan with fighter jets for more than three decades. Experts said the sales would be evidence of China looking to expand its military power. “Countries like Iran and possibly some of the Middle Eastern countries would be keen to deal with China,” said one western official in Islamabad.
 
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Pakistan-China in $1.4 billion fighter jet deal

Daily Times Monitor

LAHORE: China has agreed to sell Pakistan at least 36 advanced fighter jets in a landmark deal worth as much as $1.4bn, Pakistani and western officials said on Tuesday.

China will supply two squadrons of J-10 fighter planes in a preliminary agreement, which could lead to further sales in future, a Pakistani official said.

The official added that Pakistan might buy “larger numbers” of the planes in the future, but denied reports that Pakistan had agreed to buy 150 jets.

Experts describe the agreement as a “landmark” in Pak-China relations.

“The agreement should not simply be seen in the narrow context of Pakistan’s relations with China,” said Abdul Qayyum, a retired Pakistani general. “There is a wider dimension. By sharing its advanced technology with Pakistan, China is ... also saying to the world that its defence capability is growing rapidly.”

China has supplied Pakistan with fighter jets for more than three decades. Experts said the sales would be evidence of China looking to expand its military power. “Countries like Iran and possibly some of the Middle Eastern countries would be keen to deal with China,” said one western official in Islamabad.

The biggest problem with the J-10 is that we don't make them enough. Customers are lining up but the production can hardly satisfy China's own airforce right now. Urgent investment is needed.
 
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