Pakistan buys additional medium-range SAMs

[Mrc]

This thing looks pretty Badass.

So in this video it is shooting down a russian made yaknut missile...

Since ultra super extremely superior champion no comparison brahmos is actually yaknut with minutely minor modifications......

Does that would mean that hq 16 can intercept brahmos as well??

( what did i just say? Why did i not turn to stone before thinking such thing?)

 

[Genghis khan1]

So in this video it is shooting down a russian made yaknut missile...

Since ultra super extremely superior champion no comparison brahmos is actually yaknut with minutely minor modifications......

Does that would mean that hq 16 can intercept brahmos as well??

( what did i just say? Why did i not turn to stone before thinking such thing?)

lol. As per my info, Supersonic and Hypersonic missiles are easy to intercept because they are less maneuverable and therefore more predictable. If I am not wrong, some of these Pakistani SAMs, explode in vicinity and release shrapnel to destroy their target. So basically, as long as they are close enough, their target is dead.

The HQ16A (LY-80) missile can intercept an aerial flying target from an 15 m to 18 km of altitude, while its maximum interception range for combat aircraft is 40km, and between 3.5 km and 12 km for cruise missiles flying at an altitude of 50 meters at a speed of 300 meters/second.

http://www.armyrecognition.com/chin...data_sheet_specifications_pictures_video.html

 

[Penguin]

Need SERIOUS up gradation on that!
However as i mentioned, plugging all the holes in low to medium level dome makes sense as well. Once that is done/completed we must look to buy some good long range SAMs even if in limited numbers.

https://books.google.nl/books?id=CY...HZVqDdoQ6AEIVDAF#v=onepage&q="hq-2b" &f=false

Just 2 units with HQ2b?

 

[Arsalan]

https://books.google.nl/books?id=CYqnBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA104&lpg=PA104&dq="hq-2b"+pakistan&source=bl&ots=7brnDeaywQ&sig=MW6yLjmfdXotPLYc25JbC6J-sOY&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwig0e2E78rOAhWK7hoKHZVqDdoQ6AEIVDAF#v=onepage&q="hq-2b" &f=false

Just 2 units with HQ2b?

It is reported like that plus that is quite an old systems as well so we need to upgrade on both quality as well as quantity.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

It covers approaches to Islamabad and Rawalpindi.

Shouldn't this site be secret???

 

[Penguin]

It is reported like that plus that is quite an old systems as well so we need to upgrade on both quality as well as quantity.

PAF wiki mentions 12 batteries. I wonder if that doesn't mean 12 launchers = 2 sites.

Shouldn't this site be secret???

Maybe. It is on google earth today and it was so in 2007. But not blurred out. It's a classic Sa-2 fixed site layout, so the only 'sensitive' thing is the exact location.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Shouldn't this site be secret???

most current sams are either masked are either shoot and scoot. systems. also the secret and hidden things are in places where you least expect to find them.

 

[Arsalan]

PAF wiki mentions 12 batteries. I wonder if that doesn't mean 12 launchers = 2 sites.

I remember reading about one site only, the Islamabad one but then there is some little memories about something in Jehlum or perhaps Karachi, i really cannot put my finger on it. Will look it up and see what we can find!

 

[Gryphon]

PAKISTAN’S HQ-16 SURFACE-TO-AIR MISSILE PLANS

Daily News
Bilal Khan
Aug 17, 2016

In its most recent annual publication, the Pakistan Ministry of Defence Production (MoDP) disclosed that the armed forces had procured six LY-80 (i.e. HQ-16) surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems from China for $373 million U.S. in fiscal year 2014-2015.

This acquisition appears to be a follow-on from the armed forces’ initial HQ-16 order, which took place in 2013-2014 (for three HQ-16 SAM systems for $226 million and eight IBIS-150 radars for $40 million).

Produced by China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp (CASC), the HQ-16 (export designation: LY-80) is a medium-range SAM system with a maximum intercept range of 40km (Army Recognition).

Each HQ-16 system is reportedly comprised of a command and control vehicle, tracking and guidance radar vehicle, target search radar vehicle, and missile launchers.

The HQ-16 missile itself carries a 70kg warhead and is guided by a semi-active radar-homing (SARH) seeker (which will work in conjunction with the SAM system’s tracking and guidance radar). The missile is also used as a vertically-launched naval SAM in the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN).

Comment and Analysis

It is not clear how many launchers are included within each HQ-16 system. Numerous web sources have suggested that each HQ-16 battery comprises of four launchers (as shown on an illustration provided by Army Recognition), but no official information on this issue is readily available.

If the number of IBIS-150 radars (maximum range: 130km) is an indication of the number of batteries ordered by Pakistan, then a total of nine batteries (or systems) are in the procurement pipeline. Based on this information, the HQ-16 is on-track to forming the medium-range layer of Pakistan’s land-based integrated air defence system (IADS).

It is worth noting that the above mentioned information is based on the activities of fiscal year 2014-2015, and not the current year. This is an important consideration because another air defence system deal was reportedly on the table in May 2016. Specifics were not given, but it would be safe to assume that this new contract would involve the HQ-16 and/or short-range HQ-7 (in use by the Pakistan Army), though one could speculate that this new deal is in reference to the HQ-9 long-range SAM system.

PAKISTAN’S HQ-16 SURFACE-TO-AIR MISSILE PLANS | Quwa

 

[Hell hound]

PAKISTAN’S HQ-16 SURFACE-TO-AIR MISSILE PLANS

Daily News
Bilal Khan
Aug 17, 2016

In its most recent annual publication, the Pakistan Ministry of Defence Production (MoDP) disclosed that the armed forces had procured six LY-80 (i.e. HQ-16) surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems from China for $373 million U.S. in fiscal year 2014-2015.

This acquisition appears to be a follow-on from the armed forces’ initial HQ-16 order, which took place in 2013-2014 (for three HQ-16 SAM systems for $226 million and eight IBIS-150 radars for $40 million).

Produced by China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp (CASC), the HQ-16 (export designation: LY-80) is a medium-range SAM system with a maximum intercept range of 40km (Army Recognition).

Each HQ-16 system is reportedly comprised of a command and control vehicle, tracking and guidance radar vehicle, target search radar vehicle, and missile launchers.

The HQ-16 missile itself carries a 70kg warhead and is guided by a semi-active radar-homing (SARH) seeker (which will work in conjunction with the SAM system’s tracking and guidance radar). The missile is also used as a vertically-launched naval SAM in the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN).

Comment and Analysis

It is not clear how many launchers are included within each HQ-16 system. Numerous web sources have suggested that each HQ-16 battery comprises of four launchers (as shown on an illustration provided by Army Recognition), but no official information on this issue is readily available.

If the number of IBIS-150 radars (maximum range: 130km) is an indication of the number of batteries ordered by Pakistan, then a total of nine batteries (or systems) are in the procurement pipeline. Based on this information, the HQ-16 is on-track to forming the medium-range layer of Pakistan’s land-based integrated air defence system (IADS).

It is worth noting that the above mentioned information is based on the activities of fiscal year 2014-2015, and not the current year. This is an important consideration because another air defence system deal was reportedly on the table in May 2016. Specifics were not given, but it would be safe to assume that this new contract would involve the HQ-16 and/or short-range HQ-7 (in use by the Pakistan Army), though one could speculate that this new deal is in reference to the HQ-9 long-range SAM system.

PAKISTAN’S HQ-16 SURFACE-TO-AIR MISSILE PLANS | Quwa

i did some research bro and found out hq 16 is also semi active sam system like spada.these systems are extremely prone to jamming as pointed out by @Bilal Khan 777 in his old posts.while others are moving toward missile with aesa seekers we are still stuck with semi active one let alone active missiles.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

i did some research bro and found out hq 16 is also semi active sam system like spada.these systems are extremely prone to jamming as pointed out by @Bilal Khan 777 in his old posts.while others are moving toward missile with aesa seekers we are still stuck with semi active one let alone active missiles.

Stop gap measure, and purchased due to low interest loans from China. The Chinese use Pakistan as a demonstration ground. However, having Sams is better than not having any. The Pakistan specific version is active homing, and also IR variants for terminal.

 

[Tipu7]

What is your stance regarding Hq9 in Pakistan inventory?

Stop gap measure, and purchased due to low interest loans from China. The Chinese use Pakistan as a demonstration ground. However, having Sams is better than not having any. The Pakistan specific version is active homing, and also IR variants for terminal.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

What is your stance regarding Hq9 in Pakistan inventory?

HQ9, or the many derivates of S300 PMU series, is inevitable for Pakistan. Pakistan seems to headed on acquiring this HiMAD system on the same lines as the Hatf series, where they will be procured and indigenized.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

HQ9, or the many derivates of S300 PMU series, is inevitable for Pakistan. Pakistan seems to headed on acquiring this HiMAD system on the same lines as the Hatf series, where they will be procured and indigenized.

Any thoughts on when Pakistan will be able fully indigenise and produce them locally? My guess would be around 10-15 years. Depending on the economy of course.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

Any thoughts on when Pakistan will be able fully indigenise and produce them locally? My guess would be around 10-15 years. Depending on the economy of course.

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