Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

[Beast]

PAKISTAN EXPANDS VT-4 DEAL BY HUNDREDS MORE TANKS, TRANSFER OF TECHNOLOGY
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I think it makes sense. If PA buys in certain large number. There is no reason China will refuse TOT since the huge amount from the deal will be enough to cover the R&D for this tank.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

State-owned Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) corporation has exercised follow-up options signed during its original order for 300 VT-4 Third-Generation Main Battle Tanks in 2017 with China.
These options constitute 160 additional units, most of which will be locally assembled with kits imported from Norinco. This increases the buy order to a total of 460 tanks. Additionally, the HIT has successfully acquired, and implemented a transfer-of-technology agreement and will thus build an additional 110 upgraded VT-4 tanks at Taxila with completely indigenous equipment and components. This increases the total VT-4 order for the Pakistan Army’s Armoured Corps to 570 units. In addition, the HIT has signed follow-up options for a further 110 completely indigenously-built units, which will be most likely exercised in the future, increasing the total order in the next few years to a total of 680 VT-4s.

 

[Ali_Baba]

State-owned Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) corporation has exercised follow-up options signed during its original order for 300 VT-4 Third-Generation Main Battle Tanks in 2017 with China.
These options constitute 160 additional units, most of which will be locally assembled with kits imported from Norinco. This increases the buy order to a total of 460 tanks. Additionally, the HIT has successfully acquired, and implemented a transfer-of-technology agreement and will thus build an additional 110 upgraded VT-4 tanks at Taxila with completely indigenous equipment and components. This increases the total VT-4 order for the Pakistan Army’s Armoured Corps to 570 units. In addition, the HIT has signed follow-up options for a further 110 completely indigenously-built units, which will be most likely exercised in the future, increasing the total order in the next few years to a total of 680 VT-4s.
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No sign of a self defence system?

 

[iLION12345_1]

No sign of a self defence system?

Won’t be any for a while.

State-owned Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) corporation has exercised follow-up options signed during its original order for 300 VT-4 Third-Generation Main Battle Tanks in 2017 with China.
These options constitute 160 additional units, most of which will be locally assembled with kits imported from Norinco. This increases the buy order to a total of 460 tanks. Additionally, the HIT has successfully acquired, and implemented a transfer-of-technology agreement and will thus build an additional 110 upgraded VT-4 tanks at Taxila with completely indigenous equipment and components. This increases the total VT-4 order for the Pakistan Army’s Armoured Corps to 570 units. In addition, the HIT has signed follow-up options for a further 110 completely indigenously-built units, which will be most likely exercised in the future, increasing the total order in the next few years to a total of 680 VT-4s.
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Confirmed this nearly two months ago already

 

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PAC local Male drone according to my reports is dead.

It's still alive. Just not on steroids.

 

[syed_yusuf]

State-owned Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) corporation has exercised follow-up options signed during its original order for 300 VT-4 Third-Generation Main Battle Tanks in 2017 with China.
These options constitute 160 additional units, most of which will be locally assembled with kits imported from Norinco. This increases the buy order to a total of 460 tanks. Additionally, the HIT has successfully acquired, and implemented a transfer-of-technology agreement and will thus build an additional 110 upgraded VT-4 tanks at Taxila with completely indigenous equipment and components. This increases the total VT-4 order for the Pakistan Army’s Armoured Corps to 570 units. In addition, the HIT has signed follow-up options for a further 110 completely indigenously-built units, which will be most likely exercised in the future, increasing the total order in the next few years to a total of 680 VT-4s.
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good news, i hope they can complete this number in in next 3-4 years to keep the cost down and capability superiority vis-a-vis india

 

[DeusExAstra]

Hello again) Does anyone know if some VT4 were already in production by HIT?

Saw this photo, not sure

Spoiler

 

[Tipu7]

Hello again) Does anyone know if some VT4 were already in production by HIT?

Saw this photo, not sure

Spoiler

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Its from IDEAS, not HIT.

 

[iLION12345_1]

Hello again) Does anyone know if some VT4 were already in production by HIT?

Saw this photo, not sure

Spoiler

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VT-4s are already in production (only assembly at the moment, will switch to actual production eventually) at HIT. This one is from IDEAS however, not produced at HIT.

It could be that this one was assembled at HIT, in which case it would be one of the earliest if not the first, but more likely this is just one that was directly delivered by China, and HIT is displaying it because they are going to be producing the tank locally.

 

[Princeps Senatus]

@iLION12345_1 Do you know why we didn't opt for side mounted ERA with VT-4?

 

[PanzerKiel]

@iLION12345_1 Do you know why we didn't opt for side mounted ERA with VT-4?View attachment 896193

Who says we didnt opt?

 

[iLION12345_1]

@iLION12345_1 Do you know why we didn't opt for side mounted ERA with VT-4?View attachment 896193

Note FY2 ERA on the brochure, it’s the older VT-4.
PAs VT-4s had FY4 before it was even offered for export. The difference between FY4 and FY2 is as they say “Zameen Asman Ka farq”

That being said, VT-4 has enough power to be equipped with Side ERA, and PA can opt to equip them at any moment if they want, it’s a modular thing, can even be done in the field if necessary.
Not sure if they’d Put FY4 on the sides though, maybe AORAK or FY2, depends on how much it effects mobility.

I personally think in the case of an actual conflict it would be one of the first modifications PA would do to its MBTs when they realize how vulnerable the sides can be.

 

[alimobin memon]

Note FY2 ERA on the brochure, it’s the older VT-4.
PAs VT-4s had FY4 before it was even offered for export. The difference between FY4 and FY2 is as they say “Zameen Asman Ka farq”

That being said, VT-4 has enough power to be equipped with Side ERA, and PA can opt to equip them at any moment if they want, it’s a modular thing, can even be done in the field if necessary.
Not sure if they’d Put FY4 on the sides though, maybe AORAK or FY2, depends on how much it effects mobility.

I personally think in the case of an actual conflict it would be one of the first modifications PA would do to its MBTs when they realize how vulnerable the sides can be.

They have added 1500 hp for pa tanks maybe the reason is side armour with era.

Between what is ak protection level now not just front also side armour ?

 

[iLION12345_1]

They have added 1500 hp for pa tanks maybe the reason is side armour with era.

Between what is ak protection level now not just front also side armour ?

PA VT4s have 1200HP engine like all VT-4s, 1500HP was a myth. 1200 is more than enough for it to carry side-ERA. Even if it’s FY4 and not FY2, but regardless, it will slow the tank down a bit, any weight will.

AK protection level has been the same since it was introduced in 2001, it has not seen any armor changes, at least none significant enough to mention. It used to carry side ERA once upon a time and was even seen with a somewhat decent side armor package, but it never saw widespread use. PA can still equip them with armor/ERA on the side if it wants to, it’s just a question of wether the mobility trade off is worth it for them. As for exact armor numbers, nobody can give you those for the AK, not even most of HIT, and what’s on the internet is nearly all false, I can tell you this much, it can withstand its own APFSDS followed by its own HEAT projectile (and the other way around, which is a much harder thing to do given how HEAT messes with composite armor) on the turret, without ERA.

 

[Princeps Senatus]

It used to carry side ERA once upon a time and was even seen with a somewhat decent side armor package, but it never saw widespread use.

Do you have a photo?