Pakistan Army's T-129 ATAK Helicopter Deal | Updates & Discussions.

[RAMPAGE]

I really doubt you personally have the blue prints, if you have got it from someone in the Pakistani military then it reflects badly on their professionalism.

And blue print isn't the only thing, there is engine technology, manufacturing procedure, NATO standard equipment, sensors, radars, weapons, not only can these things be copied, but can also be used to make effective countermeasures.

o bhai all of these designs were hacked by the chinese govt a couple of years back !!!!!

 

[Roybot]

o bhai all of these designs were hacked by the chinese govt a couple of years back !!!!!

O really? And you are privvy to this information somehow?

 

[RAMPAGE]

O really? And you are privvy to this information somehow?

As a matter of fact i am.

The chinese have the Apache/Black Hawk designs and blueprints !!!

Here's sum pics from this forum :

The stealthy black hawk was given to china by Pakistan !!!!!!!

 

[Roybot]

As a matter of fact i am.

The chinese have the Apache/Black Hawk designs and blueprints !!!

Here's sum pics from this forum :

The stealthy black hawk was given to china by Pakistan !!!!!!!

LMAO you are so naive, its called a mock up.

"US Army apache" chilling in a Chinese defence expo park

And yes there is always a great risk of US and NATO technology falling into the hands of the Chinese via Pakistan, exactly why PAkistan has been denied western technology on so many occasions. Thank you for supporting the point I was trying to raise.

 

[Kompromat]

It is Mashallah a great great news! Congratulations Pakistan... Congratulations Turkey.


A Question:
What are the numbers for Roketsan and its products being part of the deal? Is ammunition part of TOT?

Too early to say, however Pakistan is interested in both cirit and variants of OMTAS/UMTAS.

 

[RAMPAGE]

LMAO you are so naive, its called a mock up.

US Army apache chilling in a Chinese defence expo park

And yes there is always a great risk of US and NATO technology falling into the hands of the Chinese via Pakistan, exactly why PAkistan has been denied western technology on so many occasions. Thank you for supporting the point I was trying to raise.

lolzzzzz forget the pics ... random pics don't prove anything ... urs or mine ..... but the fact is that these designs were hacked by the chinese and they possess the technology !!!!

If your saying that Nato countries are ahead of china in terms of tec than u my friend are kidding urself !!!

 

[Roybot]

If your saying that Nato countries are ahead of china in terms of tec than u my friend are kidding urself !!!

And you are living in denial. Even the Chinese accept that European and American tech is superior to theirs. Lets just agree to disagree.

 

[That Guy]

This baby can have a future in PA.

I hope we go for this one too !!!!

When the platform is more mature and China is will to give ToT, maybe, but right now it's...iffy.

lolzzzzz forget the pics ... random pics don't prove anything ... urs or mine ..... but the fact is that these designs were hacked by the chinese and they possess the technology !!!!

If your saying that Nato countries are ahead of china in terms of tec than u my friend are kidding urself !!!

Actually, for once I have to agree with @Roybot. The Chinese fully and openly admit this. That's not to say that China isn't catching up, they've been making massive progress, but they're still not at the level of most NATO nations.

The US also feel that their tech may end up falling into Chinese hands, which is why the US is only willing to part with what it feels are old and obsolete technologies, and even then with massive restrictions. Remember the restrictions placed on the PAF F-16 Blk 52s and the reason why the US refuses to sell the predator to Pakistan?

 

[RAMPAGE]

When the platform is more mature and China is will to give ToT, maybe, but right now it's...iffy.

Yara 60 WZ-10's are already in service. this isn't mature enough for you ???

 

[That Guy]

Yara 60 WZ-10's are already in service. this isn't mature enough for you ???

If it's good enough for China, it doesn't mean that it's good enough for Pakistan. The Chinese are trying to give service time to the platform as quickly as possible, which is why they're putting them in service on a large scale, this does NOT mean that the system is ready.

 

[Zarvan]

Too early to say, however Pakistan is interested in both cirit and variants of OMTAS/UMTAS.

What is OMTAS and UMTAS and I think we should have at least 24 off these and in future 24 Z-10

 

[Gessler]

Turkey can call deal on this chopper according to deal with Agust Westland.
just US engine produced in turkey is issue.
dont know wether turkey has rights to sell this engine or not but probably they should have rights.
The IRST,Mission computer,Friend & foe system,ice detection system,emergency locator transmittor,source codes & programs all are Turkish along with Avionics.
even batch 2 used Turkish HMDS.……
Turkey produce anti tank and anti perdonnels missiles too.
dont know about anti aircraft weapons.
it can carry al major and popular westren missiles like hellfire,Aim-7,Stringer and some French and German anti tank missiles too.

You just repeated what I said.

BTW, what the heck is an anti-perdonnels missile?

 

[Kompromat]

ASELSAN Avcı HMCS

 

[Kompromat]

ROKETSAN - FN Herstal airborne Cirit 2.75" laser guided rocket launcher + grenade launcher pod

 

[Amaa'n]

so is it confirmed that we will be building T129 at PAC or still a rumor??

Too early to say, however Pakistan is interested in both cirit and variants of OMTAS/UMTAS.