Pakistan Army testing MBT-3000 next moth ?

[Kompromat]

HIT is installing a customized version of Rehbar BMS in UDs as well. They did so with Alzarrars

Does it have encrypted data link?

 

[Dazzler]

Different weight classes. VT-4 (MBT-3K) is more suitable for their replacements.

@Dazzler | I've been told that Pakistan has tested ZTZ-99 but its temperature tolerance among other things didn't impress PA. What upgrades would we need to make into the VT-4 design for Desert Optimization?

never heard of type-99 being tested here, maybe they did, no idea. However, the 150HB series engines installed in both 99s and MBT 3000 have been troublesome since long. I hope they have rectified overheating and black smoke issues, thought he video suggests otherwise.

Does it have encrypted data link?

yes it does.

 

[Armstrong]

nope, at $5 million a pop, even baseline AK is not feasible.

How much is this MBT 3000 worth ?

And how much is a T-80 UD priced at ?

 

[Dazzler]

How much is this MBT 3000 worth ?

i suspect between 5.5-6 million

And how much is a T-80 UD priced at ?

should be 2-2.5 million

 

[Armstrong]

i suspect between 5.5-6 million

Then whats the logic of exploring the possibility of acquiring MBT-3000s to replace our Type 59s when they're priced in the same range as the Al-Khalid base model ?

should be 2-2.5 million

If the above figure is true wouldn't it be more prudent to acquire additional T-80 UDs with such upgrades that it pushes the price up by a million at max while incorporating the rest in a phased manner ?

Assuming that the T-80 UDs are fine tanks as they are !

 

[Dazzler]

Then whats the logic of exploring the possibility of acquiring MBT-3000s to replace our Type 59s when they're priced in the same range as the Al-Khalid base model ?



If the above figure is true wouldn't it be more prudent to acquire additional T-80 UDs with such upgrades that it pushes the price up by a million at max while incorporating the rest in a phased manner ?

Assuming that the T-80 UDs are fine tanks as they are !

MBT 3000 is yet to be tested, not entered service, they may evaluate them and compare with price performance.
UDs have several limitations in turret and upgradation, not feasible to buy more, ukraine also do not produce them anymore, rather BM Oplot series which is more expensive and order fulfilment takes more time due to ongoing crisis in ukraine.

 

[Zarvan]

MBT 3000 is yet to be tested, not entered service, they may evaluate them and compare with price performance.
UDs have several limitations in turret and upgradation, not feasible to buy more, ukraine also do not produce them anymore, rather BM Oplot series which is more expensive and order fulfilment takes more time due to ongoing crisis in ukraine.

Well HKHAN also said we are going to induct an IFV please discuss that too @Dazzler @Horus

 

[Kompromat]

@Dazzler | One thing i've always wanted to do is to use the AK chassis to develop a BMP-2 like vehicle.

 

[Dazzler]

@Dazzler | One thing i've always wanted to do is to use the AK chassis to develop a BMP-2 like vehicle.

it can be done, provided the user is willing for it, the chassis is modular so its possible

Well HKHAN also said we are going to induct an IFV please discuss that too @Dazzler @Horus

it is a good wheeled system, something we lack, should serve us well

 

[Bratva]

@Dazzler The FCS of Zarrar is reverse engineered from T-80UD FCS, is it true ?

 

[atlantis_cn]

never heard of type-99 being tested here, maybe they did, no idea. However, the 150HB series engines installed in both 99s and MBT 3000 have been troublesome since long. I hope they have rectified overheating and black smoke issues, thought he video suggests otherwise.

What's wrong with black smoke? Even the Japanese Type 10 (one of the most expensive tanks in the world) produces huge black smoke.

 

[Dazzler]

@Dazzler The FCS of Zarrar is reverse engineered from T-80UD FCS, is it true ?

Nope, its indigenous system with western (german) input, better than ud.

What's wrong with black smoke? Even the Japanese Type 10 (one of the most expensive tanks in the world) produces huge black smoke.

its not good in the battlefield, gives away position at times.

 

[Zarvan]

Nope, its indigenous system with western (german) input, better than ud.



its not good in the battlefield, gives away position at times.

By the way what you think How much shape will be different off Al Khalid

 

[Dazzler]

By the way what you think How much shape will be different off Al Khalid

wait till november

 

[Luftwaffe]

In the midst of all this discussion...Are there going to be any plans in future to sell xx Number of Al-Zarrar MBT, Type 85IIAP once replacement is found. @Dazzler