Pakistan Army Should review its policy(Angoor Ada,Fencing Border,Afghan Taliban)

[Zibago]

We shall respond by f****g american interests in this region - i would prefer starvation over this humiliation.

Bharkain marna asaan hay ham to aik corrupt PM ko nahe hata sakay US to dor ki baat hey

 

[Ray_of_Hope]

hahahah yeah yeah , any city you get transferred to , get a House there in Cantt plus get everything is discounted rates , plus using your powers to break law's hahaha very hard conditions I must say lol
Either I met an Army guy or not , but I know them very well
the real hero's are those front line soldiers not those " Haad Haram " Generals who enjoy life in their Cantt Bungalows ..

Isn't it hypocricy,In your previous post you were generalizing and saying that the army wasnt anything at all except protecting their interests and now we a shift in your post...............
The rest of your post is not even worth replying to.so i'll leave it..

 

[Hell hound]

Bharkain marna asaan hay ham to aik corrupt PM ko nahe hata sakay US to dor ki baat hey

yar usa ko choro afganistan ka kiya bigar lia hay hum nay na hum border mine kartey hain nah hum afganio ko pakistan say bahir nikaltey hain na hum good taliban ko hath lagatey hain (wasey yeah bc good taliban or bad taliban main ajj tak mujhay to koi faraq samjh nahi aya)
main nahi kehta kay usa say jang kro magar atleast is fasad ki ki jar afganistan ko to pakistan anay say rok lo.jab tak border mine nahi ho ga afgani wapis nahi jain gay. good or bad taliban ki tamiz khatam nahi ho gi Pakistan main terrorism asay hi rahey ga.
fauj yeah sab karney kay bajey in begarton ko or land diye ja rahi hay.

 

[Zibago]

No those Poor front Line Jawan's put their lives for the orders , they should push those Fat tummy Generals to front line .. with one blast they will piss in their pants .. as they get used to with a Luxury life ..

Nope dont generalize
http://tribune.com.pk/story/604912/ode-to-a-fallen-swat-patron/

yar usa ko choro afganistan ka kiya bigar lia hay hum nay na hum border mine kartey hain nah hum afganio ko pakistan say bahir nikaltey hain na hum good taliban ko hath lagatey hain (wasey yeah bc good taliban or bad taliban main ajj tak mujhay to koi faraq samjh nahi aya)
main nahi kehta kay usa say jang kro magar atleast is fasad ki ki jar afganistan ko to pakistan anay say rok lo.jab tak border mine nahi ho ga afgani wapis nahi jain gay. good or bad taliban ki tamiz khatam nahi ho gi Pakistan main terrorism asay hi rahey ga.
fauj yeah sab karney kay bajey in begarton ko or land diye ja rahi hay.

Ham apko kal reply karein just request others to not bitch about our country criticism of army is ok but criticism of country by comparing it to a hoe is something a patriotic Pakistani doesnot tolerate

 

[Ray_of_Hope]

No those Poor front Line Jawan's put their lives for the orders , they should push those Fat tummy Generals to front line .. with one blast they will piss in their pants .. as they get used to with a Luxury life ..

No General or any other high ranking office ever goes to the battlefield in the modern warfare in the whole world but we still have a few examples of high ranking general or even COAS going into the battlefield..Remember Mushi spending a whole night in Kargil during the war and Raheel Shareef regularly visiting and spending days with frontline personnel.And FYI even in the WOT we have CO's of the rank of generals regularly been posted in the hot areas just behind the frontlines....
So don't let your personal hatred blind you for all the wrong reasons..Jawans do what they have to do and Generals do what they gotta do.And all the generals have done duty on the borders at sometime in the carreer...

 

[Ray_of_Hope]

Jawan's do what they are asked to do .. and Generals do what they are paid to do ...(from US)

rest of your post is not worth of reply .. PEACE

BS.....

 

[Hell hound]

Died in a IED attack , not fighting..

sir ever heard of hierarchy and its importance in centralized command structure.every position and its role is defined.people in high position like his are supposed to do strategic planing not patrolling of the border.it will be waste of the resources
why do you want higher command in the field in first place their utility in the patrolling will be piss poor and you will need more men for security detail ,the patrolling team will tend to be risk averse and will be at high security risk because of the high ranking commander.on other hand put those foot soldiers in GHQ and see what happens to your defense.
brother everyone is in his proper place.i agree there are few black sheep in the institution but it don't justify the restructuring of the whole army.

 

[Hell hound]

The Army has only one Job to do .. Protecting Pakistan and they failed every time .. what else I should expect from them ? more songs from ISPR , more card boards Taliban Shooting with high definition camera's .. they should be stripped from their Positions ..

i am angry at them too brother but for giving away our land to those ungrateful afgani dogs but this is not the way.it will do far more harm then good.

 

[Hell hound]

I am mad at them for selling off this country to every bidder .. plus I feel Pity for those who Worship Army Generals as their God .. even after they sold us out, they won't see them as Corrupt People but just shouting Pakistan Army Zindabad , and those Generals were just laughing at them ..

because common Pakistani don't know his power they think that they need some generals or politicians to save them but in reality all they need is become aware of their right and power.look what happened when KSA wanted our military and parliament rejected it. KSA was powerless and our army had a solid reason for ksa that our people don't want us in this war.make our institution strong and accountable for every action.we Pakistani are to be blamed for not demanding accountability through proper channels from these politicians and generals. believe me media is not the proper channel.

 

[Lucky Breeze]

Mehran truck to takar marey to truck ko kuch nahe hota

laikin agar mehran (Pak) truck (USA) ky agy lag jye tb bhi mehran ka kuch ni bachta. Bahtar hai side sy guzar ky safe lane ( china) dhoond li jye.

 

[BRAVO_]

Oh the war wont be physical we shoot their drone they put sanctions on us,entire world media goes bonkers and our so called allies too will join in the sanctions

i beg to differ regarding economic sanctions, incase of iran United states sanctioned them for years and they came out of it as a strongest power of Middle east, their influence is far more deeper than earlier when they were in US camp, shiat power could be apparently seen now in Lebanon , iraq, Bahrain , Mantaka Sharqya (KSA), Yemen and obviously in Syria. while those who were american allies (KSA etc) are facing the enemies right at their gates and their beloved America is sitting miles away. if iran was having the power of petro items then, Pakistan is having the power of strategic location which could be used as a key strength.

Further Pakistan is a importing country and major source of Pakistani income is the remittances of over seas Pakistanis which is reaching now up to almost 19 Billions $ on the other hand pakistan is exporting to US 3.7 Billon every year and its imports from America is 1.6 Billion $. American has already reduced the economic assistance of Pakistan significantly and whatever they have paid to Pakistan in shape of assistance was much more lessor than our sufferings, this is something everybody knows. After Nuclear tests, Pakstani went through sanctions our economy growth was almost similar as it is now, so i dont think sanctions will change much in to pakistani economy but they will change the entire american policy in the region and they will never able to obtain any of their goal in future.

 

[313baberali]

Drones Drones DRONES
WAr with Us or India

Drones/war are way far to talk about.First ,discuss what we claim always ,we never prove it.Question is do we really have control on people we think they support Pak or no danger for Pak? Seems Pak officals completely fooled by US ,CIA launched double agents in the form of Afghan Talibans or Haqqanies and Pak thinking ,it have influence on them.
@BRAVO_ @HttpError
@Ray_of_Hope @Hell hound @Lucky Breeze

@Zibago "Motors ki ping pong" .Do you know 95% of this ping pong is because of India want to establish bunkers or fencing right on the Line of control ,which Pak not allow and start firing so they can not make it.But our officals should learn from India to build fences and walls inside the Pak territory not on the shared border with afghanistan.Ur mullah omar is dead,mansoor is dead.now Afgh is part of chahbahar port.Now what military officials thinks to wait for next thousand years? Recent fencing right on the border means our officals have no idea what afghans are.Afghans never allow it,but if Pak build few km inside its the best option.As india did multiple layers in kashmir.

 

[Zibago]

Drones Drones DRONES
WAr with Us or India

Drones/war are way far to talk about.First ,discuss what we claim always ,we never prove it.Question is do we really have control on people we think they support Pak or no danger for Pak? Seems Pak officals completely fooled by US ,CIA launched double agents in the form of Afghan Talibans or Haqqanies and Pak thinking ,it have influence on them.
@BRAVO_ @HttpError
@Ray_of_Hope @Hell hound @Lucky Breeze

@Zibago "Motors ki ping pong" .Do you know 95% of this ping pong is because of India want to establish bunkers or fencing right on the Line of control ,which Pak not allow and start firing so they can not make it.But our officals should learn from India to build fences and walls inside the Pak territory not on the shared border with afghanistan.Ur mullah omar is dead,mansoor is dead.now Afgh is part of chahbahar port.Now what military officials thinks to wait for next thousand years? Recent fencing right on the border means our officals have no idea what afghans are.Afghans never allow it,but if Pak build few km inside its the best option.As india did multiple layers in kashmir.

Not really i am talking about the oart which is already fenced and at which India fires for no reason

 

[Zephyrus]

lol , Pakistan Army is not Defending anything .. they are defending their Housing Projects, kick backs , and kids who are mostly living outside Pakistan.. they protect their Cantonments where they live in huge Bungalows while the common people died in Drone strikes ..
Today US has start a new Chapter in Striking first in Baluchistan , and soon you will heard the news of Drone Strike in Punjab and even Karachi ..

and just wait, you will see how China React over this , cause now their so called CPEC is under direct threat from Drones .. lol you call them defenders lol they are even worse than security guards.

Wow you have earned my respect.\, the problem with this nation is that they've redefined patriotism, for them patriotism isn't the love of your country, it's the love of the army...

Pakistan Army can give whole villages to Afghanistan but can't do anything about drone strikes?
Are we this gullible?
When will our nation wake up?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Wow you have earned my respect.\, the problem with this nation is that they've redefined patriotism, for them patriotism isn't the love of your country, it's the love of the army...

Pakistan Army can give whole villages to Afghanistan but can't do anything about drone strikes?
Are we this gullible?
When will our nation wake up

And you think that Angor adda was given to the afghans? You too dumb to realise that it was a checkpost (that was established on the afghan Territory) that was handed over to the afghans ?


You are too ignorant to know that Pak still occupies afgha territories (yes we do) ? And even the Shawal operation was extended to the afghan side by SSG & the army?


No you don't because people like you don't have a single family member fighting on the front .. Unlike those who do!


You and you pal above don't know jack about army .. You clowns mocking a general who gives his life for this country?

Perks ? Really .. A general has lesser "perks" than a civilian officer of the same grade !

A general doesn't fall of a tree .. He spends his entire life for this country .. Going through PMA at 18 and retiring an old man in his 60s:.. Sees action .. faces enemy fire and the harshest weather .. Where you won't last an hour ....

It's alright to critics actions you don't consider right but not to malign an institution because of your personal bias or enmity..

Get over it.