Pakistan Army Should review its policy(Angoor Ada,Fencing Border,Afghan Taliban)

[Zibago]

I am student of Economy so please don't tell me this shit .. I am studying this topic from over 5 years now .. I don't want to discuss with people like you who think US will stop your Oxygen if you even raise your voice where you are right , and they are wrong ..

Ok than substract US and EU exports and explain how wil china compensate
https://defence.pk/threads/top-10-pakistan-exports-and-imports-to-and-from-other-countries.364652/

 

[shah1398]

Again, you are just wasting my and your time.. RD-93 Engines come back in early 2000's ...

My time is quite important though but i just loved they way U had been spinning around. I had seen the glimpses of type of a typical nooni after quite a time. I aint labeling U one though but logics are just like the same

just stop fighting guys....can't you people even communicate nicely with each other without throwing useless insults towards each other....

Specially you @leftfordead........I know you are frustrated, i m feeling same but its time for us to join our hands together and act like one, only one, like a Pakistani, like a true Pakistani.....

It only hurts to see people blaming their own country. We are in habit of finding a punching bag to vent our anger but we cross all limits while doing so. I myself havent slept properly since the incident but does it mean i start throwing abuses at my motherland?

 

[Moon]

Cantonment

Completely unrelated, but which Cantt?.

I am student of Economy so please don't tell me this shit .. I am studying this topic from over 5 years now .. I don't want to discuss with people like you who think US will stop your Oxygen if you even raise your voice where you are right , and they are wrong ..

Then you aren't studying well enough, look at Venezuela. That is what Pakistan would look like, no infrastructure and large illiterate population, coupled with crippling sanctions, you get a Venezuela.

 

[Zibago]

Completely unrelated, but which Cantt?.

Then you aren't studying well enough, look at Venezuela. That is what Pakistan would look like, no infrastructure and large illiterate population, coupled with crippling sanctions, you get a Venezuela.

Add a Nawaz Sharif and you get Somalia

 

[Syed Asif Bukhari]

admit it or not , this incident has severely damaged the morale of whole nation . this is all I can say now.

 

[313baberali]

What just happened in last 72 hours, i m still having hard time to believe in. Drone strike in Balochistan? ? ? ?

Have I gone mad? what i am seeing? drone strike in Balochistan? I am feeling very ashamed and demoralized now.

What pathetic unfortunate scenes we are seeing now. Pakistanis sitting in Islamabad and Pindi are responsible for this. Why they didn't shoot down that drone? Even blind can tell that this strike in Balochistan has lot of purposes and meanings hidden in it. God help this country.

Pakistanis have always been very prideful on their land and people but those who are ruling us, in civil and in uniform, don't have an shred of honor.

These drone strikes don't even happen in Somalia, north africa, other restless regions. This needs to stop, seriously. We have to stop it, international law does not allow to show your cow boy mentality on bordering countries, throwing bombs here and there and then fooling people with glorifying statements afterwards.

B@stards need to be reminded that you have mandate only in Afghanistan. Common Pakistanis are not at all afraid of Americans. We know how to fight for our country.

Agreed,From day1 good Talibans never lisen Pakistan,they not lisen request of Pak to handover osama,inshort Mansoor in Pak means we not protecting G.T ,so our guy is shootdown in our home.lets recall haqqani son was gun downed in islamabad.seriously its not NDS its CIA .tightening grip.we might soon see drone attack in Islamabad and surroundings.

 

[shah1398]

I live in Karachi , and I support no Party .. not even PTI , what I am saying has nothing to do with Political Parties but those FAT A$$ generals who take a chunk of Budget money , and subsidized everything yet they are impotent to guard the Pakistan's borders ..

Come On. How hard is to understand my point and reality. U are doing non stop bragging against those generals but fail to even appreciate the fact that this country is run by politician, not generals. What any party has got to di with it? Its Govt who is running the show. Those generals have got U a serving Indian spy and expected that Govt wud run a diplomatic drive against that but yeah ofcourse here also You wud blame those fat generals for this and I can very well see which party you do belong to. U hate Pakistan, U hate Army, U hate Generals and U belong to no Party (thats what U said), so whats U doing here on PDF then? Better join Indian Defense Forum and U wud get time of ur life as they are spewing venom against Pakistan and Pakistan Army in exact same way as U r doing here.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

lol , Pakistan Army is not Defending anything .. they are defending their Housing Projects, kick backs , and kids who are mostly living outside Pakistan.. they protect their Cantonments where they live in huge Bungalows while the common people died in Drone strikes ..
Today US has start a new Chapter in Striking first in Baluchistan , and soon you will heard the news of Drone Strike in Punjab and even Karachi ..

and just wait, you will see how China React over this , cause now their so called CPEC is under direct threat from Drones .. lol you call them defenders lol they are even worse than security guards.

Problem is that Pakistan never got the right person for the right job. This brought up narrow minded approach and short term planing. The population growth rate far exceeded the number of people working in the offices and for the protection because the government always remained short on public founds. Employment was handed out without merit and in those places only where it could give direct benefit to the elites.

Pakistan was warned of the threat Talibans posse by the US before the invasion of Afghanistan. Equipment and man power increase was raised some equipment was provided. Still the Bush administration had hoped that Pakistan would give some high demands on which then President J. Bush was willing to provide.

This included increase in defence forces to cater for both western and eastern borders. There was also a proposal to build a border with Afghanistan. Today how ever both these things are being done but after great loses.

USA is trying to push Pakistan against the wall by making it go into the block or China and Russia because USA sees CPEC as expansion strategy of China and Russia in Asia.

What China does now to help Pakistan would increase the trust deficit with USA to a level where Pakistan would not like. Pakistan has started to move forward in these regards to minimise the net out come but it would require some concrete steps and unity in her citizens.

Are you really a pakistani you dont look the type?you are saying they are not defending anything than who is present on the borders it is not afghan army that is defending our country

Some times one has to say what he feels like freely even though the other might disagree and dislike his actions.

Defining moment for Pakistan. Will we stand up to defend our land? Today, even Balochistan isn't safe from drone strikes. A province where the Chinese have invested billions of dollars. This is unacceptable. If we aren't ready to defend our land from outside aggression might as well hand it over to the Americans. If they can conduct drone strikes they might as well run the entire country. No need for an army, air force or a government. At least they will do a better job. This is the truth no matter how bitter.

Some time one has to defend by retreating... At present Pakistan is in no position to open up to many fronts...They need to build up defences on the Eastern borders because these are getting heated up.These borders were considered friendly but this is no more the case.

 

[Pakistani E]

Why on earth do people think this drone strike was conducted without the full knowledge of top figures? Pakistan already ordered Afghan Taliban to leave Pakistani areas peacefully* but they refused. Now we are going to let the Americans take them one by one unless and until they come back to the negotiation table. Take off the emotionally charged glasses, the world isn't run by macho bravado which wins you nothing, expect more drone strikes on Afghan Taliban, or their return to the negotiating table which they had withdrawn from.

* They were told to either leave Pakistan and go their own way or remain but take steps to bring about their inclusion in the negotiations.

 

[Zibago]

I live in Karachi , and I support no Party .. not even PTI , what I am saying has nothing to do with Political Parties but those FAT A$$ generals who take a chunk of Budget money , and subsidized everything yet they are impotent to guard the Pakistan's borders ..

Start a war with US hmm lets see which country did that and survived

 

[shah1398]

Don't post rant. bring up with answer or don't quote me ..
Every one , and every country knows Pakistan is run by COAS .. and he is going country to country as FM ..

Am not whining and ranting like U but trying to be logical. If Pakistan had been running by COAS then wud he have spared those corrupt politicians and wudnt be DG ISPR sitting in Foreign Office rather than GHQ?

when your Army needs to buy some weapons they squeeze the balls of Politicians and make it happen , but when it comes to National Security , they bring the Politicians forward ..

They needed approval for Zarb-e-Azb and PM authorized it. So shud they have proceeded on own or was it a bad decision to go for the ops? There were daily drone strikes previously but there was no reaction from likes of U back then. Is there any difference between FATA and Balochistan? Why double standards for both?

 

[Zibago]

Why on earth do people think this drone strike was conducted without the full knowledge of top figures? Pakistan already ordered Afghan Taliban to leave Pakistani areas peacefully* but they refused. Now we are going to let the Americans take them one by one unless and until they come back to the negotiation table. Take off the emotionally charged glasses, the world isn't run by macho bravado which wins you nothing, expect more drone strikes on Afghan Taliban, or their return to the negotiating table which they had withdrawn from.

* They were told to either leave Pakistan and go their own way or remain but take steps to bring about their inclusion in the negotiations.

People here want us to shoot US drones buddy we cant do that as long as we are heavily dependent on them
And i clearly remember pmln supporters calling Imran Khan Taliban apologist when he criticized US drone strikes why all of a sudden those same leagis are criticizing drone attacks?

 

[Syed Asif Bukhari]

Once,I started thread here about targeting Mullah Fazalullah but nearly every one here opposed my idea .They were of view that our diplomatic relations with Afghanistan will suffer a lot and whole world will accuse us . but now americans have conducted drone strike in Balochistan .no one has accused americans .infact , whole world is making fun of us. sooner or later, they will not even hesitate to target Quetta .if the situation continues , they will attack even attack deeper in Pakistan . for the first time,current military leadership has let down nation. I am very much disappointed .

 

[HttpError]

admit it or not , this incident has severely damaged the morale of whole nation . this is all I can say now.

Don't worry on next 23rd March they will do a fly pass with 8 new F16 Block 52, the pride of the nation will be restored again . I highly doubt it if we can even respond to any aggression from India let alone USA.

 

[shah1398]

the Govt is run from GHQ either you like it or not .. Army is been interfering in Govt matters from the very beginning .. so don't be so naïve here ..

Bachay tera kal test b hai. Parhai kr warna iss dafa b F hi ayay ga.

Govt was told the other day after the Zarb-e-Azb was launched , your memory is quite weak I must say ..

Seems U so called student of Commerce doesnt even have iota of idea of economics. Ops Zarb-e-Azb needed funds and those funds were to be supplied by Govt of Pakistan, not Uncle Sam.