Pakistan army says US scapegoating

[Abdul Quddoos]

You are leaned, to prove Amerika's point of view, to an extent that you have lost your credibility and effectiveness. Believe me your post are getting crappy day by day. Same old rhetoric every time. Take a brake son.

self-deleted, wrongly posted.

 

[Solomon2]

Please do write to your rep and ask him to do what he can.

Not yet. I want to see whether there's any constructive fallout from this general's interview. If not....

 

[TaimiKhan]

For the past 6 years the U.N. Security Council has classified reports of Pakistan's compliance (and non-compliance) with binding U.N. Security Council Resolution 1373. The U.S., along with the other permanent members of the SC, have kept the spirit of this by remaining mostly silent on the details and refraining from the harshest and most specific allegations.

I think this general is talking way too much. If I hear much more of this from Pakistanis - for imo you need to be engaged in constructive self-criticism rather than empty accusations aimed at foreigners - I'll write my representative and Senator asking them to pull the "silent" clause keeping the UNSC mouth shut. Once they do that it'll be everyone against Pakistan - for the Chinese are getting pissed to, especially at the Pakistani line about China's unquestioning support.

you mean the classified lies based testimony and evidence provided to UNSC to wage a war & occupy a sovereign country. And in due process killing and directly becoming the factor which lead to hundreds of thousands killed.

You seriously need to go somewhere else rather then to your representative or whatever.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

For the past 6 years the U.N. Security Council has classified reports of Pakistan's compliance (and non-compliance) with binding U.N. Security Council Resolution 1373. The U.S., along with the other permanent members of the SC, have kept the spirit of this by remaining mostly silent on the details and refraining from the harshest and most specific allegations.

I think this general is talking way too much. If I hear much more of this from Pakistanis - for imo you need to be engaged in constructive self-criticism rather than empty accusations aimed at foreigners - I'll write my representative and Senator asking them to pull the "silent" clause keeping the UNSC mouth shut. Once they do that it'll be everyone against Pakistan - for the Chinese are getting pissed to, especially at the Pakistani line about China's unquestioning support.

how many treaties and res. is the U.S. holding in abeyance?

silly to bring up UN here when a lot of world powers have openly held UN in contempt

 

[Abdul Quddoos]

Better policies would avoid Pakistan being painted with a big bull's eye on its back as is happening slowly but surely. Mere complaining about any perceived unfairness would likely not be very productive.

Mr.CHENG please come up with Afghan-Soviet war history.....
Everybody knows WHAT TALIBAN WERE MEANT FOR..?
Excuse me MR.TERROR SUPPORTER....
AND WE'RE AFFRRRAID of america and nato...LOL..
isn't america the biggest looser in the world...?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Not yet. I want to see whether there's any constructive fallout from this general's interview. If not....

there wont be any fallout on our side.......to be honest, little fallout from American side either. Because they know we are right but don't want to accept it (hence the scape-goating)

 

[TaimiKhan]

And yea Solomon, if you have some dignity and intellectual, also do ask the representative that ask Obama or whoever is incharge of your country that how come you send hardly 100K troops in the country from where 9/11 supposedly / allegedly originated while you send 400k+ troops to a country which had nothing to do with 9/11 or was doing terror relating activities against the US.

You guys are the hypocrites of the highest level.

You guys proudly send 400K troops to capture oil and sacrifice 4000+ troops, but you guys send just 100k troops to take revenge for the 2000+ americans killed in a terrorist attack.

pathetic.

Go, first ask these questions and see how much serious is your country in Afghanistan while comparing it to the seriousness shown in the oil capturing war.

Our generals speak the reality, while yours are two faced jokers, who give different statements at different locations.

 

[Solomon2]

you mean the classified lies based testimony and evidence provided to UNSC to wage a war & occupy a sovereign country.

I've pointed out many times that under UNSCR 1373 (Chapter VII, hence binding in international law) Pakistan can't exercise a sovereign claim objecting to U.S. military operations in areas within its borders that are dominated by terrorists.

You seriously need to go somewhere else rather then to your representative or whatever.

Really?

 

[IPL5]

US enjoys the mandate of UN

 

[Aslan]

I've pointed out many times that under UNSCR 1373 (Chapter VII, hence binding in international law) Pakistan can't exercise a sovereign claim objecting to U.S. military operations in areas within its borders that are dominated by terrorists.

Really?

So that is what you guys were telling the combodians when u were bombing them during vietnam war. Who decides that who is the terrorist. You guys, do me a favor and read the below comments. Change and fix ur own damn country rather then screwing up and destroying the whole damn world.

 

[Solomon2]

And yea Solomon, if you have some dignity and intellectual, also do ask -

No, sorry.

You guys are the hypocrites of the highest level.

Lots of people like to portray us that way, but certainly the arguments you bring to the table ("100K vs 400K troops") are particularly weak as you are confusing missions with tactics. After all, one used a bigger knife to slice a watermelon than one uses to skin a grape.

Our generals speak the reality -

How can you judge what your generals speak of? They are not accountable to the civilian leadership; rather, the reverse is true. Otherwise Hussein Haqqani could never be accused of treason for having plotted to help assert civilian rule in the face of a suspected coup and then removed from office as ambassador.

What reporter in Pakistan will dare contradict the general after what happened to Syed Saleem Shahzad and his fellows? Doesn't that mean a better bet to find out the truth may be in the foreign press or from iconoclasts writing on internet sites like this one?

So that is what you guys were telling the combodians when u were bombing them during vietnam war.

UNSCR 1373 didn't exist then.

Oh yeah!

 

[Aslan]

No, sorry.

Lots of people like to portray us that way, but certainly the arguments you bring to the table ("100K vs 400K troops") are particularly weak as you are confusing missions with tactics. After all, one used a bigger knife to slice a watermelon than one uses to skin a grape.

How can you judge what your generals speak of? They are not accountable to the civilian leadership; rather, the reverse is true. Otherwise Hussein Haqqani could never be accused of treason for having plotted to help assert civilian rule in the face of a suspected coup and then removed from office as ambassador.

What reporter in Pakistan will dare contradict the general after what happened to Syed Saleem Shahzad and his fellows? Doesn't that mean a better bet to find out the truth may be in the foreign press or from iconoclasts writing on internet sites like this one?

UNSCR 1373 didn't exist then.


Oh yeah!

1373 didnt exist then or didnt suit u guys. U guys have to be credited with being a great A dheet and baigharat quam, aka stubborn amd shameless. Go to UN gt something passed, and flash it to the whole world when u feel like it. And when u dont get ur way UN who the hell is UN is ur line.

 

[TaimiKhan]

No, sorry.

Lots of people like to portray us that way, but certainly the arguments you bring to the table ("100K vs 400K troops") are particularly weak as you are confusing missions with tactics. After all, one used a bigger knife to slice a watermelon than one uses to skin a grape.

How can you judge what your generals speak of? They are not accountable to the civilian leadership; rather, the reverse is true. Otherwise Hussein Haqqani could never be accused of treason for having plotted to help assert civilian rule in the face of a suspected coup and then removed from office as ambassador.

What reporter in Pakistan will dare contradict the general after what happened to Syed Saleem Shahzad and his fellows? Doesn't that mean a better bet to find out the truth may be in the foreign press or from iconoclasts writing on internet sites like this one?

UNSCR 1373 didn't exist then.


Oh yeah!

You seriously are delusional.

You always view the picture from your side only.

Anyway keep up the delusional thinking, it doesn't matter to us what the Americans think when they themselves have killed millions right from Korean war to this day.

Set your own house in order first and then lecture us.

 

[VCheng]

........... it doesn't matter to us what the Americans think ...........

Really? Lecturing or not, it would be foolish to ignore which way the winds are blowing in Washington regarding Pakistan.

It matters a LOT to Pakistan, trust me on that. Unless of course, you think that such bravado can be backed up with something more tangible than mere words.

 

[Solomon2]

You seriously are delusional.

Can you be more specific? As I've been trying to teach here, there is a difference between what things are and what they are called. To avoid delusion one must distinguish between the two, which means considering evidence, proofs, and contexts.

Set your own house in order first and then lecture us.

That's the rub, isn't it? That compared to Pakistan many other countries, like the U.S. and Israel, do indeed have their house in better order.