Pakistan army obtain 3 LAZAR2 Vehicles
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Counter insurgency my friend. By the way welcome to the forum our Serbian friend.
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for tyotas we are getting chinese mrap
and our own muhafiz
Bangladesh already uses chinese MRAP domestically, also for UN mission
http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/161300-chinese-mrap-bangladesh.html
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|These Lazar's would be under use for SSG's to operate their special mission's safely...
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This vehicle has a standard steel hull with STANAG level III+ protection in the basic configuration, although additional laminate armor developed by Jugoimport provides an upgrade to NATO STANAG 4569 agreement level V+ armor protection. In addition to the two armor configurations mentioned, both can be upgraded with ERA packets for protection against close range urban attacks with RPG weapons, as well as cages and other means of protecting against heavy fire. The armor itself can be considered NERA and is meant only to protect against infantry portable weapons. The ballistic glass is extremely strong, rated at level III in the front and level II+ at the sides. In addition, the specially formatted hull and internal seating arrangement affords maximum protection against IED devices, anti-tank mines and other ground-level explosive devices.
The V-shaped hull and special drive train construction affords excellent mobility in mud pit situations, over deep trenches, icy and slippery surfaces as well as inclines smaller than 50 degrees. Each wheel and tire has centrally controlled pressure and is created in such a way as to be useful even if the tires are completely destroyed (run flat inserts); the quick lock mechanism allows for fast replacement. The 440 HP engine provides good acceleration but low speed over treacherous terrain, a standardized mechanical transmission allows for direct control. Steering and suspension both are primarily hydraulic and both have mechanical backups. Brakes are dual circuited pneumatics and have an on-off ABS switch in the cab. The range is 600 km and the top speed is 90 km/h. Wheel configuration is independent and allows fording to 1.5 meters deep and trench hopping at 2m of depth.
The thing which stands out about the Lazar is the open side system which allows troops inside to use their own personal weapons (40mm grenade launchers, assault rifles etc.) to engage the enemy or help locate threats in a 360 degree area. Of course, in addition to this open concept system there are a variety of turrets, cupolas and other weapons systems depending on budget and application of vehicle.
Good vehicles perhaps we have attained 3 to evaluate the vehicles and use these and then go for larger order
or perhaps go into joint manufacturing of this vehicles
They do look fiarly modernized from inside
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Continuing IED Attacks Draw Attention to Pakistan's MRAP Shortage
Jul. 1, 2013 - 06:00AM | By USMAN ANSARI
ISLAMABAD — An IED attack on a paramilitary convoy in Peshawar on Sunday has once again drawn attention to Pakistan’s lack of suitable vehicles to combat what will likely remain terrorists’ favored mode of attack.
The Associated Press of Pakistan quoted an official saying the IED was composed of mortar rounds and improvised explosives weighing some 40 kilograms hidden in a car parked by the roadside and detonated once the convoy drew close.
However, nearby women and children appeared to make up the majority of the 14 dead and approximately 20 injured.
Nevertheless, it has highlighted the continuing threat from such devices, and the lack of suitable MRAP vehicles in sufficient number for the security services.
The threat was further underlined today by the death of four soldiers in and IED attack near Miranshah in Northern Waziristan in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas bordering Afghanistan.
With the drawdown of ISAF forces in neighboring Afghanistan, Pakistan has been mentioned in media reports as being in line to receive some surplus US equipment.
The equipment does not include MRAP vehicles, many of which are reported to be scrapped in Afghanistan.
When contacted for clarification on what surplus equipment Pakistan may receive, the US Embassy here in Islamabad could not provide details.
A spokesperson for the Embassy said, “Military gear that has been determined to be excess defense articles will not be brought back with US forces from Afghanistan as they redeploy elsewhere. The United States intends to offer this equipment to Afghanistan and other partners, but no final determinations have been made yet.”
The spokesperson further stated, “It is premature to speculate on what may be provided and to whom.”
Neither Pakistan’s Ministry of Defence, nor the military’s Inter Service Public Relations (ISPR) media branch replied to requests for clarification, or indeed confirmation that surplus MRAP vehicles were offered to Pakistan, but declined.
Pakistan’s indigenous MRAP vehicle, the Burraq, manufactured by the state-owned Heavy Industries Taxila AFV builder, also appears nowhere in sight despite Defense News being told in March it was only a matter of months from finally being unveiled.
Former Australian defense attaché to Islamabad, Brian Cloughley, said there could be a good reason for such an offer being declined.
“Of course it would be attractive to acquire such vehicles” he said, “but the associated problems are probably too great to make this practicable.”
While highlighting that MRAP vehicles are becoming increasingly important in global conflicts, Cloughley says, “costs and practicalities have to be considered.
“First of all, the vehicles are enormously expensive. Pakistan simply couldn’t afford a state-of-the-art MRAP vehicle. But even if they were donated by the US on grounds that they were surplus stock [and even then, Congress might not give approval], the operating and maintenance costs would be enormous,” he said.
With Pakistan beset with crippling economic woes, keeping finances tight is a major concern for the military, but operational costs, especially against the Taliban, are already prohibitively expensive.
“It is all too often forgotten that Pakistan is finding it extremely difficult to meet the day-to-day costs of military operations in the Tribal Areas, where so many thousands of its soldiers have died in the conflict that erupted after Afghanistan went critical,” says Cloughley.
“The expense of running ordinary resupply vehicles, alone, is extremely high. Factor in a brand-new type of vehicle, with requirement for training, and staggering running and maintenance costs, and it’s a very big problem indeed,” he adds.
If the door on surplus US counter-IED equipment has closed, the two day visit of UK Prime Minister David Cameron over the weekend may offer something of an alternative.
A joint statement issued during the visit said, “The UK will work in partnership with Pakistan providing expertise in support of Pakistan’s developing strategy on counter terrorism. The UK will provide more equipment to tackle the scourge of improvised explosive devices and support Pakistan in improving the security of its infrastructure, including sharing the UK’s expertise in safeguarding sporting events.”
However, the details of this offer are not known, and despite requests no clarification was forthcoming from the UK’s High Commission here in Islamabad, with a spokesperson referring Defense News back to the joint statement.
It appears to be part of or a follow-on from similar efforts announced in April 2011 as part of the Anglo-Pakistani Strategic Dialogue.
At the time, a spokesman at the High Commission said Britain welcomed “Pakistan’s efforts to develop a national counter-IED strategy aimed at combating this phenomenon using a holistic, interagency approach.”
Britain was to help establish “a ‘center of excellence’ that will train and equip front-line law enforcement and security forces to deal with IED threats whenever and wherever they occur.”
British help would also extend to dealing with the aftermath of IED attacks, specifically “training experts to make sure that forensic evidence can be recovered from IEDs,” in order to strengthen the legal cases against terrorist suspects and those suspected of manufacturing and using IEDs.
This latter aspect was not thought to be a specific strong point of Pakistan’s security and law enforcement bodies at the time.
Jul. 1, 2013 - 06:00AM | By USMAN ANSARI
ISLAMABAD — An IED attack on a paramilitary convoy in Peshawar on Sunday has once again drawn attention to Pakistan’s lack of suitable vehicles to combat what will likely remain terrorists’ favored mode of attack.
The Associated Press of Pakistan quoted an official saying the IED was composed of mortar rounds and improvised explosives weighing some 40 kilograms hidden in a car parked by the roadside and detonated once the convoy drew close.
However, nearby women and children appeared to make up the majority of the 14 dead and approximately 20 injured.
Nevertheless, it has highlighted the continuing threat from such devices, and the lack of suitable MRAP vehicles in sufficient number for the security services.
The threat was further underlined today by the death of four soldiers in and IED attack near Miranshah in Northern Waziristan in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas bordering Afghanistan.
With the drawdown of ISAF forces in neighboring Afghanistan, Pakistan has been mentioned in media reports as being in line to receive some surplus US equipment.
The equipment does not include MRAP vehicles, many of which are reported to be scrapped in Afghanistan.
When contacted for clarification on what surplus equipment Pakistan may receive, the US Embassy here in Islamabad could not provide details.
A spokesperson for the Embassy said, “Military gear that has been determined to be excess defense articles will not be brought back with US forces from Afghanistan as they redeploy elsewhere. The United States intends to offer this equipment to Afghanistan and other partners, but no final determinations have been made yet.”
The spokesperson further stated, “It is premature to speculate on what may be provided and to whom.”
Neither Pakistan’s Ministry of Defence, nor the military’s Inter Service Public Relations (ISPR) media branch replied to requests for clarification, or indeed confirmation that surplus MRAP vehicles were offered to Pakistan, but declined.
Pakistan’s indigenous MRAP vehicle, the Burraq, manufactured by the state-owned Heavy Industries Taxila AFV builder, also appears nowhere in sight despite Defense News being told in March it was only a matter of months from finally being unveiled.
Former Australian defense attaché to Islamabad, Brian Cloughley, said there could be a good reason for such an offer being declined.
“Of course it would be attractive to acquire such vehicles” he said, “but the associated problems are probably too great to make this practicable.”
While highlighting that MRAP vehicles are becoming increasingly important in global conflicts, Cloughley says, “costs and practicalities have to be considered.
“First of all, the vehicles are enormously expensive. Pakistan simply couldn’t afford a state-of-the-art MRAP vehicle. But even if they were donated by the US on grounds that they were surplus stock [and even then, Congress might not give approval], the operating and maintenance costs would be enormous,” he said.
With Pakistan beset with crippling economic woes, keeping finances tight is a major concern for the military, but operational costs, especially against the Taliban, are already prohibitively expensive.
“It is all too often forgotten that Pakistan is finding it extremely difficult to meet the day-to-day costs of military operations in the Tribal Areas, where so many thousands of its soldiers have died in the conflict that erupted after Afghanistan went critical,” says Cloughley.
“The expense of running ordinary resupply vehicles, alone, is extremely high. Factor in a brand-new type of vehicle, with requirement for training, and staggering running and maintenance costs, and it’s a very big problem indeed,” he adds.
If the door on surplus US counter-IED equipment has closed, the two day visit of UK Prime Minister David Cameron over the weekend may offer something of an alternative.
A joint statement issued during the visit said, “The UK will work in partnership with Pakistan providing expertise in support of Pakistan’s developing strategy on counter terrorism. The UK will provide more equipment to tackle the scourge of improvised explosive devices and support Pakistan in improving the security of its infrastructure, including sharing the UK’s expertise in safeguarding sporting events.”
However, the details of this offer are not known, and despite requests no clarification was forthcoming from the UK’s High Commission here in Islamabad, with a spokesperson referring Defense News back to the joint statement.
It appears to be part of or a follow-on from similar efforts announced in April 2011 as part of the Anglo-Pakistani Strategic Dialogue.
At the time, a spokesman at the High Commission said Britain welcomed “Pakistan’s efforts to develop a national counter-IED strategy aimed at combating this phenomenon using a holistic, interagency approach.”
Britain was to help establish “a ‘center of excellence’ that will train and equip front-line law enforcement and security forces to deal with IED threats whenever and wherever they occur.”
British help would also extend to dealing with the aftermath of IED attacks, specifically “training experts to make sure that forensic evidence can be recovered from IEDs,” in order to strengthen the legal cases against terrorist suspects and those suspected of manufacturing and using IEDs.
This latter aspect was not thought to be a specific strong point of Pakistan’s security and law enforcement bodies at the time.
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Aren't there thousands of MRAPs across the border that could be made available in a few short months?
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for some reason either they dont want to give them to us or we dont want them
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What...Chinese ko phuddu bana diya?
MRAP program with Chinese dropped? Any more details on that?
What about the other 3 or so MRAP's that were using on trial?
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