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Its not first time that I idid see it but in many pictures and Videos Pakistani Tanks are always equipped with wheels on their backside ?
Are this M-113 still equiped with this Anti Tank weapon or are they still in service ?
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Inteligent Soldiers or a order from their Commander ? We dont know, but what we can see is that, this Pakistani Soldiers did try to have a protected vehicle, their solution was simple and cheap ! Second all vehicles in this pictures have this improvised-protection plus a improvised camouflage !
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Experts: Missile Test Firing Shows Development Complete
Nov. 6, 2013 - 06:07PM |
By USMAN ANSARI
Pakistan's army chief Gen. Ashfaq Kayani was onhand to witness the test of Pakistan's Hatf-IX/Vengeance-IX missile, otherwise known as 'Nasr,' on Oct. 5. (Aamir Qureshi / Getty Images)
ISLAMABAD — The Oct. 5 test of Pakistan’s Hatf-IX/Vengeance-IX missile, otherwise known as ‘Nasr,’ shows its development has been completed and the command-and-control systems are in place, allowing it to be deployed, say analysts.
A press release by the military’s Inter Service Public Relations (ISPR) media branch stated the successful test was “conducted with successive launches of 4 x missiles (salvo) from a state of the art multi tube launcher.”
Nasr is a mobile, quick-reaction, four-round weapon system capable of delivering its nuclear-armed, short-range ballistic missiles up to 60 kilometers.
The test was witnessed by the Chief of the Army Staff, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kiyani; the director general of the Strategic Plans Division (which handles all aspects of the non-conventional program) Lt. Gen Khalid Ahmad Kidwai; and the chairman of the National Engineering and Scientific Commission (which designed the Nasr missile system), Muhammad Irfan Burney.
Mansoor Ahmed from Quaid-e-Azam University’s Department of Defence and Strategic Studies, who specializes in Pakistan’s national deterrent and delivery program, says the test signified the commitment to enhancing the Nasr’s effectiveness, but that two aspects stand out.
“It was the second test of a salvo fired from a four-round launcher, and its in-flight maneuver capability is being improved to defeat potential Indian missile defenses against artillery rockets and short-range ballistic missiles, such as the Israeli Iron Dome system,” he said.
Ahmed said this means Nasr has “passed the initial R&D phase and has been accepted and possibly been inducted into service by the Pakistan Army’s Strategic Forces.”
The ISPR statement’s mention of full-spectrum deterrence at tactical and strategic level, Ahmed believes, means the Nasr missile system has been “fully integrated into the centralized command-and-control structure through round the clock situational awareness in a digitized network centric environment to decision makers at National Command Center.”
Nasr is obviously India-specific, he said, and the salvo launch capability is a key ability in stopping Indian armored thrusts into Pakistani territory.
“The salvo launch demonstrates that Pakistan is steadily improving its counterforce capabilities against Indian armored thrusts as part of the Indian ‘Cold Start’ doctrine with the option of using low-yield, boosted fission, plutonium warheads in the possible range of 0.5 to 5 kilotons in case of a breakdown of conventional defenses,” he said.
It also “implies Pakistan has fully integrated the concept,and procedures to employ tactical nuclear weapons when, and if, required against the enemy, as part of its flexible force posture in the face of emerging and evolving threats,” says Ahmed.
Pakistan’s switch to the production of plutonium and stockpiling fissile material has been very topical, and Ahmed says the test show “Pakistan appears to have increased confidence in continuing to build sophisticated, miniaturized warheads for the Nasr missiles.
“Such tests are also designed re-enforce the message that Pakistan’s capabilities to produce miniaturized warheads for battlefield nuclear weapons have progressively matured,” Ahmed added.
However, Ahmed points out that “tactical nuclear weapons used to supplement conventional defenses would be only employed in case of deterrence failure.”
Given a paucity of funds as a result of Pakistan’s economic downturn, much of the military’s modernization plans have been postponed or even abandoned.
If the development of Nasr is complete, and if there are no other major non-conventional related programs in need of funds, it could mean finances could be freed up for conventional programs.
Analyst Haris Khan of the Pakistan Military Consortium think tank said Nasr’s development has not yet finished. However, there nevertheless could be some movement in bringing the conventional modernization programs back on track.
He highlights the Army’s tank fleet, which has seen mixed fortunes. The T-80UD upgrade appears to have been postponed, but further development of the Al-Khalid MBT has continued and development of the Al-Khalid II is nearing completion.
“The Al-Khalid II is to be equipped with a Chinese 1,200 HP diesel engine with a German or South Korean gear box, and the Army has also evaluated the Ukrainian Kombat tandem-warhead gun fired anti-tank guided missile,” he said.
Generally however, the government has recently released a small amount of “much needed procurement funds for all three services” that should keep their modernization/procurement programs alive until the economy can improve further allowing for deals to be finalized.
“The Army is exploring acquiring a new wheeled APC [the Serbian Lazar 2], a general utility helicopter, and an attack helicopter from Turkey or the USA. The Navy is hoping to finalize a deal to manufacture four more improved F-22P frigates plus, if enough funds are available, new subs from China and/or Germany.
“The Air Force, on the other hand, hopes to acquire more F-16s, seal a deal for J-10 aircraft from China, and more transport aircraft, plus a new SAM system also from China”, he said.
Nov. 6, 2013 - 06:07PM |
By USMAN ANSARI
Pakistan's army chief Gen. Ashfaq Kayani was onhand to witness the test of Pakistan's Hatf-IX/Vengeance-IX missile, otherwise known as 'Nasr,' on Oct. 5. (Aamir Qureshi / Getty Images)
ISLAMABAD — The Oct. 5 test of Pakistan’s Hatf-IX/Vengeance-IX missile, otherwise known as ‘Nasr,’ shows its development has been completed and the command-and-control systems are in place, allowing it to be deployed, say analysts.
A press release by the military’s Inter Service Public Relations (ISPR) media branch stated the successful test was “conducted with successive launches of 4 x missiles (salvo) from a state of the art multi tube launcher.”
Nasr is a mobile, quick-reaction, four-round weapon system capable of delivering its nuclear-armed, short-range ballistic missiles up to 60 kilometers.
The test was witnessed by the Chief of the Army Staff, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kiyani; the director general of the Strategic Plans Division (which handles all aspects of the non-conventional program) Lt. Gen Khalid Ahmad Kidwai; and the chairman of the National Engineering and Scientific Commission (which designed the Nasr missile system), Muhammad Irfan Burney.
Mansoor Ahmed from Quaid-e-Azam University’s Department of Defence and Strategic Studies, who specializes in Pakistan’s national deterrent and delivery program, says the test signified the commitment to enhancing the Nasr’s effectiveness, but that two aspects stand out.
“It was the second test of a salvo fired from a four-round launcher, and its in-flight maneuver capability is being improved to defeat potential Indian missile defenses against artillery rockets and short-range ballistic missiles, such as the Israeli Iron Dome system,” he said.
Ahmed said this means Nasr has “passed the initial R&D phase and has been accepted and possibly been inducted into service by the Pakistan Army’s Strategic Forces.”
The ISPR statement’s mention of full-spectrum deterrence at tactical and strategic level, Ahmed believes, means the Nasr missile system has been “fully integrated into the centralized command-and-control structure through round the clock situational awareness in a digitized network centric environment to decision makers at National Command Center.”
Nasr is obviously India-specific, he said, and the salvo launch capability is a key ability in stopping Indian armored thrusts into Pakistani territory.
“The salvo launch demonstrates that Pakistan is steadily improving its counterforce capabilities against Indian armored thrusts as part of the Indian ‘Cold Start’ doctrine with the option of using low-yield, boosted fission, plutonium warheads in the possible range of 0.5 to 5 kilotons in case of a breakdown of conventional defenses,” he said.
It also “implies Pakistan has fully integrated the concept,and procedures to employ tactical nuclear weapons when, and if, required against the enemy, as part of its flexible force posture in the face of emerging and evolving threats,” says Ahmed.
Pakistan’s switch to the production of plutonium and stockpiling fissile material has been very topical, and Ahmed says the test show “Pakistan appears to have increased confidence in continuing to build sophisticated, miniaturized warheads for the Nasr missiles.
“Such tests are also designed re-enforce the message that Pakistan’s capabilities to produce miniaturized warheads for battlefield nuclear weapons have progressively matured,” Ahmed added.
However, Ahmed points out that “tactical nuclear weapons used to supplement conventional defenses would be only employed in case of deterrence failure.”
Given a paucity of funds as a result of Pakistan’s economic downturn, much of the military’s modernization plans have been postponed or even abandoned.
If the development of Nasr is complete, and if there are no other major non-conventional related programs in need of funds, it could mean finances could be freed up for conventional programs.
Analyst Haris Khan of the Pakistan Military Consortium think tank said Nasr’s development has not yet finished. However, there nevertheless could be some movement in bringing the conventional modernization programs back on track.
He highlights the Army’s tank fleet, which has seen mixed fortunes. The T-80UD upgrade appears to have been postponed, but further development of the Al-Khalid MBT has continued and development of the Al-Khalid II is nearing completion.
“The Al-Khalid II is to be equipped with a Chinese 1,200 HP diesel engine with a German or South Korean gear box, and the Army has also evaluated the Ukrainian Kombat tandem-warhead gun fired anti-tank guided missile,” he said.
Generally however, the government has recently released a small amount of “much needed procurement funds for all three services” that should keep their modernization/procurement programs alive until the economy can improve further allowing for deals to be finalized.
“The Army is exploring acquiring a new wheeled APC [the Serbian Lazar 2], a general utility helicopter, and an attack helicopter from Turkey or the USA. The Navy is hoping to finalize a deal to manufacture four more improved F-22P frigates plus, if enough funds are available, new subs from China and/or Germany.
“The Air Force, on the other hand, hopes to acquire more F-16s, seal a deal for J-10 aircraft from China, and more transport aircraft, plus a new SAM system also from China”, he said.
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Fire and forget
Ikram Sehgal
Thursday, November 07, 2013
The term ‘fire and forget’ denotes a missile which after launching and acquiring a target does not require further guidance; it can destroy the target without the launcher being in the line-of-sight. Precision Guided Munitions (PGMs) hit a specified target minimising ‘collateral damage’.
The subject of much controversy within Pakistan, drones launch PGMs against militants successfully but do cause civilian casualties; the differing numbers have evoked even more controversy.
On November 4, a magnificent live-fire exercise was staged at the Tameywali Firing Ranges near Bahawalpur. Conducted by the army’s 2 Corps, Pakistan Army’s ‘Mailed Fist’ (1 Armoured Division) carried out the ground manoeuvre complemented by the massed guns of a supporting Artillery Division and Cobra gunships of an Army Aviation combat group. Once the advancing ‘enemy’ was contained and ‘fixed’ in place by an Armour Squadron, the PAF was called into action.
In a 12-minute outstanding and display of precision strafing, rocketing and bombing with great accuracy at close quarters, and despite their targets being barely discernible in the smoke, dust and afternoon haze, a range of PAF combat aircraft delivered a lethal combination of munitions, including a PGM launched from an F-16 beyond visual range. Combat pilots flying aircraft at supersonic speeds barely have split seconds to acquire targets and release their munition while simultaneously taking evasive measures against ground fire and anti-aircraft missiles (AAMs).
Having been on the receiving end of intense Indian aerial strafing, rocketing and bombing in December 1971 in the Chor Desert, the accuracy of shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles was really amazing. On December 12, 1971 44 Punjab (now 4 Sindh) commanded by Lt-Col (later Brig) Mohammad Taj SJ and Bar led 60 Bde (33 Div) brought post-haste by road, rail and road to Mirpurkhas from concentration area near Rahimyar Khan to relieve the Indian pressure in 55 Bde (18 Div) at Chor and Umerkot without air cove.
After the crack of dawn, I lost count of the dozens of Indian aircraft hunting in pairs on the road to Umerkot and then onto Chor. Dropping napalm from time to time, they got only a few vehicles from our entire Bde, in stark contrast to Indian turkey shoot on 18 Div’s tank columns without air cover in the Cholistan desert. The intensity diminished after 2 pm when my unit shot down the second of two Indian aircraft by concentrated machine gun fire.
With AAMs nowadays the results would have been much different. On the other hand the lethality of the PGMs at Tameywali gives one more reason to be grateful to God that they were not in use against us in 1971.
Hovering at ‘stand-off’ position for more than 15 minutes is difficult. Four Cobra gunships engaged their targets with precision and accuracy, speaking volumes for their professionalism and skills. It takes a special breed of men to magnificently brave the elements as our helicopter pilots have done in Swat and Fata during counter-insurgency operations.
Our artillery has always been beyond compare in being precise and committed. The impact of the steady drumbeat of massed artillery fire of the Artillery Division was clearly discernible, accuracy to go with the lethality of the barrage. One would be lucky to survive such concentrated shelling.
The high point was the tank assault by an armoured regiment. What a difference gun stabilisation and smooth bore barrels make, with striking improvement in the skills to go with it. Even when stationary, the Sherman tanks supporting us in Chor destroyed enemy machine gun and Recoilless Rifle bunkers only after several attempts.
Firing with lethal accuracy on the move is a huge game-changer, emulating the Mongols riding their horses at full gallop targeting their arrows with accuracy. One of our problems has been fire control, the unwritten practice being to ‘fire at will’ covering gaps by crossfire, a thoroughly bankrupt practice. The army now correctly emphasises shoot to kill – ie fire for effect.
One major surprise was the presence of Brig Thukral, the Indian defence attache, the first time, at least in my memory, that there was Indian representation at any major army event. The confidence in making this strong overture of conciliation to India is praiseworthy; will they reciprocate? Brig Thukral witnessed firsthand our firepower as well as the professionalism and élan that go with it.
The overriding lesson here: a smaller motivated force with such lethal potential can always contain and even destroy much larger forces. A word of praise for our hosts, Lt Gen Abid Pervaiz Comd 2 Corps and his men, who coordinated and executed the entire exercise with superb timing and without incident – truly magnificent!
In April 2010, the culmination of PAF’s Exercise High Mark was a live-fire demonstration at PAF’s Thal Firing Range. The devastating fire drill emphasised how lucky one was to survive the Indian aerial strafing, rocketing and bombing in December 1971 in the Thar Desert. However it was really frustrating that sitting in the row in front of me the three stars likely to be Kayani’s replacement as COAS had chests awash with medals but had never been near combat, seeing even this spectacular demonstration from a safe distance.
With Kayani soon after getting himself re-appointed as COAS for three years (there being no such thing as a three-year extension), mercifully that became a moot point. In Tameywali the first three COAS contenders were present. Thankfully all had combat experience. Kayani has ensured that the army has a richness in the quality of senior officers, professional soldiers of great integrity and character.
Taking over from Gen Musharraf, Kayani was aware that the army’s professionalism had been severely degraded by the military’s involvement in civilian governance. To his credit Kayani went at it systematically, creating task forces, holding discussion and studies, war games, exercises with troops, analysis thereof etc.
And all this while the army has been engaged in extensive counter-insurgency operations. The live-fire culmination of this process of reforming the army (the ‘Azm-e-Nau’ series) is a fitting tribute to Kayani’s retirement – that is, if the government does not persuade him to become chairman JCSC with the expanded powers of promotions/postings of one star and above.
Former president Zardari never risked visiting an armed forces unit as Supreme Commander, let alone one under open skies with live ammunition. The body language of mutual comfort and confidence was on full display when Kayani personally drove Mian Nawaz Sharif to the live fire exercise podium in an open jeep. Was there anything to indicate that the COAS was about to retire barely three weeks later? If the indispensable Kayani declines to become the chairman of the JCSC, he will likely continue in a civilian capacity as de-facto defence minister.
The Tameywali integrated fire drill re-emphasised that the armed forces must have coordinated higher defence mechanism, which is only possible by correcting the anomalies in the chain of uniformed command. Having survived the Musharraf experience, the PM will not have to be gun shy about khaki appointments anymore but ‘appoint and relax’, paraphrasing (with apologies) the ‘fire and forget’ formula of PGM munitions.
The writer is a defence and political analyst. Email: ikram.sehgal@wpplsms.com
Fire and forget
Ikram Sehgal
Thursday, November 07, 2013
The subject of much controversy within Pakistan, drones launch PGMs against militants successfully but do cause civilian casualties; the differing numbers have evoked even more controversy.
On November 4, a magnificent live-fire exercise was staged at the Tameywali Firing Ranges near Bahawalpur. Conducted by the army’s 2 Corps, Pakistan Army’s ‘Mailed Fist’ (1 Armoured Division) carried out the ground manoeuvre complemented by the massed guns of a supporting Artillery Division and Cobra gunships of an Army Aviation combat group. Once the advancing ‘enemy’ was contained and ‘fixed’ in place by an Armour Squadron, the PAF was called into action.
In a 12-minute outstanding and display of precision strafing, rocketing and bombing with great accuracy at close quarters, and despite their targets being barely discernible in the smoke, dust and afternoon haze, a range of PAF combat aircraft delivered a lethal combination of munitions, including a PGM launched from an F-16 beyond visual range. Combat pilots flying aircraft at supersonic speeds barely have split seconds to acquire targets and release their munition while simultaneously taking evasive measures against ground fire and anti-aircraft missiles (AAMs).
Having been on the receiving end of intense Indian aerial strafing, rocketing and bombing in December 1971 in the Chor Desert, the accuracy of shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles was really amazing. On December 12, 1971 44 Punjab (now 4 Sindh) commanded by Lt-Col (later Brig) Mohammad Taj SJ and Bar led 60 Bde (33 Div) brought post-haste by road, rail and road to Mirpurkhas from concentration area near Rahimyar Khan to relieve the Indian pressure in 55 Bde (18 Div) at Chor and Umerkot without air cove.
After the crack of dawn, I lost count of the dozens of Indian aircraft hunting in pairs on the road to Umerkot and then onto Chor. Dropping napalm from time to time, they got only a few vehicles from our entire Bde, in stark contrast to Indian turkey shoot on 18 Div’s tank columns without air cover in the Cholistan desert. The intensity diminished after 2 pm when my unit shot down the second of two Indian aircraft by concentrated machine gun fire.
With AAMs nowadays the results would have been much different. On the other hand the lethality of the PGMs at Tameywali gives one more reason to be grateful to God that they were not in use against us in 1971.
Hovering at ‘stand-off’ position for more than 15 minutes is difficult. Four Cobra gunships engaged their targets with precision and accuracy, speaking volumes for their professionalism and skills. It takes a special breed of men to magnificently brave the elements as our helicopter pilots have done in Swat and Fata during counter-insurgency operations.
Our artillery has always been beyond compare in being precise and committed. The impact of the steady drumbeat of massed artillery fire of the Artillery Division was clearly discernible, accuracy to go with the lethality of the barrage. One would be lucky to survive such concentrated shelling.
The high point was the tank assault by an armoured regiment. What a difference gun stabilisation and smooth bore barrels make, with striking improvement in the skills to go with it. Even when stationary, the Sherman tanks supporting us in Chor destroyed enemy machine gun and Recoilless Rifle bunkers only after several attempts.
Firing with lethal accuracy on the move is a huge game-changer, emulating the Mongols riding their horses at full gallop targeting their arrows with accuracy. One of our problems has been fire control, the unwritten practice being to ‘fire at will’ covering gaps by crossfire, a thoroughly bankrupt practice. The army now correctly emphasises shoot to kill – ie fire for effect.
One major surprise was the presence of Brig Thukral, the Indian defence attache, the first time, at least in my memory, that there was Indian representation at any major army event. The confidence in making this strong overture of conciliation to India is praiseworthy; will they reciprocate? Brig Thukral witnessed firsthand our firepower as well as the professionalism and élan that go with it.
The overriding lesson here: a smaller motivated force with such lethal potential can always contain and even destroy much larger forces. A word of praise for our hosts, Lt Gen Abid Pervaiz Comd 2 Corps and his men, who coordinated and executed the entire exercise with superb timing and without incident – truly magnificent!
In April 2010, the culmination of PAF’s Exercise High Mark was a live-fire demonstration at PAF’s Thal Firing Range. The devastating fire drill emphasised how lucky one was to survive the Indian aerial strafing, rocketing and bombing in December 1971 in the Thar Desert. However it was really frustrating that sitting in the row in front of me the three stars likely to be Kayani’s replacement as COAS had chests awash with medals but had never been near combat, seeing even this spectacular demonstration from a safe distance.
With Kayani soon after getting himself re-appointed as COAS for three years (there being no such thing as a three-year extension), mercifully that became a moot point. In Tameywali the first three COAS contenders were present. Thankfully all had combat experience. Kayani has ensured that the army has a richness in the quality of senior officers, professional soldiers of great integrity and character.
Taking over from Gen Musharraf, Kayani was aware that the army’s professionalism had been severely degraded by the military’s involvement in civilian governance. To his credit Kayani went at it systematically, creating task forces, holding discussion and studies, war games, exercises with troops, analysis thereof etc.
And all this while the army has been engaged in extensive counter-insurgency operations. The live-fire culmination of this process of reforming the army (the ‘Azm-e-Nau’ series) is a fitting tribute to Kayani’s retirement – that is, if the government does not persuade him to become chairman JCSC with the expanded powers of promotions/postings of one star and above.
Former president Zardari never risked visiting an armed forces unit as Supreme Commander, let alone one under open skies with live ammunition. The body language of mutual comfort and confidence was on full display when Kayani personally drove Mian Nawaz Sharif to the live fire exercise podium in an open jeep. Was there anything to indicate that the COAS was about to retire barely three weeks later? If the indispensable Kayani declines to become the chairman of the JCSC, he will likely continue in a civilian capacity as de-facto defence minister.
The Tameywali integrated fire drill re-emphasised that the armed forces must have coordinated higher defence mechanism, which is only possible by correcting the anomalies in the chain of uniformed command. Having survived the Musharraf experience, the PM will not have to be gun shy about khaki appointments anymore but ‘appoint and relax’, paraphrasing (with apologies) the ‘fire and forget’ formula of PGM munitions.
The writer is a defence and political analyst. Email: ikram.sehgal@wpplsms.com
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Rawalpindi - November 5, 2013:
Pakistan today conducted a successful test fire of Short Range Surface to Surface Missile Hatf IX (NASR). The test fire was conducted with successive launches of 4 x missiles (Salvo) from a state of the art multi tube launcher. NASR, with a range of 60 Kilometer and in-flight maneuver capability is a quick response system, with shoot and scoot attributes. It contributes to the full spectrum deterrence against threats in view of evolving scenarios.
The test was witnessed by the Chief of Army Staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, Director General Strategic Plans Division, Lieutenant General (Retd) Khalid Ahmed Kidwai, Chairman NESCOM, Mr Muhammad Irfan Burney, Commander Army Strategic Forces Command, Lieutenant General Tariq Nadeem Gilani, senior officers from the strategic forces and scientists and engineers of strategic organizations.
The Chief of Army Staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, congratulated the scientists and engineers on this outstanding achievement which consolidates Pakistan's deterrence capability.
Pakistan today conducted a successful test fire of Short Range Surface to Surface Missile Hatf IX (NASR). The test fire was conducted with successive launches of 4 x missiles (Salvo) from a state of the art multi tube launcher. NASR, with a range of 60 Kilometer and in-flight maneuver capability is a quick response system, with shoot and scoot attributes. It contributes to the full spectrum deterrence against threats in view of evolving scenarios.
The test was witnessed by the Chief of Army Staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, Director General Strategic Plans Division, Lieutenant General (Retd) Khalid Ahmed Kidwai, Chairman NESCOM, Mr Muhammad Irfan Burney, Commander Army Strategic Forces Command, Lieutenant General Tariq Nadeem Gilani, senior officers from the strategic forces and scientists and engineers of strategic organizations.
The Chief of Army Staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, congratulated the scientists and engineers on this outstanding achievement which consolidates Pakistan's deterrence capability.
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Maj Gen Naushad passes away in US
ISLAMABAD: Maj Gen Naushad Hasanat Kayani, former director general of Military Intelligence (MI), passed away in the United States where he had gone for treatment of blood caner.
The true gentleman and thorough professional soldier developed respiratory complications last week and he couldn’t recover from it. The late general has left behind four children and a widow. He was the brother-in-law of Surgeon General Pakistan Army Lt General Azhar Rashid.
Maj Gen Naushad was known for his dedication for humanity and was viewed as one of the smartest officers of the Pakistan Army. He was appointed as DG MI on April 8, 2010 by Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani.
Maj Gen Naushad was an illustrious officer who was from the infantry. Promoted to the rank of major general on March 2010, he took over charge from then MI chief Major General Muhammad Asif who is now a three-star general.
Maj Gen Naushad relinquished the charge on August 16, 2013 because his three-year service as DG MI had completed. He was admitted to hospital for treatment. He had been diagnosed with cancer a few years ago.
Maj Gen Naushad was among the few bright minds who were sent for studies at the US Army War College in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. He not only excelled in critical thinking and security studies but was also equally competent in sports, tennis being among his favorite games. At the US Army War College, he was part of the Jim Thorpe Sports Day tennis team. Besides tennis, he was also a good hockey, squash and cricket player.
It was because of this that he was selected to participate in the Pakistan Army Championships in 1984 through 1986. As for competence in security and intelligence matters, his subordinates remember him as a fine commander, who always upheld merit and initiated several projects of strategic importance for the Pakistan Army during the course of his career. He led the MI during tough times, when the Abbottabad raid and Salala attacks took place. He was a spymaster who knew how to handle crises well, including one such incident in which four Military Intelligence personnel, including a civilian informant, were gunned down by militants during a clandestine operation against a Punjab based terrorist outfit on a hilly area near Pind Dadan Khan district, located between Jhelum and Chakwal.
Though it was an apparent blow to an operation that was meant to be carried out in extreme secrecy, its objective nonetheless was to track down the networks or Punjab-based militant groups, thus adding weight to Pakistan Army’s repeated claims that it was serious in its fight against all sorts of terror elements. Furthermore, this operation dispelled the rumors once and for all, spread by some miscreant elements, that the Pakistani military and its agencies were allegedly supporting such groups as ‘assets.’
The family members of Maj Gen Naushad Kayani are in Rawalpindi and his mortal remains are being brought to Pakistan. An announcement about his funeral prayer and burial is expected to be made in a day or two.
ISLAMABAD: Maj Gen Naushad Hasanat Kayani, former director general of Military Intelligence (MI), passed away in the United States where he had gone for treatment of blood caner.
The true gentleman and thorough professional soldier developed respiratory complications last week and he couldn’t recover from it. The late general has left behind four children and a widow. He was the brother-in-law of Surgeon General Pakistan Army Lt General Azhar Rashid.
Maj Gen Naushad was known for his dedication for humanity and was viewed as one of the smartest officers of the Pakistan Army. He was appointed as DG MI on April 8, 2010 by Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani.
Maj Gen Naushad was an illustrious officer who was from the infantry. Promoted to the rank of major general on March 2010, he took over charge from then MI chief Major General Muhammad Asif who is now a three-star general.
Maj Gen Naushad relinquished the charge on August 16, 2013 because his three-year service as DG MI had completed. He was admitted to hospital for treatment. He had been diagnosed with cancer a few years ago.
Maj Gen Naushad was among the few bright minds who were sent for studies at the US Army War College in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. He not only excelled in critical thinking and security studies but was also equally competent in sports, tennis being among his favorite games. At the US Army War College, he was part of the Jim Thorpe Sports Day tennis team. Besides tennis, he was also a good hockey, squash and cricket player.
It was because of this that he was selected to participate in the Pakistan Army Championships in 1984 through 1986. As for competence in security and intelligence matters, his subordinates remember him as a fine commander, who always upheld merit and initiated several projects of strategic importance for the Pakistan Army during the course of his career. He led the MI during tough times, when the Abbottabad raid and Salala attacks took place. He was a spymaster who knew how to handle crises well, including one such incident in which four Military Intelligence personnel, including a civilian informant, were gunned down by militants during a clandestine operation against a Punjab based terrorist outfit on a hilly area near Pind Dadan Khan district, located between Jhelum and Chakwal.
Though it was an apparent blow to an operation that was meant to be carried out in extreme secrecy, its objective nonetheless was to track down the networks or Punjab-based militant groups, thus adding weight to Pakistan Army’s repeated claims that it was serious in its fight against all sorts of terror elements. Furthermore, this operation dispelled the rumors once and for all, spread by some miscreant elements, that the Pakistani military and its agencies were allegedly supporting such groups as ‘assets.’
The family members of Maj Gen Naushad Kayani are in Rawalpindi and his mortal remains are being brought to Pakistan. An announcement about his funeral prayer and burial is expected to be made in a day or two.
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Has the Pakistan Army any System when they distribute the infantry weapons to the soldiers ? Because always you will finde in the Media Pakistani Infantry Companys equipped with different Numbers of G-3,Type-56,Ak-47 and AKM-47 and I could not finde any standard or system ! Is it like :"Take what you will finde and what we have " ?
May be some Members can bring light in this issue ? I would be very thankfull.......
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AK-47
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Has the Pakistan Army any System when they distribute the infantry weapons to the soldiers ? Because always you will finde in the Media Pakistani Infantry Companys equipped with different Numbers of G-3,Type-56,Ak-47 and AKM-47 and I could not finde any standard or system ! Is it like :"Take what you will finde and what we have " ?
May be some Members can bring light in this issue ? I would be very thankfull.......
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AK-47
AKM
A Chinese Version of the Type-56
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Yep, t is kinda take whatever you like but then you must remember that G 3 is our mainstay assault rifle. Still, we frequently use AKs now as it is suitable for CQB and is easier to handle in semi-mountainous (FATA), mountainous (Siachin) areas. Also, it is better to use AKs during IS duties and for crowd control (Muharram, election duties etc). So, these days our units have both of 'em.
And, frankly, i dont find any issue with having more than one type of weapon in a unit. Dont we have MP5s parallel to G3s already?
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I also dont see any Problem in it, but when you have Platoon with 3 different Types of AK-47 I thought only it would give some maintain problems.
In My System all AKM should be located to Special Forces SSG, Punjab Anti Terror Force etc. And all Type-56 and Ak-47 to the Army.....but thats may be a bad Idea.
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As I understood it to be the G-3 is our mainstay, our battle-rifle if you will !
The Ak-47s are for inhospitable climates & for CQB situations !
What are the MP5s useful for ?
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From my expirience by analysing the Media, in the Pakistan Army the Certified Radio Operator, Tank Crew and Officer is getting this light sub machine Gun. And yes of course for Close quarter Battles.
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I've read something similar that Officers are usually armed with the MP5s but I do wonder why that is so ?
Whats wrong with them being armed with regular G-3s or Ak-47s ?
And if its because we want the Officers to be armed with lighter, more portable guns why not go for some of the better assault rifles out there ? We've got only a few thousand officers as they are - Maybe arm them with M4s like the SSGs ?
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