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Thats unfair. Its the leader who gets the laurels. He stood firm and took a "decision" to go nuclear.



Not even one can be term as "achievement".

You need to distinguish between duty and achievement. However fulfilling your duty with honesty and meeting expectations which are always high is an achievement itself.
Arghh...winning a war against soviets, that is an achievement, whatever happened after that is a different story..oh and word around the corner is we have been making fool.out of anericans in Afghanistan since 9/11...that is an achievement and the obl....
 
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Nawaz Sharif -- Nuclear bummmmbbbbb 1998

Nawaz Shariff was not even going to test the nuclear bomb, it was the Generals who gave him a big danda up his rear end to keep him straight.
 
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Arghh...winning a war against soviets, that is an achievement, whatever happened after that is a different story..oh and word around the corner is we have been making fool.out of anericans in Afghanistan since 9/11...that is an achievement and the obl....

Tell me you dont really want to discuss seriously. :lol:

Poking nose and playing mercenaries in other's war is never an achievement.

Not sure who have been fool in afghanistan for last decade....Just ask common pakistani and your economy.

OBL....an achievement one can not write on their CV?
 
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Thats unfair. Its the leader who gets the laurels. He stood firm and took a "decision" to go nuclear.



Not even one can be term as "achievement".

You need to distinguish between duty and achievement. However fulfilling your duty with honesty and meeting expectations which are always high is an achievement itself.
So the whats the duty of Armed forces? protect the land and its people and intrests. This is what Pak armed forces have been doing from years. Pakistan after 1998 was a nuclear state that was a achievemnt. I never said that our Armed forces can capture or seize India, they cant no matter how hard they try but I assure you they can inflict some serious damage.
I want to add one more achievement "mass production of nuclear bombs while we are pressurised by the world" to me they all are achievements. After mumbai attack india didn't do any thing that was a achievment too.
 
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Nawaz Shariff was not even going to test the nuclear bomb, it was the Generals who gave him a big danda up his rear end to keep him straight.

Tum log Mia Nawaz Shariff se jalte ho....jealous people. Long live lala!!
 
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Tum log Mia Nawaz Shariff se jalte ho....jealous people. Long live lala!!

aapko bhi nawaz ganjay nay kia apnay puranay fashion desigern suit zakat mainn diye thay kiya?
 
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So the whats the duty of Armed forces? protect the land and its people and intrests. This is what Pak armed forces have been doing from years. Pakistan after 1998 was a nuclear state that was a achievemnt. I never said that our Armed forces can capture or seize India, they cant no matter how hard they try but I assure you they can inflict some serious damage.
I want to add one more achievement "mass production of nuclear bombs while we are pressurised by the world" to me they all are achievements. After mumbai attack india didn't do any thing that was a achievment too.

Being nuclear is achievement of pakistan, not armed forces.

Not want to get into rhetoric, but India has severely damaged your country in past with little or no repercussions from Pakistan army, so please don't gloat.

aapko bhi nawaz ganjay nay kia apnay puranay fashion desigern suit zakat mainn diye thay kiya?

He pays India jazya to keep in power. He is also our agent. :D
 
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The acheivments of Pak army are as follows
1 Swat operation
2 2005 earthquake
3 2010 floods
4 Gwader port
5 building 3 nuclear civilian plants and chasma
6 1965 war
7 shooting down Israeli fighter planes in Middle east
8 helping the Americans in Somalia
9 helping Srilankan Army to fight Tamil Tigers
10 Helping the Mujhaideen in Afghanistan from 70s to 90s.

1 - You sow what you reap. Pakistan Army had created these militants and they cleaned their own mess

2 - True

3 - True

4 - Gwadar Port was bought in 1958 from Oman. At that time i believe the Prime Minister was Malik Feroze Khan Noon. The Development was not done by just one Government. Nawaz Sharif built the Makran Coastal Highway and
Musharraf invited Singapore and China to build the Port. Now Nawaz trying to implement Pak-China Economic Corridor with investments in Railways, Energy Projects, Motorway Projects etc.

5 - True but would not have been possible without civilians like AQ Khan and Munir Ahmed Khan

6 - True but didn't gain any Kashmir Territory. Just defended the country

7 - Not something to be proud of. It wasn't our War. It cost India and Israel to become allies and engage in Military deals

8 - U.S Policy on Pakistan never changed

9 - True. We desperately needed a South Asian ally and a chance to stop India from spreading its influence

10 - Again. You sow what you reap.
 
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Being nuclear is achievement of pakistan, not armed forces.

Not want to get into rhetoric, but India has severely damaged your country in past with little or no repercussions from Pakistan army, so please don't gloat.



He pays India jazya to keep in power. He is also our agent. :D

So last time I checked Indians were saying that Pak army(ISI) was involved in Mumbai Attack, Pakistan Army Supporting Opressed Kashmiris in indian Occupied kashmir.Khalistan was never supported by Pak Army. Yeah we didnt do any damage to the mighty Indians.
 
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So last time I checked Indians were saying that Pak army(ISI) was involved in Mumbai Attack, Pakistan Army Supporting Opressed Kashmiris in indian Occupied kashmir.Khalistan was never supported by Pak Army. Yeah we didnt do any damage to the mighty Indians.

Nothing close to bifurcating a nation in 2.

Mumbai attack, Khalistan support - your army cant even accept in open. :lol:

And last time I checked pak government condemn the "terrorist" attack on Mumbai. Shame, they condemn their own army. :tsk:

6 - True but didn't gain any Kashmir Territory. Just defended the country.

With no intent to flame and offence, to end up defending was actually an embarrassment when you start up as an aggressor to grab Kashmir.

PA fought well with no objectives met. So no achievement there which you agree too.
 
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Culpability is quite evident - a country that has fought 4 wars and numerous conflicts and it's citizens have to think so hard to chalk out an achievement for its armed forces? what does that prove?
 
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Tell me you dont really want to discuss seriously. :lol:

Poking nose and playing mercenaries in other's war is never an achievement.

Not sure who have been fool in afghanistan for last decade....Just ask common pakistani and your economy.

OBL....an achievement one can not write on their CV?
Offcourse i was being sarcastic, this topic in itself is a joke there is nothing much to ralk about it......Pakistan stands firm...that in itself is an achievement, where many organs failed to stand and uphold itself, Military stood firm, that is an achievement....am looking at it from organizational pov and as an institution...for an organisation or an institution stand firm in itself is an accomplishment. ....i rest my case...nothing more to say at this foolish topic....
 
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Offcourse i was being sarcastic, this topic in itself is a joke there is nothing much to ralk about it......Pakistan stands firm...that in itself is an achievement, where many organs failed to stand and uphold itself, Military stood firm, that is an achievement....am looking at it from organizational pov and as an institution...for an organisation or an institution stand firm in itself is an accomplishment. ....i rest my case...nothing more to say at this foolish topic....

I think you consider a coup also a achivement
 
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That awkward moment when PML(N) sides with TTP, BLA and India against the military of Pakistan.
 
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