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Pakistan Army commits treason in Presidents Office

And wasn't Imran losing byelections even in KP before he 'sold' the false narrative against America?? There is a reason Imran didn't call for 'early elections' before the NCM was tabled and the reason was Imran knew he was going to lose the next elections: His great governance was not going to enable him to get back to power without the Establishment's backing. Otherwise, Imran would have and SHOULD have called for early elections before April 2022. Imran is basically a coward!!!

History will tell the truth: Imran was still counting on some in the Establishment to bring the MQM and others back to support Imran in March 2022 and it was only in late March 2022, when Imran realized the game was over, he decided to use the 'cypher' bull$hit!! A BS which he has himself retracted from because now he needs his 'lobbies' in America/West. What an unprincipled JOKE your Caliph of Riyastat e Medina is!!

As for Imran's popularity in KP: You and PTI fanbois live in a static world!! Popularity rises and falls everywhere in the world. Look at the recent low level elections in KP itself which you Imran fanbois are cheering: Over 60 percent votes went against Imran!! PPP and the Noonies as well as ANP also gathered a lot of the so-called 'Pashtun' votes. Benazir Bhutto won from Peshawar in 1988!!
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May be we are talking about another KP
Is there anything here in Maryland

President Alvi is a foreign qualified dental surgeon, he did a precision surgery, defanged the duffers. Two post graduate foreign degrees....


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In Pakistan he is considered illiterate and maryum nawaz is considered PhD holder
 
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President has written a letter to the Chief Justice, SC, the CJP, about the whole episode.

Hope here he redeem himself for all the inactions, detours, pliable justice and going by the law of necessity, a lame duck CJP so far.

About time he takes strong decisions before been relegated to the dustbins of history.
 
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So you are going to deny EVEN the poll numbers where the PTI guy won??
Speaks so much for you and the rest of the cultists!!!
Hopefully Google isn't banned in America

Because you are acting it is


You can try a VPN
 
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President Alvi & Official Secrets Act?​


 
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Hopefully Google isn't banned in America

Because you are acting it is


You can try a VPN

I was referring to one source about one result I saw about one result where 60+ percent vote went against PTI even in KP. I could look it up and refute you. But even what you have qouted here doesn't sound like a Bhutto in Larkana. Google is not banned in America but logic in banned in Imran fanbois!!

But, as I said above, popularity is transient!! And not just in Pakistan. You and PTI mindset is static in which your Cocaine Khan is riding some high horse from Karachi to Torkhum: Nothing is farther from the truth. I gave you examples of how Non Imran parties had been winning in KP but I don't think you have a democratic mind to accept dissent--which aligns fine with the Cocaine Khan 'mind', if there was one.
 
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You are so wrong in your whole reading and understanding of the law, and equally confident in your analysis. Amazing.

Please, go and read the constitutions relevant to this, and then some sane and leading lawyers of the country too on what they have to say.
  • President’s assent in 10 days. If the President refers back a bill to Parliament it is considered in a joint session and if passed by majority is deemed to have been passed by both Houses. Sent again to President to shall give assent in 10 days failing which assent shall be deemed to have been given.

So, if the President doesn't consent first time around, the parliamentary process is repeated again, and then it SHALL become law, regardless of President's assent. What is so difficult to follow? The president is a rubber stamp. He can throw a small roadblock of 20 days delay and that is it.

 
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Pakistani Awam right now, since sovereignty and independence are a joke to them anyways.
 
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As God is my witness, I did not sign Official Secrets Amendment Bill 2023 & Pakistan Army Amendment Bill 2023 as I disagreed with these laws. I asked my staff to return the bills unsigned within stipulated time to make them ineffective. I confirmed from them many times that whether they have been returned & was assured that they were. However I have found out today that my staff undermined my will and command. As Allah knows all, He will forgive IA. But I ask forgiveness from those who will be effected.

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Unprecedented! Now there is no respect for President office as well. GHQ should come out open now and impose martial law officially

Again IK and PTI folks are trying to drag Pakistan's military into this issue.

If the Bill was never returned by the office staff of the President then the responsibility is with the President;.

He clearly failed and now blaming everyone else.

If he has any shame, he would resign.
 
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Zia Sahib:
From your own quote and my own quote. As I said above, over 60% voted against Imran in Imran's so-called 'stronghold' of KP. You referred me to something above and I would like the world/forum to see your dishonesty. I am not into endless banters here. But some things are for the world to see!!

Bolded parts. That's from your OWN link!!! Imran got 35% votes in his so-called stronghold of KP AND he was losing lower level elections in KP before the NCM vote and that's why the coward didn't call for early elections despite having the right to do so.


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According to the provisional consolidated result from all the 155 polling stations in Mathra, Inam Ullah of PTI secured 20,333 votes, The News reported. This seat fell vacant after the death of tehsil chairman Farid Ullah of JUI-F.

Meanwhile, the Maulana Fazl ur Rehman-led Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F), however, failed in the said constituencies. Its candidate, Rafiullah, could not win the chairmanship of the tehsil council Mathra and remained second by securing 13,564 votes.

Among the other candidates, Iftikhar Ahmed of the Jamat-e-Islami I for 9,546 votes, Aziz Ghaffar of ANP got 2,721 votes, Ali Abbas of PPP got 5,377 votes and Fazlullah of the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) got 3,351 votes.

As many as 55,607 people cast their vote while the turnout remained at 26%."

If he has any shame, he would resign.

They have no shame. Remember the famous words by Khwaja Asif after the 2014 Dharnas? 'Koi Sharam hoti hey. Koi Haya hoti hey!'.
 
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  • President’s assent in 10 days. If the President refers back a bill to Parliament it is considered in a joint session and if passed by majority is deemed to have been passed by both Houses. Sent again to President to shall give assent in 10 days failing which assent shall be deemed to have been given.

So, if the President doesn't consent first time around, the parliamentary process is repeated again, and then it SHALL become law, regardless of President's assent. What is so difficult to follow? The president is a rubber stamp. He can throw a small roadblock of 20 days delay and that is it.


Read what you quoted again, and again, and again....maybe one more time. Then tell me, do we have a parliament now?

The bill was NEVER sent back to the parliament and then passed by it to consider it as deemed assent.

What you quoted means the following:

1- President sends back the bill
2- Joint session approves it
3- Then sent back to President, after 10 days the bill becomes law.

You are talking about step 3, when this is step 1.

In our law and rules of business, the bills expire once the assembly is dissolved. So, the assembly got dissolved, President did not approve the bill, so now the bills have expired.

I cannot make it any more simpler than this.

Again IK and PTI folks are trying to drag Pakistan's military into this issue.

If the Bill was never returned by the office staff of the President then the responsibility is with the President;.

He clearly failed and now blaming everyone else.

If he has any shame, he would resign.

So the President can accurately and perfectly return 15 bills, but then in 2 ki bari he suddenly forgot all the rules and procedures on how to return a bill?

It's like if you get your home robbed by your servants, and then I tell you to vacate your house and go on the streets because you are now blaming your servants rather than taking responsibility.
 
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Power flows from the barrel of gun.

But this is true: Signature forged. The two bills were stupid and not needed anyway. Good riddance.

The President and the Chief Justice are Imran's last assets. In less than a month, both will be gone. Imran's many advantages are slowly but surely removed. Imagine him sitting across the aisle after the NCM as the Opposition Leader and the advantages he had then.

Imran is not going to come out of this ahead, at least not in short term. Mark my words.
President won't go, buddy.
Four provincial, NA , and senate are president's constituency which is not complete. He will stay as new president cannot be elected.
Only way, 111 brigade attack presidency and remove him and bring black marketeer sanjarani in president house.
 
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