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Damm, the PAF would have had such a potent force been had they came through. They really did sting Pakistan at its hour of need.
Anyway, I don't hold out much hope for the Zulus or ATAK to be honest. Great if it happens, it doesn't I hope the PA is all hands on board on getting hold of the Z-10.
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We can keep crying about American interference and sanctions, but I find this a moment of shame that we have let someone put us in this position. Think about the alternate: America prevents Turkey from using its engine and Pakistan comes back saying we will develop our own engine. That would be a position of strength, whereas today we are at the mercy of the whole world.
 
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We can keep crying about American interference and sanctions, but I find this a moment of shame that we have let someone put us in this position. Think about the alternate: America prevents Turkey from using its engine and Pakistan comes back saying we will develop our own engine. That would be a position of strength, whereas today we are at the mercy of the whole world.

As far as I can see, the US wanted to use this opportunity as a leverage in Afghanistan policy. Remember, the US has also cut its financial support to Pakistan. And they tried to blackmail Pakistan. However, - may will soon fall into open sources -, when they seen the consortium of PAK-TR have a study on alternatives, these news stories fell off the agenda. Pakistan would lose max 2 years, but the strategic losses of the US would be much greater. Nowadays it is only on the agenda of the Russian media like Sputnik, and the Chinese biased internet media.
 
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The reason that the T129 will probably go through is. The Z-10ME is becoming a viable option. We are being offered this at the same rate as the PLA or near enough. That is how serious they are.

As per an officer who inspected the ME version, "they addressed our concerns visually at least".

I suspect the MEs are coming for trials next year.
 
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I don't think America will lose it's last leverage on Pakistan by banning both Zulu and engines for t-129's .
 
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utter wrong one more proof that how much stupid our military is . despite bitten by snake dozens of time still shamelessly looking and begging from USA like a pure slave

That is very true as well, but I think there is sea change in our attitude. I don't think Pakistan will get American helicopters. In fact American gear is now a thing of the past. Pakistan has viable alternatives.
 
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Parliament and senate should pass a law banned Pakistani forces to buy USA made weapons . this may be help in future .

Bro go even one more step further and make an constitutional amendment as politicians can be bought in our country, their are plenty of Zaradari's amongst us and put an end to all this drama once for all. " Never ever any more arms sales From USA or even a free transfer to our country again" for get it, not required. We rather fight with daggers or kitchen knives at least they are reliable.:bunny:
 
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As per an officer who inspected the ME version, "they addressed our concerns visually at least".

I suspect the MEs are coming for trials next year.
Thats I like to hear!
 
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USA stopped $ for coalition aid
They r OK with if we buy f16 Zulu with our own $
Turks gonna procure USA components its Good business for USA company so won't be a problem for t129 purchase as Turkish official said
 
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USA stopped $ for coalition aid
They r OK with if we buy f16 Zulu with our own $
Turks gonna procure USA components its Good business for USA company so won't be a problem for t129 purchase as Turkish official said
those f-16s we were paid for and P3Cs we were paid for were also CSF ?
 
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I know every one here hates Uncle Sam
And blame the army for its biased approach to US weapons but every thing is not black and white
Late 80s and 20s Chinese systems were not par with US nor russian.
And majority of EU system had US strings attached directly or indirectly and over priced as well , Pakistan simply couldn't afford it
Army had to chose best option with best price
US equpiment were always given to Pakistan in discounted prices while EU was charging High Price Tag and many times free of charge.
Fault does lie with army but they were doing the best
I think this is the right time and you do see Pakistan Army taking this approach building local industry with help of china , Turkey.
Adding platforms different sources has its pros and cons as well.
 
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The Mi-28 with Russian engines, heavy payload and service ceiling of almost 16,000 feet, plus it can carry 3 troops.
Trialed and rejected.
There is an option of Rooivalk AH-2, with service ceiling of 20,000 ft, long range ATGM and french engines.
Immature platform. Frankly we can achieve its mutual production rights but we don't have capacity to do so.
 
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Trialed and rejected.

Immature platform. Frankly we can achieve its mutual production rights but we don't have capacity to do so.
Figures PAA options are very limited
 
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