Pakistan Air Force To Gain Superiority Over Indian Air Force

[MiG-21]

Funny you say that. PAF loves parading, inviting Alan Warnes of AFM to its facilities, to JF-17 bombing missions and whatnot. Not to mention parading JF-17 in Airshows all around the world! It's no secret JF-17 is going to have BVR missiles, to be saying JF-17 BVR integration is a secret is unbelievable.

 

[Dazzler]

full Mirage story..

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-air-force/44991-capabilities-paf-mirage-3-5-a.html

T-Darter has been with PAF since 1999...

The Darter Business - Denel unveils T-Darter

TRISHUL: Babur LACM & Ra’ad ALCM Detailed

Funny you say that. PAF loves parading, inviting Alan Warnes of AFM to its facilities, to JF-17 bombing missions and whatnot. Not to mention parading JF-17 in Airshows all around the world! It's no secret JF-17 is going to have BVR missiles, to be saying JF-17 BVR integration is a secret is unbelievable.

Actually it is Alan Warnes who is in obsession with PAF, not the other way around. And your other statement is so childish that does not worth a reply.

 

[MiG-21]

How can you have the T-Darter before even the South Africans? T-Darter was still in concept and preliminary stages in 2008. See the link again.

“T Darter is a concept radar-guided missile,” Wessels says. “We are [proposing to use] some of our existing technologies and [are] looking for partners for the rest. We will typically provide the nose of this missile, which is the radar and are looking for a partner for the ‘back end'” he says."
They still need help from other Major missile manufacturers to design the back-end of the missile, back in 2008! I doubt T-darter is operational even now. Even wiki has no info of it.

And your other statement is so childish that does not worth a reply.

Why childish? Is a simple statement like too much to ask? Afterall you guys are developing and opening it for export right? A simple press release mentioning the successful integration of obvious capability it is supposed to have is impossible?
Alan warnes needs to sell his magazine, so he will tag along any airforce who is willing to host him. PAF is too fond of publicity.

 

[Dazzler]

How can you have the T-Darter before even the South Africans? T-Darter was still in concept and preliminary stages in 2008. See the link again.

“T Darter is a concept radar-guided missile,” Wessels says. “We are [proposing to use] some of our existing technologies and [are] looking for partners for the rest. We will typically provide the nose of this missile, which is the radar and are looking for a partner for the ‘back end'” he says."
They still need help from other Major missile manufacturers to design the back-end of the missile, back in 2008! I doubt T-darter is operational even now. Even wiki has no info of it.


Why childish? Is a simple statement like too much to ask? Afterall you guys are developing and opening it for export right? A simple press release mentioning the successful integration of obvious capability it is supposed to have is impossible?
Alan warnes needs to sell his magazine, so he will tag along any airforce who is willing to host him. PAF is too fond of publicity.

Instead of suffering a panic attack, just go through the Mirage thread for answer of your queries. I don't have time to repeat the same story over and over for ignorants like you. T-Darter pic taken in a facility in Pakistan...by Sir Parvez Shamim (former PAF GD pilot)

http://sistemasdearmas.com.br/aam/aamdarterr.jpg
Peace!

 

[MiG-21]

That is obviously a mockup. See the link you posted! It was still in concept stages in 2008! Did the PAF invent a time machine to get to the future and bring the missile back in 1999?

 

[sancho]

so is the ROSE series of Mirage III and Vs, approximately 80 have been upgraded with ROSE1 configuration, 40-50 with ROSE II and III though only ROSE 1 have Grifo M3 PD radar, search 120, track 60-70 km allows them BVR capability, rumoured to have been integrated with T-Darter BVR missile in limited numbers. Whole F-16 fleet is BVR capable, we have APG-66V enhanced radar in our BLK 15s since start, a radar that allows AIM 120 integration, 16 more that we received also have an upgraded APG-66V1, OCU version.

Remember, this is the confirmed fleet as of today...

How rumors can confirm anything? Also a radar alone doesn't give you BVR capability, you have to integrate BVR missiles as well and the MLU will just do the integration work for the F16s, so non of the Block 15s can use AIM 120 only because it has a long range radar, same goes for Mirages.

JF 17, F16 Block 52s and the already upgraded F16 MLUs have BVR capability, but that's less than 100 fighters, which have this "confirmed" so far.

T-Darter pic taken in a facility in Pakistan...by Sir Parvez Shamim (former PAF GD pilot)

http://sistemasdearmas.com.br/aam/aamdarterr.jpg
Peace!

Which doesn't mean anything, until you show us a pic of the integration of the missile to the fighter, or do I have to remember you about the refuelling probe pics for JF 17, that turned out to be nothing but hot air as well? We also have seen the rumors about H2 and H4, where still no confirmation is available if they are A2A or A2G missiles, let alone if they are integrated to any fighter.

So lets stick to facts and then you get to the numbers I stated above.

 

[ziaulislam]

That is obviously a mockup. See the link you posted! It was still in concept stages in 2008! Did the PAF invent a time machine to get to the future and bring the missile back in 1999?

well you are right sir..we have only f-16 as BVRs thunder,mirage are not..happy now!