Pakistan Air Force pounds Haqqani insurgents.

[rockstar08]

Pakistan is making another mistake ...
this is going to hurt our country in long term ..

 

[Zaalim]

getting personal. Eh!

Not at all, but that is the reality.

 

[Samandri]

@engineer saad Yesterday, I was telling you that Pakistan Army need's to eliminate both Good and Bad Terrorist to eliminate Terrorism from Pakistan, else it will prevail. See, Pakistan Air force Pounding your Good Terrorist.

Most probably Only Hafiz Gul Bahadur militants were pounded in Datta Khel, there were reports that Haqqanis fled NW just before the start of operation, to Hangu via Kurram.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Who are the belligerents representing Afghan Pashtuns in the battlefield against Kabul govt and foreign forces?
Afghan Pashtuns are STILL not properly represented in the new govt and the entire ANA is basically Northern Alliance militia in uniform. Whether you like it or not, the Haqqanis, Hizb-e-Islami and Mullah Omar has genuine support from Afghan Pashtuns. We cannot antagonize them too much since they are already marginalized from Kabul. We need to find a political solution to this problem on top of force application if and when its the last resort. America is going to leave, we are here for ever. We need to think ahead not by 10 years but by a 100. Pissing off Afghan Pashtuns beyond a certain limit is going to be last thing we can afford.

@Hyperion @farhan_9909 > Carry on

The majority of Afghan Pashtun who support the Taliban likely do it for the same reasons we are hearing of with respect to the local support enjoyed by the TTP in North Waziristan and Khyber. Large parts of FATA had entire economies and systems built upon the terrorist/insurgent/criminal machinery of the Taliban.

The issue here is the absence of the State, which initially allows insurgent groups to exert control via force and fear, and then ingratiate themselves with the local populace by making the local economy and "security" vested in supporting the insurgent cause. There is certainly some ideological support, and the existing conservative socio-economic mores allow for an easier acceptance of an extremist religious mindset, but the primary reason for local support is the absence of the State and economic dependencies on the terrorist/criminal economy, and not ideological sympathies with the terrorist/insurgent goals.

As such, bombing the Afghan and Pakistani taliban into oblivion in cooperation with the elected Afghan government is not necessarily going to make large parts of the Afghan Pashtun enemies of Pakistan, and that is not the concern. The concern here from the Pakistani perspective is that if Pakistan goes all out against the Afghan Taliban and associated groups, and the elected Afghan government (currently led by Ghani) does not deliver on improving security in Afghanistan and the Afghan Taliban end up controlling large parts of Afghanistan, then these Afghan Taliban will in turn support the Pakistani Taliban and associated terrorists in Pakistan in far greater numbers than they currently are, possibly in cooperation with hostile regional players.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Not at all, but that is the reality.

Just remember how USA locks up Pakistanis on minor suspicisons.

Hameeda bulbul would not survive more than 10 mins if he was a retired or evern active duty general.

Learn from your adopted homeland, how to keep peace.

Learn a bit, jaane mun.

 

[Burhan Wani]

Most probably Only Hafiz Gul Bahadur militants were pounded in Datta Khel, there were reports that Haqqanis fled NW just before the start of operation, to Hangu via Kurram.

If haqqanis are truthful and don't want to harm Pakistan then God bless them. Amen

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Most probably Only Hafiz Gul Bahadur militants were pounded in Datta Khel, there were reports that Haqqanis fled NW just before the start of operation, to Hangu via Kurram.

There were rumors that the Haqqanis fled to Hangu but any "resettlement" of large numbers of Haqqani fighters in the Tribal belt would require local Tribal support and acceptance, much as the Haqqani presence in North Waziristan was dependent on the local tribal warlord Gul Bahadur. Of course if the "resettlement" was of small numbers of the senior leadership, that would probably be easier.

 

[Samandri]

Whatever..... united they liberate Afghanistan from soviets. Aren't they?

Just few weeks ago, they killed more than 57 people in a volleyball match in Paktika, they are more or less like TTP.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

About time.

@CENTCOM Result of recent meetings?

Strikes on the Haqqanis/Gul Bahadur were occurring before the COAS's trip to the US:

Many Haqqani Commanders Killed in NW OPS - Pak Army

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

If haqqanis are truthful and don't want to harm Pakistan then God bless them. Amen

Truthful about what? They should give up their weapons and run in the Afghan elections, peacefully, if their cause really does have majority Afghan-Pashtun support.

 

[Samandri]

There were rumors that the Haqqanis fled to Hangu but any "resettlement" of large numbers of Haqqani fighters in the Tribal belt would require local Tribal support and acceptance, much as the Haqqani presence in North Waziristan was dependent on the local tribal warlord Gul Bahadur. Of course if the "resettlement" was of small numbers of the senior leadership, that would probably be easier.

In settled areas its lot easier, you dont need tribal host but state's permission.

 

[Burhan Wani]

Just few weeks ago, they killed more than 57 people in a volleyball match in Paktika, they are more or less like TTP.

But their spoke person didn't accept responsibility and their spiritual leader Mullah Omer condemn attacks on civilians.

 

[Burhan Wani]

Truthful about what? They should give up their weapons and run in the Afghan elections, peacefully, if their cause really does have majority Afghan-Pashtun support.

Actually they said elections are biased and they don't accept such procedure to elect government. It is against sharia according to their beliefs.

 

[Samandri]

But their spoke person didn't accept responsibility and their spiritual leader Mullah Omer condemn attacks on civilians.

Their operational network is not under mullah omar's Taliban, they operate and act independently, though they are nominally part of Quetta Shura. Strictly speaking, they are not even Taliban, their history dates back to 70s. As for as i know, haqqani network is quite careless about attacks on civilians compared to traditional taliban. In Afghanistan, they are known for being agents of ISI, they are not wrong in assuming that.

 

[Bouncer]

Bibi you can only eat as much you can digest. The so called 'good Taliban' have deep popular support in Afghanistan's majority Pashtuns. The minority farsi speakers already hate Pakistan to the gut. We would be totally stupid to antagonize the Pashtuns more than we can afford to. The Afghan Pashtuns generally if not in a majority still support Pakistan. Taking on the Haqqanis, Hikmatyar, Mullah Omar and others of the same group will not be taken positively by the ordinary Afghan Pashtun because they think that if any belligerent is representing them in the Afghan powerplay both civil and military its them since the Kabul govt and ANA is ethnically imbalanced. This is our 'majboori' behind not taking on the so called 'good Taliban'.

Just hypothetically, what will happen if we were to antagonize Afghan Pushtuns?