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Sir Murad and Neo where is the pics ???????????
 
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AFM 2008 Nov

BLACK PANTHERS AT NIGHT
AFM’s Alan Warnes gained exclusive access to 16 Squadron ‘Black Panthers’ at Peshawar to see the A-5 Fantan flying operations at night.
 
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AFM 2008 Nov

BLACK PANTHERS AT NIGHT
AFM’s Alan Warnes gained exclusive access to 16 Squadron ‘Black Panthers’ at Peshawar to see the A-5 Fantan flying operations at night.

u guys in the west have the advantage of getting the mags 1-month in advance while we slobs in the 3rd world have to wait for 4-weeks. anyway thanks for the heads-up. it keeps me motivated.
 
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IAF News in AFM - October issue:

Indian Spice at Red Flag:
(Short description and pics of the deployment of SU-30MKI's detachment at Red Flag)
Key Points:
247-man contingent from the IAF arrived at Mountain Home AFB, Idaho for the type's first training deployment in the US.
The detachment comprised 8 SU-30MKI strike-fighters, 2 IL-78MKI tankers and an IL-76MD transport a/c.
The IAF detachment trained with Air Combat Command's 366th FW and F-16C's from the Agressor Sqd based at Eielson AFB, Alaska.
On August 6, all 11 a/c flew to Nellis three days before Red Flag Commenced. over the next 2 weeks, pilots from 20 Sqd flew in large Blue Force strike package in air2air and a2ground roles.
The IAF detachment used two Litening III ATP for all Red Flag missions.

other news:
Maharashtra Govt. Citation Excel 560XL (N783XL)(c/n 560-5783) delivered.

First HAL assembled Hawk Handed Over:
Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) handed over the first HAL assembled BAE systems Hawk Mk 132 AJT to the IAF during a ceremony in Bangalore on August 14, one of 42 that will be built under licence by HAL and follows on from 24 that were built in the UK.

AW101 Looking Good for IAF VIP requirement:
Augusta Westland's AW101 is emerging as the front-runner for the IAF requirement for 12 new medium lift VIP helicopters. however india's lenghty acquisition processes mean that is likely to be another 12 months before a firm contract is signed.
 
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No major pakistan related news except:

Pakistan Acquiring 20 More T-37s (as already reported elsewhere on the forum)

Key Points:

PAF continues to acquire T-37s instead of new trainer a/c.
previous acquisitions include 29 T-37Bs and 39 T-37Cs but now have retired the older model T-37Bs. there were plans to transfer 19 T-37Bs to BanglaDesh some years back but they remain in storage in Pakistan.




About T-37s and K-8s...

From the very colorful, non-camoflague paint scheme of the academy T-37 and K-8s, it seems that they dont have at all any wartime role. If ever k-8s are flown even for some recce or BDA, they shall be very visible.

Changing the paint scheme in emergency during wartime does not seem to be a practical option.
 
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About T-37s and K-8s...

From the very colorful, non-camoflague paint scheme of the academy T-37 and K-8s, it seems that they dont have at all any wartime role. If ever k-8s are flown even for some recce or BDA, they shall be very visible.

Changing the paint scheme in emergency during wartime does not seem to be a practical option.

What do you want to acieve with K8 or T37? These planes are trainers. And trainers need to be very visible. During wartime you need fighters in the air.
 
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holy cow! did i miss something here? which issue are u referring to?

Sir its in the October "US" edition, a good friend sent me the picture by email.
But I'm waiting for my own copy so I can scan it myself with higher resolution.
I'll post them asap.

Sir Murad and Neo where is the pics ???????????
Waiting for Sir Murad to email me the pictures.
 
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If I remember correctly, according to PAF official history 1988-1998, both FT-5s and K-8s have been wired for Sidewinders. They have a wartime role of airfield defence.
Haroon


About T-37s and K-8s...

From the very colorful, non-camoflague paint scheme of the academy T-37 and K-8s, it seems that they dont have at all any wartime role. If ever k-8s are flown even for some recce or BDA, they shall be very visible.

Changing the paint scheme in emergency during wartime does not seem to be a practical option.
 
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If I remember correctly, according to PAF official history 1988-1998, both FT-5s and K-8s have been wired for Sidewinders. They have a wartime role of airfield defence.
Haroon

this things are done for "last-ditch" efforts.
 
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Saudi EF2000 in Saudi colours (1001/zk060/cs001)

2 seat LCA ready. First flight delayed from december 2008 to march 2009

Russia second su35 flown

2 more mi-171 for Pak anti narcotics force (total 4 now)

8 last Pak AH1F to be refurbished in the US. The remaining original 19 AH1S will be updated soon.
 
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Much more important news....

China to accelerate air force modenisation

China is likely to accelerate the modernisation of its fighter fleet over the next decade, and is looking to induct additional indigenous aircraft and order new types from Russia.

Beijing's Chengdu J-10 fighter was displayed publicly for the first time earlier this month at Airshow China 2008 in Zhuhai, where Chinese officials indicated that it would also develop new versions of the type. A B-model aircraft has already been proposed, with this to have a thrust-vectoring engine and an active electronically scanned array radar.

"The J-10 has been identified as the backbone of the Chinese air force. They will continue to increase the production rate and improve on the earlier version," says one observer. China has never revealed how many J-10s have entered service since 2006, but industry sources speculate that more than 100 have been produced from an eventual requirement for around 300.

A naval version of the J-10 is also on the cards, with sources saying that China hopes to get its aircraft carrier programme up and running in the next decade. But with an indigenous naval fighter expected to take too long to develop, China is reportedly negotiating with Russia's Rosoboronexport arms agency for an interim batch of 48 Sukhoi Su-33 fighters.

China has also shown interest in the Su-35, but could first place a significant order for Chengdu's FC-1/JF-17 fighter, which was jointly developed with Pakistan. Concurrently, Beijing is pursing several highly secretive studies to develop a stealthy fifth-generation fighter, and is also reportedly developing a stealth bomber, various unmanned air vehicles and indigenous powerplants.

Meanwhile, the air force's first cadre of eight pilots to graduate from the Chinese Flight Test Establishment finished their two-year course in mid-November, with each having received instruction on seven aircraft types and logged almost 1,000 sorties.

http://www.flightglobal.com
 
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I think only after our base of JF-17 production is setup.. China will order for herself.
 
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