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[Readerdefence]

Hi any knowledgeable member can answer the followings Q
1 if we say we want to buy j series Chinese jets (twin engine) member on this forum reply
Back in negative as these are cloned through Russians technology and need to take out Russian
Approval
2 so how. PAF can upgrade to V level technology for f16 what about American copy rights & technology Transfer though members talk about Turkish upgrades still even not open any of their
Jets or install anything without prior USA approval
Any member with more knowledge can enlighten on this matter
Thank you

 

[Hassannn85]

To the senior members of the forum,

Engine technology is critical for any jet fighter/chopper and requires decades of research and huge investment. I was wondering is it possible for PAKISTAN to sign an agreement with Rolls Royce etc. and have jet engines manufactured in Pakistan alongwith transfer of tech. This will obviously cost a lot but is a sure way of expediting the process of self sufficiency in jet engine manufacturing.

I understand our local industry isnt upto scratch but we have to start somewhere.

We could follow this by another project in helicopter manufacturing just like Algeria has done with Leonardo.

Manufacturing our own tanks, jets and helis with input/collaboration from China, Turkey, Malaysia, Sweden in Avionics could go a long way.

As far as the engine bit goes, guys, do you think it makes sense? If yes, how long before its doable?

 

[syed_yusuf]

To the senior members of the forum,

Engine technology is critical for any jet fighter/chopper and requires decades of research and huge investment. I was wondering is it possible for PAKISTAN to sign an agreement with Rolls Royce etc. and have jet engines manufactured in Pakistan alongwith transfer of tech. This will obviously cost a lot but is a sure way of expediting the process of self sufficiency in jet engine manufacturing.

I understand our local industry isnt upto scratch but we have to start somewhere.

We could follow this by another project in helicopter manufacturing just like Algeria has done with Leonardo.

Manufacturing our own tanks, jets and helis with input/collaboration from China, Turkey, Malaysia, Sweden in Avionics could go a long way.

As far as the engine bit goes, guys, do you think it makes sense? If yes, how long before its doable?

I totally agree but it will require a government level initive to make Pakistan considerable self sufficient in various engines

 

[Vortex]

And do you honestly think that they would let us to « master » this crucial technology which jet engine is ?

I have doubts. Very strong doubts.

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

Formation of thunder during Myanmar Military Parade !

 

[araz]

To the senior members of the forum,

Engine technology is critical for any jet fighter/chopper and requires decades of research and huge investment. I was wondering is it possible for PAKISTAN to sign an agreement with Rolls Royce etc. and have jet engines manufactured in Pakistan alongwith transfer of tech. This will obviously cost a lot but is a sure way of expediting the process of self sufficiency in jet engine manufacturing.

I understand our local industry isnt upto scratch but we have to start somewhere.

We could follow this by another project in helicopter manufacturing just like Algeria has done with Leonardo.

Manufacturing our own tanks, jets and helis with input/collaboration from China, Turkey, Malaysia, Sweden in Avionics could go a long way.

As far as the engine bit goes, guys, do you think it makes sense? If yes, how long before its doable?

Your best bet is to piggy back on the Chinese development cycle while getting help from the Russians for critical technology. The likelihood is you will not get anywhere in the short to intermediate future and will have to be reliant for engines on the Chinese/Russians. One reason for it is our small market and the lack of metallurgical expertise and research.
A

 

[syed_yusuf]

And do you honestly think that they would let us to « master » this crucial technology which jet engine is ?

I have doubts. Very strong doubts.

No body gives u for free
Pakistan needs to start from some where ?

 

[Vortex]

No body gives u for free
Pakistan needs to start from some where ?

Yes then we should start studying metallurgy, physics, thermodynamics, engineering etc etc etc sciences.

 

[CriticalThought]

Hi any knowledgeable member can answer the followings Q
1 if we say we want to buy j series Chinese jets (twin engine) member on this forum reply
Back in negative as these are cloned through Russians technology and need to take out Russian
Approval
2 so how. PAF can upgrade to V level technology for f16 what about American copy rights & technology Transfer though members talk about Turkish upgrades still even not open any of their
Jets or install anything without prior USA approval
Any member with more knowledge can enlighten on this matter
Thank you

Can you please rephrase your question so it is understandable? Or write in Urdu I will do the translation for you.

To the senior members of the forum,

Engine technology is critical for any jet fighter/chopper and requires decades of research and huge investment. I was wondering is it possible for PAKISTAN to sign an agreement with Rolls Royce etc. and have jet engines manufactured in Pakistan alongwith transfer of tech. This will obviously cost a lot but is a sure way of expediting the process of self sufficiency in jet engine manufacturing.

I understand our local industry isnt upto scratch but we have to start somewhere.

We could follow this by another project in helicopter manufacturing just like Algeria has done with Leonardo.

Manufacturing our own tanks, jets and helis with input/collaboration from China, Turkey, Malaysia, Sweden in Avionics could go a long way.

As far as the engine bit goes, guys, do you think it makes sense? If yes, how long before its doable?

This has been discussed many times on the forum. Here is the jist

1. If you start from scratch, then member messiach estimates 25 years to get something working. Now although you can get it working, my own view is that you will probably run into IP rights issues as soon as you try to sell in the international market. Which means, it will be a venture in net loss into which you will need to keep pumping money.

2. The next suggestion by messiach is to start a JV on gas turbines. The underlying technology is similar for gas turbines and jet engines.

3. Respectable members such as messiach and Oscar have hinted about considerable Russian help to improve RD-93.

 

[The Accountant]

No body gives u for free
Pakistan needs to start from some where ?

Start by making car engines

 

[khanasifm]

Available on internet

 

[fatman17]

Malaysian Air Force is reportedly set to acquire 2 JF-17 for initial evaluation, after the Sino-Pakistani fighter had won its 1st dogfight. Block 2 variants are expected to be delivered by mid 2020, Block 3 v.(w/ AESA radar n helmet-mounted display system) is said to be offered. https://t.co/h9WQ8qIgHG

 

[ghazi52]

Commander Royal Air Force of Oman Air Vice Marshal Matar Ali Matar Al-Obaidani has lauded the professionalism and achievements of Pakistan Air Force in recent years.

He said this while talking to Air Chief Marshal Mujahid Anwar Khan in Islamabad today.

Various matters of professional interest and regional security came under discussion during the meeting.

The Air Chief offered support and cooperation in the field of aviation and military training to Royal Air Force of Oman.

Both the dignitaries agreed to further augment the bilateral defence cooperation between two countries.

Earlier, Commander Royal Air Force of Oman visited Air Headquarters Islamabad. On arrival, the distinguished guest was presented Guard of Honour by a smartly turned out contingent of Pakistan Air Force.

To pay homage to the martyrs of Pakistan Air Force, Commander Royal Air Force of Oman laid floral wreath at Martyrs' Monument.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Same people giving bases to US navy looking straight up at Gwadar coast.

Commander Royal Air Force of Oman Air Vice Marshal Matar Ali Matar Al-Obaidani has lauded the professionalism and achievements of Pakistan Air Force in recent years.

He said this while talking to Air Chief Marshal Mujahid Anwar Khan in Islamabad today.

Various matters of professional interest and regional security came under discussion during the meeting.

The Air Chief offered support and cooperation in the field of aviation and military training to Royal Air Force of Oman.

Both the dignitaries agreed to further augment the bilateral defence cooperation between two countries.

Earlier, Commander Royal Air Force of Oman visited Air Headquarters Islamabad. On arrival, the distinguished guest was presented Guard of Honour by a smartly turned out contingent of Pakistan Air Force.

To pay homage to the martyrs of Pakistan Air Force, Commander Royal Air Force of Oman laid floral wreath at Martyrs' Monument.

 

[Windjammer]

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