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[Incog_nito]

L-159 coming to PAF?

 

[chaklala2]

is it just me or the B model looks much more advanced than the As? Just has a much slicker look...

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

is it just me or the B model looks much more advanced than the As? Just has a much slicker look...

Looks are subjective, but yes, the JF-17B is more advanced. It is built with the three-axis FBW system, has a lower wing-loading and new areas for fuel (compensating for the loss caused by the second seat). I hope the JF-17 Block-III just uses the JF-17B airframe. You can make a single seat variant of the JF-17B much in the same way Mikoyan made single seat MiG-29KUB or Czech L-159A (i.e. retaining the same airframe, but replacing the rear seat with the spine extension) @messiach

 

[fatman17]

#PakistanAirForce is collaborating with #China on the 5th gen fighter (FGF) program. 60% of Project Azm staff is civilian. Production of the FGF (prototype) will begin in 5 years. https://t.co/RoJ1ip6YqX

 

[khanasifm]

?? It is more likely that paf /pac May be working on single engine variant ??

 

[ziaulislam]

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?? It is more likely that paf /pac May be working on single engine variant ??

where are we going to bring a very strong engine?
you would need at least an f-35 class engine, which we dot have
so almost certainly a twin engine

 

[Advocate Pakistan]

where are we going to bring a very strong engine?
you would need at least an f-35 class engine, which we dot have
so almost certainly a twin engine

A single engine in 140-150 KN class could be viable. For a light NGF, what is the thrust rating of Chinese engine to be used on J-20 in future.

 

[blinder]

This new AW139 was test flying 09oct17 at Venegono in Italy.
Probably delivered by now in one of those An-124s

Sorry if this was posted before.

Rgds
Erwin

 

[TOPGUN]

This new AW139 was test flying 09oct17 at Venegono in Italy.
Probably delivered by now in one of those An-124s

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Sorry if this was posted before.

Rgds
Erwin

That is one bada$$ picture thx for sharing

 

[ziaulislam]

A single engine in 140-150 KN class could be viable. For a light NGF, what is the thrust rating of Chinese engine to be used on J-20 in future.

well look at f-35 it has 180+ engine and still is considered under powered

 

[fatman17]

A Pakistani pilot participated in the flight test of JF-17B #01 on 7 December for the first time. https://t.co/YRTLu4VP87 https://t.co/O9gotl9xDy

 

[Thorough Pro]

Looks like the dorsal "hump" is not as pronounced as in the first example, any PS experts to do some visual/pixel calc?

The latest news indicated that the JF-17B 02 prototype flew for the first time on December 7, 2017.
- Last Updated 12/8/17
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[Advocate Pakistan]

where are we going to bring a very strong engine?
you would need at least an f-35 class engine, which we dot have
so almost certainly a twin engine

A single engine in 140-150 KN could be viable. For a light NGF, what is the thrust rating of Chinese engine to be used on J-20 in future.

well look at f-35 it has 180+ engine and still is considered under powered

It needs not necessarily to be in the category of F-35. A MTOW of 16-20 tons would suffice.

 

[ziaulislam]

A single engine in 140-150 KN could be viable. For a light NGF, what is the thrust rating of Chinese engine to be used on J-20 in future.

It needs not necessarily to be in the category of F-35. A MTOW of 16-20 tons would suffice.

so why do people think F 35 is under powered and doesn't has enough space for weapons(which i dont think)
we need a viable fighter and i think it would at least need power comparable to f-35 because all weapons and fuel has to be inside and within the regular full flight parameters

 

[Raider 21]

Looks like the dorsal "hump" is not as pronounced as in the first example, any PS experts to do some visual/pixel calc?

Probably for additional avionics or a slight re-design. Definitely looks better than the single-seat version in my opinion.