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Pakistan Orders 40 JF-17 Fighter Aircraft, Contract signed with Foreign Customer

AVIC press release says Pakistan has signed for 40 more JF-17s. In addition one export customer has ordered JF-17 aircraft (customer and numbers ordered unknown).

Not sure which block is it.

 

[Erroroverload]

Not written by me ... found it on BD forum

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FRESH inside info, not speculation - sharing what i come to know

PAF is seriously considering ~40 high end fighters currently they are in talks with UK for EF2000 T3 Blk 20+ with CFT or Su-35S or some version of it with AESA Chinese radar and other avionics. In case if Russia fail to provide in time PAF is working as plan B with Chinese for a variant of J-16.

one thing for sure that uncle sam 8 - 18 f-16V offer is not considered sufficient by PAF. PAF might got for F-16V upgrade to blk 52+ and get few more of them but they need top end 4.5 gen fighter. with quite a few 5th gen technologies.

Su-35S for PAF is high on the agenda. followed by EF2000 with fall back plan of some J-16 variant for PAF. it seems that PAF is dead serious about this acquisition.

other news is, PAF is in serious negotiations with SAC to have a JF-31 based on FC-31; if all goes well the contract is expected by 2017-18 to be inducted in squadron operations by 2022-25.

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one more thing, i asked quite a few queries some informal some direct, but putting 1 + 1, i come to the conclusion that

PAF wants EFT with CFT and newer engines, AESA etc. this will help integrate US based equipment. vertical as well as horizontal integration. Also PAF wants source code to integrate local and Chinese equipment. UK seems to be ok so far.UK needs 10% down with rest easy loan payments. roughly 10% USD. to sweeten the deal EFT manufacturer has thrown EJ200 engine local prod and future JFT integration saperately

Russia would not allow US equipment integration but ok with local and Chinese, they need 20 -25% down, roughly 800 mil USD

the issue: there is a very strong opposition to buying British equipment in PAF, after taste of post independence support to PAF i guess, do not know for sure.

total number PAF is looking for 40 with 32 as an option

aap k moonh mein ghee shakkar

 

[fatman17]

Saturday, November 14, 2015

China-Pakistan fighter said to have found new buyer

China-Pakistan fighter said to have found new buyer

Source: China Daily Editor: Zhang Tao
2015-11-13 09:210

The FC-1 Fierce Dragon, or JF-17 Thunder, a fourth-generation fighter jet co-developed by China and Pakistan, has found a buyer following several years of speculation and promotion.

The aircraft's developers, Aviation Industry Corp of China and Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, signed a contract with an unidentified buyer, AVIC said in a statement sent to China Daily on Tuesday.

It did not elaborate on when the contract was signed or how many FC-1s are to be sold. The Pakistan Air Force is the only user of the lightweight, multi-purpose combat aircraft, with 60 in active service.

"Now it has a new buyer. Moreover, several potential buyers have expressed to us their strong intention of introducing the aircraft, and they have performed comprehensive assessments of the plane," Liu Yu, deputy head of AVIC's military aircraft trade wing, was quoted in the statement as saying at a news conference in Dubai on Monday.

About 1,100 exhibitors from more than 60 countries are attending the ongoing 14th Dubai Airshow, which opened on Sunday in the United Arab Emirates.

"This plane is an ideal replacement for second-and third-generation fighter jets still in service with many militaries. The FC-1 has ... good capabilities in air combat and air-to-ground strikes, and a high cost-performance ratio," he said.

This is the first time an AVIC official has confirmed the new FC-1 contract.

Air Vice-Marshal Arshad Malik, vice-chairman of the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, said at Monday's news conference that the aircraft demonstrated strong combat capability through various drills.

Forty FC-1s will be delivered to the Pakistan Air Force in the near future, he said.

According to Western military observers, China and Pakistan have been actively promoting the FC-1 to the international market.

However, no deals were made despite reports often emerging saying some militaries were close to inking a contract.

Nevertheless, the China-Pakistan sales team remains optimistic as they still stick to the prediction that in next 20 years, at least 300 FC-1s will be sold globally.

Posted by Coatepeque at 7:02 PM

 

[mzeeshanfahd]

ahhh .guys can anyone comment on this ..... jets breaking barrier or something else .... I saw it today on FB .... the area is AK

 

[fatman17]

L15 deal in the works?

Ukraine is seeking to license produce the Chinese Hongdu L-15 and assemble the fighter craft locally at the Odessa Aviation Plant. The cost and number of planes are unknown but the Ministry of Defense hopes to start production in 2016. While it had been speculated last year that the Ukraine may go withwestern companies to help modernize their forces, the Chinese deal will provide a cheaper alternative. Producing the L-15 will have the added the bonus of familiarity due to its similarity to the Russian Yak-130. The early 2000s saw discussions of the possibility of joint production between Russia and Ukraine of the Yak-130 however recent tensions over the Crimean annexation and fighting in Ukraine’s eastern region has seen an end to any military cooperation. The deal with China will see an increase in the production of the aircraft amid earlier deals with Zambia and Pakistan.

 

[Windjammer]

Mr.Ivor Ichikowitz of Paramount Group, South Africa presenting model of a UAV to the PAF.

 

[Sulman Badshah]

Mr.Ivor Ichikowitz of Paramount Group, South Africa presenting model of a UAV to the PAF.

its not UAV ..

Its AHRLAC light attack aircraft ... good for COIN

 

[don boss@34]

Wheres paf with stelth staying any idea !?

 

[Windjammer]

its not UAV ..

Its AHRLAC light attack aircraft ... good for COIN

Ok, so it's this toy.... doubt it's much use to the PAF.

 

[Sulman Badshah]

Ok, so it's this toy.... doubt it's much use to the PAF.

aircraft like super tucano's , texan 6 and ahrlac etc are best for anti terrorism operations..... they have very much low operational cost/hour, they are accurate, all weather and can do day night operations

 

[majid mehmood]

aircraft like super tucano's , texan 6 and ahrlac etc are best for anti terrorism operations..... they have very much low operational cost/hour, they are accurate, all weather and can do day night operations

even k8 aircraft

 

[JamD]

even k8 aircraft

K8 is still a jet and it's operating costs would be higher than these aircraft.

 

[Sulman Badshah]

even k8 aircraft

K8 is still a jet and it's operating costs would be higher than these aircraft.

K8 have limitations .. they can't take guided munitions and they have their constraints in all weather day night missions

 

[majid mehmood]

K8 is still a jet and it's operating costs would be higher than these aircraft.

its operating cost is around $900 per hour
while tucano is $500 per hour

K8 have limitations .. they can't take guided munitions and they have their constraints in all weather day night missions

what due mean by guided munitions it can fire pl 5 and pl7

 

[Sulman Badshah]

what due mean by guided munitions it can fire pl 5 and pl7

i am talking air to ground munitions for terrorist ..