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Pakistan a paper MFN of India
By: Salman Abduhu | Published: November 14, 2011
LAHORE – Indian exports to Pakistan are on the rise though it has yet to be granted Most Favourite Nation (MFN) status whereas Pakistani exports to India have downward trend despite its earning MFN status years back from New Delhi.
The real problem, experts say, is that Pakistani exporters cannot get access to Indian markets because of the non-tariff barriers created by Indian bureaucracy. ‘You are MFN on paper but an outcast actually’ is the impression the Pakistani exporters are getting form New Delhi.

The Pak-India bilateral trade, particularly through Wagha border route, is only benefiting to India as 31,897 trucks carrying goods worth Rs21 billion reached Pakistan while only 4,664 trucks having goods of Rs1.33 billion were sent to the nuclear rival state during fiscal year 2010-11.

According to available data, India exported goods of Rs5.27 billion to Pakistan in the four months (July to Oct) of fiscal year 2012, while Pakistan exported products of Rs770.35 million to the neighbouring country in the same period. Figures revealed that as many as 8,643 trucks crossed Wagha border to reach Pakistan from India in this period.

The most important item which Pakistan imports from India is soya oil. As per statistics, during last fiscal year Pakistan imported soya oil of Rs13.14 billion, tomatoes of Rs4.31 billion, garlic worth Rs670.46 million, cotton worth Rs2.7 billion, green chilli and capsicum worth Rs260.61 million, ginger of Rs320 million and some other vegetables, including bitter gourd, lady finger and cucumber, of Rs220 million. During the first four months of the current fiscal year, India exported to Pakistan tomatoes of Rs1.73 billion, soya oil of Rs2.9 billion and cotton of Rs470.95 million.

On the other hand, during the last fiscal year, Pakistan exported to India dry dates (chhohare) of Rs400.61 million and onions of Rs370.32 million. In July 2011 to Oct, Pakistan sent dry dates of only Rs310.12 million and gypsum worth Rs190.64 million to India.

Experts say that before approving the MFN status for India formally, Islamabad has already granted the status of the Most Favoured Nation to India informally as the bilateral trade is largely benefiting India while Pakistan has been a loser. Despite having restricted trade with India, they said, the trade balance by Indian Commerce Ministry shows that Pakistan exports to India, during 2008-09 and 2009-10, stood at $370 million and $276 million respectively, whereas Indian exports to Pakistan without MFN status stood at $1,439 million and $1,573 during the same period respectively.

As a whole the business community in Pakistan is divided on the issue of MFN status to India as interests of the industrialists and traders run in absolutely different directions. However, some business community representatives have reacted seriously to increasing volume of trade with India, saying it should not be at cost of local manufacturers. They criticised the government for its lack of support for local industries. They said that it is very unfortunate that Pakistani delegations have always failed to safeguard the interest of local manufacturers whereas they have advocated the Indian interests.

Some businessmen are highly sceptical of the haste shown so far on the questing of giving India MFN status and have advised the government officials to remain cautious at every level in order to protect national economic interests and encourage local industry to be more competitive and forward looking. They hoped that Pakistan team would safeguard their interests in India during next week’s talks.

All Pakistan Cement Manufacturers said local manufacturers have had no benefit of MFN status given to Pakistan by India in 1995 due to tough procedure and shrewd planning by the Indian authorities. Industrialists said that the Indian exports are rising without MFN status whereas Pakistani exports dropped despite having MFN status. They said, because of the non-tariff barriers created by Indian bureaucracy, the Pakistani exporters could not get access to Indian markets.

Pakistan’s delegation will discuss issues of non-tariff barriers with Indian officials and give it top priority on its agenda aimed at enhancing trade ties with neighbouring country, said president of Lahore Chamber of Commerce and Industry. He said that it is high time that Pakistan demand India remove all non-tariff barriers. He further said that Pakistani manufacturers have been waiting for the equal treatment since 1995, when Pakistan was granted MFN status by India.
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Indian exports to Pakistan are on the rise though it has yet to be granted Most Favourite Nation (MFN) status whereas Pakistani exports to India have downward trend despite its earning MFN status years back from New Delhi.

What did Pakistan do in 1996 to earn the MFN status ? :azn:

Experts say that before approving the MFN status for India formally, Islamabad has already granted the status of the Most Favoured Nation to India informally as the bilateral trade is largely benefiting India while Pakistan has been a loser.

It is unfortunate that people with no knowledge of what MFN is become experts and write $hit. Trade deficit will exist one way or the other. Just because two countries have a trade deficit and one exports more than the other does not mean the party earning less has given informal MFN status. Just cheap journalism and manipulative language I would say.

Some businessmen are highly sceptical of the haste shown so far on the questing of giving India MFN status and have advised the government officials to remain cautious at every level in order to protect national economic interests and encourage local industry to be more competitive and forward looking.

It is about 15 years since India gave Pakistan MFN status and as a signatory of WTO Pakistan is obligated to give India MFN status. However, some business men think that a movement after 15 long years is haste. Well done.

All Pakistan Cement Manufacturers said local manufacturers have had no benefit of MFN status given to Pakistan by India in 1995 due to tough procedure and shrewd planning by the Indian authorities. Industrialists said that the Indian exports are rising without MFN status whereas Pakistani exports dropped despite having MFN status. They said, because of the non-tariff barriers created by Indian bureaucracy, the Pakistani exporters could not get access to Indian markets.

India does not have Pakistan specific trade barriers. India has a set of regulations including standard of cement that can be procured. India imports large quantity of cement from China. Why is China not complaining about it as it is the same for them. The answer is Chinese business men are smarter and see the business at the end of it and pursue to get the paper work sorted. If Pakistani cement industries want to export and make some money, they have to get the paper work done.

Pakistan demand India remove all non-tariff barriers. He further said that Pakistani manufacturers have been waiting for the equal treatment since 1995, when Pakistan was granted MFN status by India.

Sorry, that wont happen. If the rules change for Pakistan, they will change for all. The only Pakistan specific trade barriers are in the area of VISA and entry clearance and that in my opinion should stay. We cant have security situation because of trade. Security is of higher priority than trade.


:cheers:
 
Tell me that what can pakistan export to india which is ahead of pakistan in almost every goods in both quality and quantity?.
 
china is doing same but no body points finger on them.

I really don't think the fuss Pakistan makes for MFN is worth the time. In any case, all will fine in good time.
Tell me that what can pakistan export to india which is ahead of pakistan in almost every goods in both quality and quantity?.

Cement, textiles, Food grains and seasonal fruits and vegetables.
 
A more logical answer would be..Pakistanis are trying to export what India already has in abundance..and what we what to export is not welcomed in India (IT, Tech and Engineering goods).

So one way or the other this Indo-Pak trade is a big fail!
 
A more logical answer would be..Pakistanis are trying to export what India already has in abundance..and what we what to export is not welcomed in India (IT, Tech and Engineering goods).

So one way or the other this Indo-Pak trade is a big fail!

Maybe, Maybe not. If Pakistan can export to China, why not to India.

The only trade barrier I can see is restricted VISA and for a good reason.

Over 7,500 Pakistanis overstayed in India: RTI

Over 7,500 Pakistanis overstayed in India: RTI - The Times of India
 
Pakistanis fail to export much to india simply because they dont know trade well enough.
other reason is that india has an advantage due to large scale, better marketing ( almost 50% of channels in pakistan are indian or atleast based on indians, they support indian culture ).

Apart from that, pakistani business men find it easier to import from other countries and resell instead of producing own goods and exporting..
 
What did Pakistan do in 1996 to earn the MFN status ? :azn:

Once again, Pakistan Never Asked for MFN status, like I explained once before the concept behind MFN, It would suit India to grant Pakistan MFN rather than Pakistan's interest to get MFN status to India.


It is unfortunate that people with no knowledge of what MFN is become experts and write $hit. Trade deficit will exist one way or the other. Just because two countries have a trade deficit and one exports more than the other does not mean the party earning less has given informal MFN status. Just cheap journalism and manipulative language I would say.
The theory of comparative advantage infers that the trade should enhance gains for both countries (two countries case) but does not signifies that this process will be able to continue or not? If Bilatral trade is benefiting India and people like you think that it will continue indefinitely, it will not. The exchange rate of INR vis-a-vis PKR will start to appreciate as a result of trade surplus in India, resulting in erosion of its comparative advantage over the longer term. Thus trade will only be able to contribute continuously (As per theory), if no trade surplus/deficit is realized at both ends.


It is about 15 years since India gave Pakistan MFN status and as a signatory of WTO Pakistan is obligated to give India MFN status. However, some business men think that a movement after 15 long years is haste. Well done.
Do i need to re-explain the concept?



India does not have Pakistan specific trade barriers. India has a set of regulations including standard of cement that can be procured. India imports large quantity of cement from China. Why is China not complaining about it as it is the same for them. The answer is Chinese business men are smarter and see the business at the end of it and pursue to get the paper work sorted. If Pakistani cement industries want to export and make some money, they have to get the paper work done.
The same cement manufacturers were exporting to UAE before the housing market slump. We also had similar complains from BD about Indian non-tarrif barriers, its not Pakistan alone. India can errect any such barriers as it has strong protectionist policy historically, but on the other hand it should also be ready to face the retaliatory measures from others in response.



Sorry, that wont happen. If the rules change for Pakistan, they will change for all. The only Pakistan specific trade barriers are in the area of VISA and entry clearance and that in my opinion should stay. We cant have security situation because of trade. Security is of higher priority than trade.
We are talking about non-tarrif barriers not these things..........

but anyways, what we can get cheaper from India relative to others, its no harm in importing that thing even though it turns the overall balance in favor of India. It benefits Pakistan by reducing the import bill, not a bad thing at all.
 
We don't want to do anything with India, bhatari government should take their MFN back. Pakistani people should MFN iran, china, russia, and central asians countries and rest of muslim world. Who on the right mind would want to do MFN to india whilst 7lac army occupies Khasmir. Bharat is the dump site of south asia and asia as a whole. Should be left like that.
 
This will happen in due course of time,
MFN is not a permanent status, and parties may mutually or exclusively revoke this status.
 
We don't want to do anything with India, bhatari government should take their MFN back. Pakistani people should MFN iran, china, russia, and central asians countries and rest of muslim world. Who on the right mind would want to do MFN to india whilst 7lac army occupies Khasmir. Bharat is the dump site of south asia and asia as a whole. Should be left like that.

this is the different between china and pakistan
 
We don't want to do anything with India, bhatari government should take their MFN back. Pakistani people should MFN iran, china, russia, and central asians countries and rest of muslim world. Who on the right mind would want to do MFN to india whilst 7lac army occupies Khasmir. Bharat is the dump site of south asia and asia as a whole. Should be left like that.

problem is what you have to offer might already be available in other countries...considering pakistan's current exports i do not think you have anything other than agricultural products and minerals to offer to developed nations...
 
The i dont know why many pakistani opose MFN is coz

After Giving MFN our Bilateral Trade can touch 6 Billion USD in 3 yrs , out of Which Pakistani Exports can rise to 2 Billion USD from Less than 400 Million USD at present
But on the other hand Indian Exports will rise from 1.7 Billion in 2010-11 to 4 Billion USD in 3 yrs after MFN
Hence my point is that while Indian Exports will only increase by 2.3 Times but Pakistani exports will go up by five times
And trade Deficit though will increase from 1.3 Billion at present to 2 Billion ,

But what you people need to understand is that trade Deficit will continue to be there whether you like it or not , coz unlike china , Pakistan and Bangladesh do not make things which are essentially required by India , that we have to import from u
Whatever You guys try to export , is already available in India or in several cases cheaper in India due to economies of scale
 
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