Pakistan: A Nation for Hire?

[SQ8]

The question perhaps lies in what exactly do we owe the Arabs in terms of monetary debts, and their pull with the west. Their investments in the west ensure that they have quite a bit of diplomatic pull with them especially in the back channels.

 

[VelocuR]

Pakistan: A Nation for Hire?
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Written by user A.M. for Pakistan Defense Forums​

Pakistan’s history is littered with events where foreign Islamic nations have asked for assistance and this nation has answered the call every time. Over time such assistance has almost become a given as opposed to something that other nations should be thankful for. As the recent tension with Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates illustrates, it’s evident that we are now expected to provide soldiers for hire whenever there is a conflict in the Islamic world and especially in the Middle East. It doesn’t even matter if our help is necessary or not. Exacerbating the issue is the fact that certain factions within Pakistan promote such behavior as if this nation is responsible for the stupidity of others around the world.


One must ask, why Pakistan? Are we simply being used by others for their personal benefit? Why are some factions within Pakistan hell bent on involving us in conflicts that don’t concern us and offer no strategic benefit to us? The conflict involving Saudi Arabia and Yemen has brought this issue to the forefront and something that needs to be discussed using facts instead of religious emotion. Does Saudi Arabia actually need our help or, once again, is our assistance expected just because? One must also ask, where were these nations when Pakistan was in deep trouble a few years back?


In April, Pakistan’s Parliament voted unanimously in favor of the country’s neutrality in the ongoing conflict in Yemen. From an outside perspective, the decision made absolute sense. The country had a war raging in the North West, tensions rising along the eastern border with India and the western border with Iran and domestic operations going on in multiple provinces. It had zero capacity to get involved in another conflict, especially one with sectarian implications. Pakistan already has had issues containing sectarian violence at home and involving itself in a conflict which is essentially a manifestation of Sunni – Shia struggle between Saudi Arabia and Iran could have had disastrous results at home. Pakistan also shares a border with Shia dominant Iran while Saudi Arabia does not.


Another reason for the neutral stance was the Chinese – Pakistan Economic Corridor. China has executed agreements of over $40 Billion to connect the Chinese and Pakistani cities of Kashgar and Gwadar. The agreements include construction of several infrastructure projects including roads and railways between the two cities. A significant concern for the Chinese has been the law and order situation in Pakistan because, after all, if a nation is pouring billions of dollars into another country, it wants assurances that the investment will be safe in the long run. It is rumored that there was pressure from the Chinese to focus entirely on resolving the issues at home instead of sending soldiers to other countries.


On its face, the parliament’s decision was the right one. So why the uproar? Within hours, leaders from Saudi Arabia and its allies in the Middle East were condemning the vote privately and publicly. Pakistan was warned of having to pay a “heavy price” for its decision and was accused of turning its backs on allies. Within months, the prime minster from India was invited for a visit to UAE almost as if to teach Pakistan a lesson for misbehaving. The fact of the matter is that Saudi Arabia doesn’t need our assistance in this conflict or any other for that matter. It has a military budget that is five times larger than Pakistan’s, it is surrounded by friendly or weak nations, its military is equipped with the best hardware that money can buy, it routinely executes multi-billion dollar deals with western nations. As this article was being written, King Salman was in the U.S. to sign a $1 billion arms agreement. The kingdom already has enough friends to support its adventures in the Middle East, it doesn’t need another.


It’s high time that our government articulate a tough stance on this issue and make it clear, internally and externally, that Pakistan isn’t a nation for hire. Pakistan will get involved in foreign conflicts, but as a mediator, not aggressor. Pakistan will take a neutral stance on conflicts so it can solve them, not inflame them. Pakistan’s sons won’t give up their lives for someone else, their blood will only be spilled to protect this nation from its enemies. Pakistan should forge strategic relations with nations who invest in Pakistan, not countries who grant “friendly gifts” to sway the politicians in their favor. “Friendly nations” who won’t admonish logical decisions, but will support them.


This is a critical time for Pakistan and the focus should be at home so that this country can move forward and realize its true potential. Our primary concern should be the people of Pakistan and not Kings and Ministers of other nations. We are a proud nation and its time we start behaving like one.


@WebMaster @Horus @fatman17 @Serpentine @Oscar

Pakistan is NOT slave to many nations nor hiring them for little prices, let's focus our weak home in order to grow our economy to reach $1 Trillion ASAP than worrying Arab's feelings.


Two most importants points:

- One must also ask, where were these nations when Pakistan was in deep trouble a few years back?

- Pakistan’s sons won’t give up their lives for someone else, their blood will only be spilled to protect this nation from its enemies.

Just please read two points 450 times daily above, repeat it.

 

[GURU DUTT]

The question perhaps lies in what exactly do we owe the Arabs in terms of monetary debts, and their pull with the west. Their investments in the west ensure that they have quite a bit of diplomatic pull with them especially in the back channels.

but how does arabs having a diplomatic and economick levrage over west helps pakistan and its cause

 

[wiseone2]

Pakistan: A Nation for Hire?
​

Written by user A.M. for Pakistan Defense Forums​

Pakistan’s history is littered with events where foreign Islamic nations have asked for assistance and this nation has answered the call every time. Over time such assistance has almost become a given as opposed to something that other nations should be thankful for. As the recent tension with Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates illustrates, it’s evident that we are now expected to provide soldiers for hire whenever there is a conflict in the Islamic world and especially in the Middle East. It doesn’t even matter if our help is necessary or not. Exacerbating the issue is the fact that certain factions within Pakistan promote such behavior as if this nation is responsible for the stupidity of others around the world.


One must ask, why Pakistan? Are we simply being used by others for their personal benefit? Why are some factions within Pakistan hell bent on involving us in conflicts that don’t concern us and offer no strategic benefit to us? The conflict involving Saudi Arabia and Yemen has brought this issue to the forefront and something that needs to be discussed using facts instead of religious emotion. Does Saudi Arabia actually need our help or, once again, is our assistance expected just because? One must also ask, where were these nations when Pakistan was in deep trouble a few years back?


In April, Pakistan’s Parliament voted unanimously in favor of the country’s neutrality in the ongoing conflict in Yemen. From an outside perspective, the decision made absolute sense. The country had a war raging in the North West, tensions rising along the eastern border with India and the western border with Iran and domestic operations going on in multiple provinces. It had zero capacity to get involved in another conflict, especially one with sectarian implications. Pakistan already has had issues containing sectarian violence at home and involving itself in a conflict which is essentially a manifestation of Sunni – Shia struggle between Saudi Arabia and Iran could have had disastrous results at home. Pakistan also shares a border with Shia dominant Iran while Saudi Arabia does not.


Another reason for the neutral stance was the Chinese – Pakistan Economic Corridor. China has executed agreements of over $40 Billion to connect the Chinese and Pakistani cities of Kashgar and Gwadar. The agreements include construction of several infrastructure projects including roads and railways between the two cities. A significant concern for the Chinese has been the law and order situation in Pakistan because, after all, if a nation is pouring billions of dollars into another country, it wants assurances that the investment will be safe in the long run. It is rumored that there was pressure from the Chinese to focus entirely on resolving the issues at home instead of sending soldiers to other countries.


On its face, the parliament’s decision was the right one. So why the uproar? Within hours, leaders from Saudi Arabia and its allies in the Middle East were condemning the vote privately and publicly. Pakistan was warned of having to pay a “heavy price” for its decision and was accused of turning its backs on allies. Within months, the prime minster from India was invited for a visit to UAE almost as if to teach Pakistan a lesson for misbehaving. The fact of the matter is that Saudi Arabia doesn’t need our assistance in this conflict or any other for that matter. It has a military budget that is five times larger than Pakistan’s, it is surrounded by friendly or weak nations, its military is equipped with the best hardware that money can buy, it routinely executes multi-billion dollar deals with western nations. As this article was being written, King Salman was in the U.S. to sign a $1 billion arms agreement. The kingdom already has enough friends to support its adventures in the Middle East, it doesn’t need another.


It’s high time that our government articulate a tough stance on this issue and make it clear, internally and externally, that Pakistan isn’t a nation for hire. Pakistan will get involved in foreign conflicts, but as a mediator, not aggressor. Pakistan will take a neutral stance on conflicts so it can solve them, not inflame them. Pakistan’s sons won’t give up their lives for someone else, their blood will only be spilled to protect this nation from its enemies. Pakistan should forge strategic relations with nations who invest in Pakistan, not countries who grant “friendly gifts” to sway the politicians in their favor. “Friendly nations” who won’t admonish logical decisions, but will support them.


This is a critical time for Pakistan and the focus should be at home so that this country can move forward and realize its true potential. Our primary concern should be the people of Pakistan and not Kings and Ministers of other nations. We are a proud nation and its time we start behaving like one.


@WebMaster @Horus @fatman17 @Serpentine @Oscar

if you can afford there is nothing wrong getting involved in wars of third countries
make sure you get paid for your services

 

[Indus Falcon]

Hi A.M

This is an absolutely THIRD RATE POST----the poster has not looked into the history of warfare over the last 2000---3000 years----.

If the poster had taken some consideration and done some research---he would have found out that nations and tribes have helped and assisted other brethren nation over the years of the centuries---to help them protect their lands and resources from invading armies---and then in the process formed alliances to fight together and then later on joined together or were taken over by the stronger to form a larger and stronger nation.

That has been the natural course of action of the centuries---small tribes asking big tribes to help---peaceful tribes asking warring tribe to protect them---.

As an old man---I am really disappointed at the level of illiteracy and a lack of knowledge amongst the children of Pakistan---and it is a shame that they are proud of it----.

Aray hazrat, he is aiming for TTA, not "military analyst."

 

[MastanKhan]

Arya hazrat, he is aiming for TTA, not "military analyst."

Thank you----. Me and my screw ups----.

 

[Viper0011.]

Pakistan’s history is littered with events where foreign Islamic nations have asked for assistance and this nation has answered the call every time. As the recent tension with Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates illustrates, it’s evident that we are now expected to provide soldiers for hire whenever there is a conflict in the Islamic world and especially in the Middle East.

One must ask, why Pakistan? Are we simply being used by others for their personal benefit? Why are some factions within Pakistan hell bent on involving us in conflicts that don’t concern us and offer no strategic benefit to us?

In April, Pakistan’s Parliament voted unanimously in favor of the country’s neutrality in the ongoing conflict in Yemen. From an outside perspective, the decision made absolute sense.

Another reason for the neutral stance was the Chinese – Pakistan Economic Corridor. China has executed agreements of over $40 Billion to connect the Chinese and Pakistani cities of Kashgar and Gwadar. It is rumored that there was pressure from the Chinese to focus entirely on resolving the issues at home instead of sending soldiers to other countries.

On its face, the parliament’s decision was the right one. So why the uproar? Within hours, leaders from Saudi Arabia and its allies in the Middle East were condemning the vote privately and publicly. Pakistan was warned of having to pay a “heavy price” for its decision and was accused of turning its backs on allies.

It’s high time that our government articulate a tough stance on this issue and make it clear, internally and externally, that Pakistan isn’t a nation for hire. Pakistan will get involved in foreign conflicts, but as a mediator, not aggressor.

@WebMaster @Horus @fatman17 @Serpentine @Oscar

Your article is written very nicely. However, some of the questions brought up or points made, could've been negated by taking a look at the history, situation, reality years ago and the reality now. Just for starters:

I don't think the Arabs expect Pakistan to provide rent-an-army. If so was the case, the 1991 Iraq war would be fought between Pakistan and Iraq don't you think? So the answer is no. However, Pakistan had special relationships with the Saudi's (always have and probably will always have in the future too). There is a territorial integrity contract between the two. Now when you tell someone you'll defend them, AND you are historically a poor country, guess what? Perfect case for providing Pakistani with cash and getting some "help" meaning $$$$ out, help in.

Here is the biggest flaw that shows up here. Pakistanis do a LOT of things with the idea of "Muslim Ummah", these people in Saudia are putting a price on each Pakistani's head who might go to protect them. So who created the monster? Well, more than KSA, the blame goes to Pakistan. The Muslim ummah crap, was fed into Pakistanis heads by KSA's paid ímam doing sermons in the mosque near you, so it'll stick to people's head that don't look at your own country Pakistan, see your ummad, whether you are hungry without food or not!!!! Second, out of Pakistan's need for financial assistance, it never cared to outline a proper relationship so everyone's free to think its terms, and those could be anything in any mind.

On top of it, when you say no to Arabs, they don't like it. So of course you'd see a reaction to it, and add the fact that its Pakistan, they would sure as hell not like it. Hell, the UAE isn't happy with Gawader, they have serious opposition to Gawader through back channels. Some of the money that channels through RAW from Dubai, has more added to it from the UAE's leaders.

So a weak Pakistan means a slave state and a prosper Pakistan = how dare you think about being equal to us.

Moral of the story is, no one is going to help Pakistan if her nation doesn't want to help themselves. Its time that everyone pays taxes as that's the right thing to do, work hard, use the opportunity, support the system. If everyone came on here and wrote stuff about how they don't like so and so, due to their political differences, but still didn't pay taxes, your "allegiance" to your flag is unfortunately like this situation we are talking about with Arabs and Pakistan (lack of any real love).

So for the Pakistani, go get your country to be stronger, pay your dues and taxes, allow your government to gather so much in taxes that it can buy advance defense articles on her own, it wouldn't need anyone else, Pakistan would have her own brand and power. But when the nation leaves the country by itself, the country has to beg someone else's nation for that revenue that his own nation isn't paying through taxes, that is when other nations providing assistance, thinks they rule you.

A 1.5 trillion economy called Pakistan, with 500 4th gen jet and a nuclear power, do you think any of these Arab or non-Arab fools will have the balls or the audacity to call Pakistani labor what they call them today in the UAE? Do you think Paistanis would still go there? Hell, no!!! So get out of this situation, writings are being written for the past 70 years, but the action just started three years ago. Its the fire and the action that has to continue till Pakistan pounces the KSA and UAE down with her bigger economy, superior education and a better and mature world standing. That's when everyone knows who the DADDY is!!! But, the nation has to work hard and full-fill their needs. You can't be coming here showing people another way to derail the system, and then bitc*hing about bad Pakistani economy, begging for temporary money and all. The nation creates these embarrassing moments. And if the nation follows the system, the system creates opportunities for the nation, just like its doing as I write this. So support the system, pay your dues, tell others to pay taxes and love your country. These Saudi's and the UAE's will become part of the history. Pakistan has a LOT more potential then these guys!!

 

[beast89]

These arab monarchs only care about themselves. What have they done for their fellow arabs?

 

[Development C&P]

Nice Article！！！
Pak brother need to more develop the Economy and People's livelihood，To guarantee that the people share in the fruits of development！！！
NO more WAR！！！
Need more Build！！！
Rather than Damage！！！

 

[k_arura]

@A.M. First of all for your information, tag five people at a time, more than that won't get notification of your tag. Second good write up and best of luck for the competition. Third



My personal opinion is we cannot afford any Muslim states to avoid us or show unnecessary enmity for the time being, why tough stance and not play diplomatically, refuse and keep them happy at the same time?

Thats a realistic assessment

 

[Shamain]

I dont understand what uniqueness ur article is offering. More than half of it was recounting the events of current year relating to yemen issue, it was like iwas reading a news report packing all those news reports' summary in chronological order in an article, which definitely i am not interested in reading cuz many of us already follwed the news.

Now some creative part starts from where u start writing abt Uae inviting indan pm seemingly to teach pakistan a lesson and onwards.

Yes i do agree with ur pov. I wud hate to see our men losing their blood for foreign territories who wudnt shed a drop of blood for us. So the bottomline of it is on the spot.

But ur article isnt what one could call an analytical one. First major half was repeating the old news. Then in second half u share ur opinions - which is where you should have written in slightly more detail,done more analysis, and made it sound more impacting and convincing.
Like for instance u give an excuse that king salman has signed 1b dollars deal, but then many would question how it shud effect our decision to not join the conflict. Its a brotherly nation who has offered assistance to us on many points in the past. Well against that u need to add more points and counters.

Sorry but what u wrote was to get acceptance nods from many of us who already support these views without getting into detail (i support pakistans decision of staying away), but how is ur article going to convince those who think opposite to this , which is one of the aim of an analysis write-up.