PAK vs INDIA:Globalisation

[ebrahym]

Foreign affairs have always obsessed me and i did an extensive research on them including both of India and Pakistan. I realized Indians immense influence on the world but I strongly reject it can cause Pakistani isolation but point of my concern is that i have read many articles written by well-known and well-reputed Indian and many other foreign relation specialist, many believe that India can isolate us or by creating its immense influence on middle east and central Asia over power Pakistan and they are surrounding Pakistan by Naval bases in gulf and Military bases in central Asia. Should we be worried or whats Pakistani central Asian strategy apart from CPEC which is still far from completion and do we have a middle east policy ???? please comment all especially Indians and senior members. @django @Zibago @MastanKhan @HRK and i strongly think that PAK vs INDIA is no longer a bilateral and regional issue its effects are deep rooted.

 

[nair]

Foreign affairs have always obsessed me and i did an extensive research on them including both of India and Pakistan. I realized Indians immense influence on the world but I strongly reject it can cause Pakistani isolation but point of my concern is that i have read many articles written by well-known and well-reputed Indian and many other foreign relation specialist, many believe that India can isolate us or by creating its immense influence on middle east and central Asia over power Pakistan and they are surrounding Pakistan by Naval bases in gulf and Military bases in central Asia. Should we be worried or whats Pakistani central Asian strategy apart from CPEC which is still far from completion and do we have a middle east policy ???? please comment all especially Indians and senior members. @django @Zibago @MastanKhan @HRK and i strongly think that PAK vs INDIA is no longer a bilateral and regional issue its effects are deep rooted.

No country can isolate any country in this world......... Even North Korea has friends...... More over India is not that strong enough to isolate Pakistan, Yes it is strong enough to infuse significant damages if needed, As of now India is working on its economy, and Pakistan is working on eradicating terrorism and improving economy, both are busy with it.... Yes there will be small issues here and there will be attempts to malign each other, this is what we have been doing to each other for over 60 odd years...

 

[ebrahym]

No country can isolate any country in this world......... Even North Korea has friends...... More over India is not that strong enough to isolate Pakistan, Yes it is strong enough to infuse significant damages if needed, As of now India is working on its economy, and Pakistan is working on eradicating terrorism and improving economy, both are busy with it.... Yes there will be small issues here and there will be attempts to malign each other, this is what we have been doing to each other for over 60 odd years...

respect your opinion can you also elaborate the military bases in Tajikistan and naval base in Oman ??

respect your opinion can you also elaborate the military bases in Tajikistan and naval base in Oman ??

they cannot be part of economic strengthening ?

 

[nair]

respect your opinion can you also elaborate the military bases in Tajikistan and naval base in Oman ??


they cannot be part of economic strengthening ?

That is for strategic depth...... Those bases cannot isolate you in anyway.....

 

[Bharat_Bhakt]

respect your opinion can you also elaborate the military bases in Tajikistan and naval base in Oman ??


they cannot be part of economic strengthening ?

and how does it effects Pakistan and its international relations ?

Foreign affairs have always obsessed me and i did an extensive research on them including both of India and Pakistan. I realized Indians immense influence on the world but I strongly reject it can cause Pakistani isolation but point of my concern is that i have read many articles written by well-known and well-reputed Indian and many other foreign relation specialist, many believe that India can isolate us or by creating its immense influence on middle east and central Asia over power Pakistan and they are surrounding Pakistan by Naval bases in gulf and Military bases in central Asia. Should we be worried or whats Pakistani central Asian strategy apart from CPEC which is still far from completion and do we have a middle east policy ???? please comment all especially Indians and senior members. @django @Zibago @MastanKhan @HRK and i strongly think that PAK vs INDIA is no longer a bilateral and regional issue its effects are deep rooted.

Bottom line of international relations in current world order is to get maximum benefits with regarding to economy and trade and a chance to have some influence in UNO so no nation can bully your interests and the second principal is there are no permanent friends or enemies only thing permanent is mutually benefical terms/interests and the third principal is that its not like if you are my friend then you automatically become enemy of my enemy or if you are my enemy then all my friends become your enemy ... India knows this and has moved on and is still working on it but Pakistan is still stuck in 1971 and cold war era .

 

[ebrahym]

respect your opinion can you also elaborate the military bases in Tajikistan and naval base in Oman ??

they canot be part of economic strengthening ?

and how does it effects Pakistan and its international relations ?


Bottom line of international relations in current world order is to get maximum benefits with regarding to economy and trade and a chance to have some influence in UNO so no nation can bully your interests and the second principal is there are no permanent friends or enemies only thing permanent is mutually benefical terms/interests and the third principal is that its not like if you are my friend then you automatically become enemy of my enemy or if you are my enemy then all my friends become your enemy ... India knows this and has moved on and is still working on it but Pakistan is still stuck in 1971 and cold war era .

correction pakistan stuck in terrorism era and we have moved on if you thoroughly study current economic dynamics of pakistan economy

 

[Bharat_Bhakt]

they canot be part of economic strengthening ?

correction pakistan stuck in terrorism era and we have moved on if you thoroughly study current economic dynamics of pakistan economy

aah pakistan economy what about it thing is it is the main thing responsible for almost all problems pakistan faces today it is basically a horrible mish mash of feudalism and croonee capitalism with a very intoxicating dose of state level corruption which never lets anything good for the common consumer till it benefits the legacy feudal and industrial and political elite .

as for terrorism lesser said the better .

 

[ebrahym]

aah pakistan economy what about it thing is it is the main thing responsible for almost all problems pakistan faces today it is basically a horrible mish mash of feudalism and croonee capitalism with a very intoxicating dose of state level corruption which never lets anything good for the common consumer till it benefits the legacy feudal and industrial and political elite .

as for terrorism lesser said the better .

correction pakistan basically is a conservative socialist country and with a homegrown socialism philosophy and the dynamics of pak politics revolves around thirdway ..... as for economy it is largely capital and you are right about corruption but in current government dynamics are changing as for terrorism we have much to share with each other but avoiding unproductive and unnecessary arguments lesser said is better. and about socialism it is not felt in pakistan but if you study our political system you will see that one of pakistans biggest party which has been in power for several times is socialist and they have rose his agenda again in our politics but that our internal matter

 

[Hussain Farooqui]

The foreign policies of Bharati govt. have been far more intelligence based compared to those of Pakistan. We unnecessarily made Israel our enemy and thus attracted the unwanted hostility of the Western countries heavily influenced by the Jewish lobbies. Bharat on hand developed good relationship with Israel and on the other hand inducted influence in the Middle East with much more greater degree. Bharati citizens are enjoying much greater business and employment opportunities in the Middle East. Similarly, Bharat has very good relationships with the two Muslim neighboring of Pakistan namely Afghanistan and Iran.

We are very poor foreign policy makers. We badly need to improve ourselves in foreign policy making.

 

[Bharat_Bhakt]

correction pakistan basically is a conservative socialist country and with a homegrown socialism philosophy and the dynamics of pak politics revolves around thirdway ..... as for economy it is largely capital and you are right about corruption but in current government dynamics are changing as for terrorism we have much to share with each other but avoiding unproductive and unnecessary arguments lesser said is better

what socialism where one family of 10 controls land that provides for 1000 ? its not conservative socialism its feudalism have guts to call a spade a spade and even in capitalism there are some rules for fair play do you really think there are any in pakistan specially if you happen to have 'right political connections'

 

[ebrahym]

what socialism where one family of 10 controls land that provides for 1000 ? its not conservative socialism its feudalism have guts to call a spade a spade and even in capitalism there are some rules for fair play do you really think there are any in pakistan specially if you happen to have 'right political connections'

brother lets not get aggressive and i recommend you to read the article of pakistan or specifically pakistani politics on Wikipedia... and yes our political system has not some but many flaws that does not means you object its nature ..... take yours instead is that system angelic ???

The foreign policies of Bharati govt. have been far more intelligence based compared to those of Pakistan. We unnecessarily made Israel our enemy and thus attracted the unwanted hostility of the Western countries heavily influenced by the Jewish lobbies. Bharat on hand developed good relationship with Israel and on the other hand inducted influence in the Middle East with much more greater degree. Bharati citizens are enjoying much greater business and employment opportunities in the Middle East. Similarly, Bharat has very good relationships with the two Muslim neighboring of Pakistan namely Afghanistan and Iran.

We are very poor foreign policy makers. We badly need to improve ourselves in foreign policy making.

I do but not completely agree with you pakistan has had a significant influence on international politics but yes after 90s there were many flaws and i think that flaws still continue

 

[Bharat_Bhakt]

brother lets not get aggressive and i recommend you to read the article of pakistan or specifically pakistani politics on Wikipedia... and yes our political system has not some but many flaws that does not means you object its nature ..... take yours instead is that system angelic ???


I do but not completely agree with you pakistan has had a significant influence on international politics but yes after 90s there were many flaws and i think that flaws still continue

Ok bro sorry to bother you i rest my case and happy new year 2016

 

[ebrahym]

what socialism where one family of 10 controls land that provides for 1000 ? its not conservative socialism its feudalism have guts to call a spade a spade and even in capitalism there are some rules for fair play do you really think there are any in pakistan specially if you happen to have 'right political connections'

and just to prove your point to a rough estimate only 20 large political families of pakistan hold its 80 % wealth

Ok bro sorry to bother you i rest my case and happy new year 2016

i wish the new year allows me an opportunity to shake hands with you but do read these articles ..... hope to hear from you soon

 

[Jat Boy]

Pakistan is AND has been ITS OWN worst enemy for 70 YEARS plus...

Islamic extremism
Army control
double standards lying and cheating on allies like USA
ideology war of existence with india
poor leaders
poor education
limited resources wasted on arms
Pakistani attitude beg borrow steal from who we can especially friends.


ITS A VERY BAD VERY POOR IMAGE OF PAKISTANI and its PEOPLE.

And yes INDIA has exploited your mess BRILLIANTLY to LEAP A HEAD

 

[Grevion]

Foreign affairs have always obsessed me and i did an extensive research on them including both of India and Pakistan. I realized Indians immense influence on the world but I strongly reject it can cause Pakistani isolation but point of my concern is that i have read many articles written by well-known and well-reputed Indian and many other foreign relation specialist, many believe that India can isolate us or by creating its immense influence on middle east and central Asia over power Pakistan and they are surrounding Pakistan by Naval bases in gulf and Military bases in central Asia. Should we be worried or whats Pakistani central Asian strategy apart from CPEC which is still far from completion and do we have a middle east policy ???? please comment all especially Indians and senior members. @django @Zibago @MastanKhan @HRK and i strongly think that PAK vs INDIA is no longer a bilateral and regional issue its effects are deep rooted.

No country can totally isolate it's enemy country in a mulitipolar world. A country has global influence if they have a strong economy, a strong armed forces, technological advances. Since India leads Pakistan in all of these three fields hence it has more influence in the world then Pakistan. Religious commonalty is another way of having influence over other countries. like Pakistan with Arab and middle east countries but it can cause troubles too like with Iran and Afghanistan.