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Pak-Sino relations and its impact on Pakistans reputation in the Muslim world

Pakistan has been also indirectly complicit in deaths of million Muslim Afghan during the Taliban rule and militancy. The 200 million Muslim Pakistanis face mortal danger from India which takes precedence in our policies
Hi,
Again B.S.
instead we hosted 3 mn ungrateful Afghanis ever since protected their sorry bum from Soviet invasion and when our ancestor went to seek help from Afghanis during british era, we were not only refused but forced out
 
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This should just give you the scale of China Pak bilateral relations
China commits $6.5 billion for nuclear project in Pakistan - The Express Tribune

EXIM Bank China to provide US $ 448 million for Neelum Jhelum Project | Pakistan Press International

China commits $45.6 billion for economic corridor with Pakistan - The Express Tribune

http://www.thenewstribe.com/2014/11/22/paf-is-procuring-chinese-stealth-fighter-fc-31/

Hi,
Again B.S.
instead we hosted 3 mn ungrateful Afghanis ever since protected their sorry bum from Soviet invasion and when our ancestor went to seek help from Afghanis during british era, we were not only refused but forced out
5 Million
 
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we hosted 3 mn ungrateful Afghanis ever since protected their sorry bum from Soviet invasion and when our ancestor went to seek help from Afghanis during british era, we were not only refused but forced out

Yes we hosted 3-5 Afghan refugees. Yes we caused deaths of nearly 1 million Afghans. Yes Afghans refused to host 100 million Muslims from British Raj during 1920s. Afghanistan is a mountainous country and even after 100 years Afghan popluation has not reached 100 million. It was not practical.
 
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Yes we hosted 3-5 Afghan refugees. Yes we caused deaths of nearly 1 million Afghans. Yes Afghans refused to host 100 million Muslims from British Raj during 1920s. Afghanistan is a mountainous country and even after 100 years Afghan popluation has not reached 100 million. It was not practical.
HI,

Dont say We ! you aint We, So.

Practical or not. It was all about assisting the muslim brethren which you people failed to.

And do tell how 'WE" caused the death of all those naswaris, extremists, bacbabazi mentality losers.

It was only after accepting you lot the culture of Kalashnikov was introduced in Pakistan
 
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Stick to issues instead of insults
Hi,

Ouch, I just passed few titles.

Anyways, Apologies for calling your brethren as such.
But how about we stick to the topic and you take your crying back to afghanistan when you ever intend to visit it.
(if ever you will, which I highly doubt)
 
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The title says it all. It's a matter of fact: the overwhelming majority of Muslims worldwide do not sympathize with China. The country, the culture, the language, its traditions, its foreign and domestic policy - simply everything that is related to Chinese state or its society is unpopular.

What are the reasons behind this rejection?

Main reason for this negative attitude towards China lies in the fact that the Chinese one-party government suppresses innocent Muslims. Everybody recognises that the ethnic Uygurs in East Turkestan are still being persecuted.

From Balkan and Anatolia to Central Asia, the Turkic people don't tolerate Chinese. Even if the political elites of the Turkic states negotiate with China, the common people whether Shiite or Sunni do not like the Chinese nation. It would be quite mistaken to believe that this view of China is a "Turkish thing".

The majority of Sunni Arabs share the same opinion. China acts as a supporter of Russia and Assad. In the eyes of the Sunni Arabs, the Syrian crisis is to a large extent the co-responsibility of Russia's and Chinas's irresponsible and crazy Middle East policies.

Not only Arabs and Turks have their problems with the Chinese. Chinese ships violating the maritime sovereignty of Malaysia. Muslim majority countries in Southeast Asia like Indonesia and Brunei also criticize China’s claim on South China Sea.

The only Muslim state that currently has a very good relationship with China is Pakistan. What consequences will this have for the reputation of Pakistan in the Muslim world? The Indian government under Modi is not as stupid as we always believe. They will try to use these different positions for their own goals. It's just a matter of time before India on the one side and Turkey, Indonesia and Saudi Arabia on the other side begin to cooperate.

The United Arab Emirates have already begun closer cooperation with India.

What you guys think about this topic?


(Sorry for my bad English)










The tide of good fortune is pushing China to new heights - this is the reality as it was for other nations in the past. Turkey can't ignore this. We need to put our best diplomatic skills into play. One good thing President Erdogan, while in Istabul, will stay in Yildiz Saray, which was the palace of Sultan Abdul Hamid (may Allah be pleased with him) - the grand master in geo politics and diplomacy.

As for Uighur Turks, we can't change their situation right away. It needs to come from within China itself. I believe as China gets more integrated and building its own sphere of inluence, this positive change will come. Hasn't the USA changed? Is China during Mao's time same as present China? The more complex the system the slower the response time. We need to be patient. China Pakistan corridor is the right step in this direction. China, Pakistan, Turkey, Russia are all stuck in this great landmass called Eurasia which built the civilizations.

I see some Chineese folks are vehemently out for Russia for fiasco in Syria. This is normal. When dust settles down and Russia's cost outweighs benefits by unbearable margins in Syria, everybody will try to forget this moment ASAP - the Afghanistan syndrome. Today Pak and Russia are good friends. For the worldly, success has many fathers, failure is orphan.

Therefore, let's be gloriously patient and let events take their natural paths before firing all of our shots!?!
 
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Hi,

Kindly what Muslims countries are there ? or those who have actually helped the Ummah ?

We bleed alone, we fight alone and there is no way we would give priority to anyone over China or vice versa in case of Turkey. A balance where our interests meets will always be maintained
 
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It doesn't matter what other Muslim nations think. China is our neighbour and our friend and it has proven it! It proved it when obl was found in pakistan and the world was screaming and it was china that stood that said they would not stand any attack k on our territorial integrity and the world quitened. When we had went through the most horror five years of our history, broken economy and weakened image it was china that offered cpec and we say increase in our economy and nations are willing to invest in us again. In all this story the Muslim ummah is nowhere. In fact when we said no to Yemen war uae threatened us and started x
Cozying with India do you know why? BCZ THATS WHAT FORIEGN POLICIES ARE. SELFISH IN NATURE.

Our relationship with china has nothing to do with turkey. They are two separate things just like turkeys relations with Israel and USA ( the nation that destroyed Muslim countries ) have nothing to do with the Muslim world. Simple.

However never going to happen but if we were to chose between turkey and China then it would and should be china with of course playing the mediator role in bringing nations together bcz not only its a neighbour but a standing ally and a rising super power. However its never ever going to happen.

If there is any problem between pakistan and India do you know who Iran a Muslim country will side with? India bcz india was there when they needed them. India traded with them oil and gas when we followed sanctions... Iran would side with india while trying to play a mediator role.

Anyway you seriously have no idea about china if you feel they will ask that. China as a nation has always focused on the policy of power through trade and relations... USA is its biggest rival and its a huge trading partner and china doesn't just cut relations... Even with India it has cordial relations and trades with them. China will never cut a country off and will try to bring and exert control through trade. Its one of the main reasons that in many points in history china will be found as a recurring power always rising after falling. Their general and natural policy allows them this.

Anyhow this question wasn't even in our minds which shows how unrealistic it is... Currently the sentiments about china in Pakistan are heavily heavily positive.
 
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The title says it all. It's a matter of fact: the overwhelming majority of Muslims worldwide do not sympathize with China. The country, the culture, the language, its traditions, its foreign and domestic policy - simply everything that is related to Chinese state or its society is unpopular.

What are the reasons behind this rejection?

Main reason for this negative attitude towards China lies in the fact that the Chinese one-party government suppresses innocent Muslims. Everybody recognises that the ethnic Uygurs in East Turkestan are still being persecuted.

From Balkan and Anatolia to Central Asia, the Turkic people don't tolerate Chinese. Even if the political elites of the Turkic states negotiate with China, the common people whether Shiite or Sunni do not like the Chinese nation. It would be quite mistaken to believe that this view of China is a "Turkish thing".

The majority of Sunni Arabs share the same opinion. China acts as a supporter of Russia and Assad. In the eyes of the Sunni Arabs, the Syrian crisis is to a large extent the co-responsibility of Russia's and Chinas's irresponsible and crazy Middle East policies.

Not only Arabs and Turks have their problems with the Chinese. Chinese ships violating the maritime sovereignty of Malaysia. Muslim majority countries in Southeast Asia like Indonesia and Brunei also criticize China’s claim on South China Sea.

The only Muslim state that currently has a very good relationship with China is Pakistan. What consequences will this have for the reputation of Pakistan in the Muslim world? The Indian government under Modi is not as stupid as we always believe. They will try to use these different positions for their own goals. It's just a matter of time before India on the one side and Turkey, Indonesia and Saudi Arabia on the other side begin to cooperate.

The United Arab Emirates have already begun closer cooperation with India.

What you guys think about this topic?


(Sorry for my bad English)










A lot of Pakistani don't think good of west either.The fact is Pak-Sino relations are highs as ever and its a win win for both countries.I am sensing that western countries are realizing that its time to test Pak-China relationship again
 
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